Flex Wheeler: "Bob Shouldn't Have Won"

[benchmstr]

Theres a good reason Flex is a photographer and not a judge...

I do however, find it ironic that Flex of all people, thinks I skated by on my proportion, symmetry despite being soft in the glutes/ hams..... Hmmmmm...sounds familiar!

wow chick do you always try this hard to make people hate you.Everyone saw the pictures of your Christmas that came early so why don't you face it and admit it was a gift

[240 is Back]

Chick is to Flex, as Shawn Ray is to Ali.

[gibberj2]

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[Naked4Jesus]

Flex Wheeler was an incredible bodybuilder but is definately not playing with a full deck which to me undermines his credibility.   If someone more balanced made those statements I'd give it more thought but good old Flex spends too much time fighting ninjas to earn my respect.  Carry on...

[bigdumbbell]

Theres a good reason Flex is a photographer and not a judge...

I do however, find it ironic that Flex of all people, thinks I skated by on my proportion, symmetry despite being soft in the glutes/ hams..... Hmmmmm...sounds familiar!

with all do respect bob chick your suggestion that it takes education to be a IFBB bodybuilding judge cant be serious.  IFBB judging is a joke.  an IFBB promoter in one town is the next town's IFBB
judge.  talk about a circus sideshow.  thanks ron for providing this filter of anonymity.

[UK Gold]

Flex is a joke. Despite the implants, synthol and gallons of gear he took throughout his 'career' he never had the heart or balls needed to win the big one.

Then theres Dorian: fit and healthy with a very successful supplement company. Ha ha ha, Dorian is the king

[DEFCON]

That's like saying Cutler doesn't have the heart or balls to with the big one.

[BallzDeep69]

what year?

Flex def. owned Ronnie in 99'.

[UK Gold]

Flex had all the tools to BEAT Dorian - his genetics, as have oft been stated, were awesome! Even Dorian admits that he'd have been in trouble if Flex had worked harder. Instead he trained like a little girl and wasted his incredible potential. Its a genuine shame because he could have been the best ever.

Jay and Ronnie work as hard as each other, no one can deny this. Both guys are fantastic bodybuilders, but Ronnies mutant genetics are just to much for Jay [unless Ronnie is really, really off - 2001].

[NotMrAverage]

When they both turn their backs it was GAMEOVER. 99 was one of Ronnie's best ever. Def the hardest!

And at Masters world....Bob got the elevator and the rest got the shaft. And education to be an ifbb judge? Please, it takes 2 seconds of looking at a lineup and my 5 year old kid could pick the winner.

[ether]

Chick did enough to win that show, he looked good enough, it was a VERY weak lineup.

The only thing that anyone could complain about is the placings after Chick, i.e. Jeffers, Pavol higher and Groulx, Stewart Lower.

But, in the end, who the hell cares....before the posting started on these boards, the only bber I had even heard of in this show is Pavol (and yes, that includes BOB).

By the way, congratulations on not having the balls to go on the olympia stage.

Can we assume you will only be competing against "masters level competition".

[Stavios]

Chick, I think you take comments way too personal.

Flex said what he tought of your physique that particular day and a lot of people seems to think the same way.

Personnally I think you deserved the win but I saw you way harder in the past

[ieffinhatecardio]

Bob, glad I got to meet you this weekend! How did you like the Southern Classic?

Yeah, Chick was the clear winner. Tool.

[OneMoreRep]

The main problem with the show was that Rusty was overlooked.  Did Bob deserve to win?  That's arguable, but he wasn't far from being the clear cut winner if it came down to it being close.  Should have Rusty been in 2nd place or taken the show?  Second place should have gone to Rusty if Bob won, but, really, it could have gone both ways.

[ieffinhatecardio]

The main problem with the show was that Rusty was overlooked.  Did Bob deserve to win?  That's arguable, but he wasn't far from being the clear cut winner if it came down to it being close.  Should have Rusty been in 2nd place or taken the show?  Second place should have gone to Rusty if Bob won, but, really, it could have gone both ways.

