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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2006, 10:44:45 AM »
Scary how much attention the PDI gets of yours. 

Isn't Kevin an established member of the bodybuilding media? 

As such, doesn't he have an obligation to ask these questions?

You can't be upset with members of the media for seeking truth. 

 

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2006, 11:02:01 AM »
Horton, the show isn't cancelled, man.
I build and maintain many sites, the pdiradio site among them.  I don't memorize every show, and i misspoke on that one.  I admitted that.  I have 10,000 things in my head, and I forgot about the amateur shows, focusing on the pro sites I do. 

You're kind of a poor argument here.  I know you've only arrived to kiss up to your IFBB handlers, and that is sad for you man.  You make up the cancellation, then freak out that a few of the supporters here on the board don't have hotel info for you yet.  If you want to know, email Wayne.  He is the promoter.  I am not the "PDI VOICE" as you said.  I am setting up a radio station and I build sites. 

Scary how much attention the PDI gets of yours.  Good thing the IFBB isn't worried ;)

Thanks for the update that the show isn't cancelled - any further details available at the moment?

I didn't make up anything. I just asked if it had been cancelled. You then jumped in with your usual unfounded allegations:
"Horton, making up shows, then cancelling them, is a weak approach to debate.
"Please show me in the press releases where the Vegas show is scheduled."

Now we have your pathetic attempt to deflect away from the fact that you were OWNED, by now accusing me of being a "kiss up to your IFBB handlers". You really are becoming transparent.
But then again you are a master of deflection as it's your only defence apart from making idle threats to do people physical damage, or threatening to damage peoples relationships.

You are far too modest about your relationship with the PDI. Almost every post you start is an announcement of some sort. If Wayne has not given you the official title yet, you are doing a fantastic job of ass licking your way into the job.

Looking forward to hearing your first broadcast.


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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2006, 11:06:29 AM »
Is it true that if an IFBB pro competes in the PDI he/she will be banned from the IFBB???

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2006, 11:17:08 AM »
Is it true that if an IFBB pro competes in the PDI he/she will be banned from the IFBB???

Banned? Probably not.

F*ked for life in placings if they try? Most likely.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2006, 11:17:34 AM »
Is it true that if an IFBB pro competes in the PDI he/she will be banned from the IFBB???

Depends on who it is, I'd imagine.  ;)

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2006, 11:20:57 AM »
Depends on who it is, I'd imagine.  ;)

You think they would be more or less likely to let Priest come whimpering back?

On the one hand, he definitely puts asses in seats. On the other hand, he's seldom passed up an opportunity to break the IFBB's balls when got a chance.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2006, 11:25:54 AM »
Is it true that if an IFBB pro competes in the PDI he/she will be banned from the IFBB???

Yes, as per the contract that every athlete signed when renewing their IFBB card...

If a IFBB athlete competes on a NON-IFBB show...they will be suspended indefinitely.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2006, 11:29:42 AM »
Yes, as per the contract that every athlete signed when renewing their IFBB card...

If a IFBB athlete competes on a NON-IFBB show...they will be suspended indefinitely.

Tx for the info, Bob.

But of course "suspended indefinitely" is carefully crafted legal-weasel wording that can be used to really shut someone out for life or let them back on El Supremo's whim.

Just what you'd expect from the IFBB, eh?

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2006, 12:17:40 PM »
Isn't Kevin an established member of the bodybuilding media? 

As such, doesn't he have an obligation to ask these questions?

You can't be upset with members of the media for seeking truth. 

 

Exactly, so why doesn't he simply ask Wayne himself and put what he say on hear.  You say he is a member of the media and he is suppose to know how things work.  Isn't it strange with all his experince he would know better than to ask this crap on here, when he can easily call or email Wayne.  Wayne is very very easily accessible.  Kevin has said he has talked to Wayne numerous times before.  Well call him now.  Unlike Manion who you can't talk too at least Wayne is up front and available to answer questions.  Just call him.  Do you need a dime or something.  Quit asking for answers from myself or 240 if you don't believe them or think we are making them up.  Call Wayne and type what he says.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2006, 12:19:50 PM »
Yes, as per the contract that every athlete signed when renewing their IFBB card...

If a IFBB athlete competes on a NON-IFBB show...they will be suspended indefinitely.

Thankfully, you're working to get that 'rule' eliminated. 

The other pro men should be behind you on this, no questions asked. 

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2006, 12:20:59 PM »
You think they would be more or less likely to let Priest come whimpering back?

On the one hand, he definitely puts asses in seats. On the other hand, he's seldom passed up an opportunity to break the IFBB's balls when got a chance.

Well any IFBB pro that signs with the PDI is obviously sick and tired of the way the IFBB is run in the first place and probably doesn't care to go back.  Why would they.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2006, 12:21:19 PM »
The other pro men should be behind you on this, no questions asked. 

You have heard that steroid use decreases testicle size, yes?

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2006, 12:22:09 PM »
You think they would be more or less likely to let Priest come whimpering back?

On the one hand, he definitely puts asses in seats. On the other hand, he's seldom passed up an opportunity to break the IFBB's balls when got a chance.

Lee is great for business, no question about it.  

Ego is a large part of the game at the top levels of this business, but money still rules the day.  

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2006, 12:22:56 PM »
Well any IFBB pro that signs with the PDI is obviously sick and tired of the way the IFBB is run in the first place and probably doesn't care to go back.  Why would they.

Your question assumes that the PDI becomes and remains a viable alternative.