Stop applying logic. The show was designed and concieved to give Chick a win. The contestants were weak by design accept for Jeffers.

The biggest mistake the powers that be made was allowing Jeffers to compete. If he was never there then none of us would be talking about this because the only controversy would have been the creation of the show in the first place.

They screwed up by letting him compete, never comparing him to Chick and by so badly overlooking him.

[LLES]

Rusty is beating Bob in those poses, I'd like to see them from the back though just to be fair, but from the looks of Bob's hams he was definately soft. I hate to say this again,but would the outcome been different if Bob wasn't the the "Athlete's Rep"?

[ieffinhatecardio]

Rusty is beating Bob in those poses, I'd like to see them from the back though just to be fair, but from the looks of Bob's hams he was definately soft. I hate to say this again,but would the outcome been different if Bob wasn't the the "Athlete's Rep"?

There wouldn't have been an outcome because the show wouldn't have existed.

[OneMoreRep]

Stop applying logic. The show was designed and concieved to give Chick a win. The contestants were weak by design accept for Jeffers.

The biggest mistake the powers that be made was allowing Jeffers to compete. If he was never there then none of us would be talking about this because the only controversy would have been the creation of the show in the first place.

They screwed up by letting him compete, never comparing him to Chick and by so badly overlooking him.

I was at the show and really it could have gone both ways.  The crowd was literally split in half.  I thought Rusty should have won, but to say that Bob wouldn't have placed 2nd afterwards, would also be wrong and vice versa.

[bigdumbbell]

I was at the show and really it could have gone both ways.  The crowd was literally split in half.  I thought Rusty should have won, but to say that Bob wouldn't have placed 2nd afterwards, would also be wrong and vice versa.

i was there, bob won but it was a set-up for paying his dues.  whoever invited rusty made a big boo-boo

[240 is Back]

Bob did not win every pose of every round.

That is what the judges gave him.

Many here agree he was probably the best overall guy - BUT - the gift of straight 1's - even in muscularity (Pavol) and posing (Jeffers) - cast a shadow of doubt on it. 

[ieffinhatecardio]

Many here agree he was probably the best overall guy

I don't, he was the overall second best guy. The best guy that night astonishingly placed 8th. What a joke.

[240 is Back]

I don't, he was the overall second best guy. The best guy that night astonishingly placed 8th. What a joke.

Much the same way that Phil Heath didn't lose a single round at the COlorado Pro- straight 1's in everything, every round.  They really decide who is the winner early one, and the judging/posing/comparisons don't mean anything.  The winner gets straight 1's, and they spread out the numbers to rank 2-10. 

It's hard to be perfect in any sport- with BBing, it's very rare that one man has the most mass, best aesthetics, best shape, beats every other competitors in every pose, and is the best poser, ALL on the same night.  He's gonna get edged somewhere.  Giving a guy straight 1's really makes the judging look shady.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Much the same way that Phil Heath didn't lose a single round at the COlorado Pro- straight 1's in everything, every round.  They really decide who is the winner early one, and the judging/posing/comparisons don't mean anything.  The winner gets straight 1's, and they spread out the numbers to rank 2-10. 

It's hard to be perfect in any sport- with BBing, it's very rare that one man has the most mass, best aesthetics, best shape, beats every other competitors in every pose, and is the best poser, ALL on the same night.  He's gonna get edged somewhere.  Giving a guy straight 1's really makes the judging look shady.

In the past boxing judges used to sit atop the corruption mountain. They were the undisputed kings of fixing a contest. Bodybuilding judges have eclipses even boxing judges.

How can anyone take a contest seriously when perfect 1's are given across the board to Bob Chick?

Seriously, how the hell do they expect their decisions to mean anything or even hold the slightest bit of validity?

[toolarge4u]

The irony of Flex (who won more shows based on the same things pro/con) calling the kettle black....

please dont ever compare yourself to flex again, thats like comparing william hung to michael jackson

[240 is Back]

please dont ever compare yourself to flex again, thats like comparing william hung to michael jackson

Are you saying Chick is hung like Michael Jackson?