That's a big brass assumption there.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2006, 12:25:34 PM »
Thankfully, you're working to get that 'rule' eliminated. 

The other pro men should be behind you on this, no questions asked. 

That is true.  That rule is basically stupid and worthless.  It puts a stranglehold on the competitors and just shows how the IFBB wants to be 100% in control of how a competitors is allowed to make money.  I find it amazing any IFBBpro would go along with this rule since the IFBB does not employ any of them nor do they pay them any money.  So why have someone like this control how you can make money.  And if a competitor doesn't get paid or the check bounces the IFBB doesn't even get involved to rectify the problem.  WHy let them control what you do to make money.  ISn't there a rule about not guest posing at non-NPC or IFBB related events too.  That is as dumb if not dumber.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2006, 12:26:30 PM »
Your question assumes that the PDI becomes and remains a viable alternative.

That's a big brass assumption there.

Yes it does but I am willing to stick it out and see.  I am looking for the positive outcome always. 

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2006, 01:13:02 PM »
Your question assumes that the PDI becomes and remains a viable alternative.

That's a big brass assumption there.

I'm going to have to agree with you.

I think that Wayne has a legitimate 5-year plan in place (I have not spoken with him directly about this, however), but as of right now, I don't see that 6th year as being anything close to a certainty. 

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2006, 01:16:45 PM »
That is true.  That rule is basically stupid and worthless.  It puts a stranglehold on the competitors and just shows how the IFBB wants to be 100% in control of how a competitors is allowed to make money.  I find it amazing any IFBBpro would go along with this rule since the IFBB does not employ any of them nor do they pay them any money.  So why have someone like this control how you can make money.  And if a competitor doesn't get paid or the check bounces the IFBB doesn't even get involved to rectify the problem.  WHy let them control what you do to make money.  ISn't there a rule about not guest posing at non-NPC or IFBB related events too.  That is as dumb if not dumber.

Yeah, apparently, such a 'rule' exists about the guest posings, autograph signings, seminars, etc., but they don't have any teeth and certainly would not stand up to scrutiny if challenged. 

It's been over a year since I last read the athletes' application for IFBB pro card renewal, but at the time of that reading, there was no language which attempted to set things up as a non-compete arrangement.  And even if they (the IFBB) tried to do so, I'm willing to bet they'd fail. 

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2006, 01:32:02 PM »
Exactly, so why doesn't he simply ask Wayne himself and put what he say on hear.  You say he is a member of the media and he is suppose to know how things work.  Isn't it strange with all his experince he would know better than to ask this crap on here, when he can easily call or email Wayne.  Wayne is very very easily accessible.  Kevin has said he has talked to Wayne numerous times before.  Well call him now.  Unlike Manion who you can't talk too at least Wayne is up front and available to answer questions.  Just call him.  Do you need a dime or something.  Quit asking for answers from myself or 240 if you don't believe them or think we are making them up.  Call Wayne and type what he says.

This is an open forum so I guess it's ok to ask questions? Or is only for suck ups like you to keep your man happy?
At least I'm only asking questions, unlike yourself who uses every thread to vent your angst against everyone other than your hero.

Wayne has a standard answer to everything:

"We are doing things at our pace, our way, to insure success. Time will prove us right. I know everyone wants to know everything now, but we are doing everything according to our plan and to this point, our plan is working perfectly."

So we are now 12 weeks away from a qualiifying show, yet nobody can find out any details about it, not even your buddy 240. If it was an IFBB show, you'd be running your mouth off at 100mph.
I've only asked if it has been cancelled, unlike you who spent a considerable part of your life trying to undermine Shawns efforts with the Colorado show. Considering you failed dismaly with your show, it must have really upset you when you head it was a SUCCESS!!!!!!

How's your friend doing with the hair?







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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2006, 01:46:24 PM »
Wayne has a standard answer to everything:

"We are doing things at our pace, our way, to insure success. Time will prove us right. I know everyone wants to know everything now, but we are doing everything according to our plan and to this point, our plan is working perfectly."

Sounds like Bush talking about spying on domestic phone calls.

Creepy.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2006, 03:28:14 PM »
Blackballed! :P
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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2006, 03:33:39 PM »
Yes, as per the contract that every athlete signed when renewing their IFBB card...

If a IFBB athlete competes on a NON-IFBB show...they will be suspended indefinitely.

Well i guess it all comes down to a financial aspect. IFBB wants to run a monopoly on bodybuilding.

I feel that the PDI would be a good way for many pros to make some good money for once. I mean its the same guys dominating the top 5 and the rest leave with nothing. Perhaps with the PDI it could open some doors for people.

Then again from what im seeing PDI doesnt seem all that reliable.

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2006, 07:00:42 PM »

And as Athlete's Rep, you support this??  :o


Monster looking out for the athletes' interests!  ::)

I didn't give my opinion on the matter...a question was asked, an answer was given.

Monster "can't comprehend what I read"...

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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2006, 07:04:40 PM »
Yes, as per the contract that every athlete signed when renewing their IFBB card...

If a IFBB athlete competes on a NON-IFBB show...they will be suspended indefinitely.

Wow...thats kind of drastic....don't you think Bob?


Do you see this happen in any other kind of Professional Event?



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Re: PDI Vegas Show - Cancelled?
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2006, 07:07:05 PM »

And as Athlete's Rep, you support this??  :o


Monster looking out for the athletes' interests!  ::)

I didn't give my opinion on the matter...a question was asked, an answer was given.

Monster "can't comprehend what I read"...

Looks like a question was asked here Bob....but reading your response....I don't see an answer.