Flex Wheeler: "Bob Shouldn't Have Won"

[240 is Back]

You mean the video that focused almost solely on you? You mean the video without one comparison shot between you and Jeffers? You mean the video that was so biased towards you that in reality the camera operators would have been more honest if they didn't even shoot anyone else and just focused on you instead.

You mean that video?

Brutally accurate analysis.  remember the full body pan on bob during the final posedown haha... it took like 15 seconds. 

Oh, and the 180 straight seconds of 'Bob, hand on hips', as he waited to get onstage.

[Armageddon]

I didn’t attend the show, but I always had a feeling that if bob would win any show he will get criticized cause he is the athletes rep.

That’s called conflict of interest.
   

[ieffinhatecardio]

I didn’t attend the show, but I always had a feeling that if bob would win any show he will get criticized cause he is the athletes rep.

That’s called conflict of interest.
   

And this is called not winning the contest.

[nzmusclemonster]

On a serious note, if you really think those two pictures show Bob owning Jeffers and that it's really not even close than you simply have no idea what your looking at.

There's a reason Chick keeps telling everyone to not pay attention to the pictures and to view the video.

Because Jeffers is far better.

i think you just need a bit of education..... look at the side chest shots, bob is hitting it how it should be done, tall and proud showing off the full development of the chest.... rusty i hunching over and leaning into it because his upper chest is lacking and he knows this so he wants to try and put more emphasis on his lower chest and deltoid. and the side tricep bob is owning as well.... look at his size and vascularity, is muscle bellies are much fuller than rustys... i hope this has been helpful for you.

[ribonucleic]

Give Bob traps, tris, and maybe calves - none by much. Jeffers takes delts, pecs, abs, bis, quads, and hams. [Plus style points for the G. Gordon Liddy mustache.]

Jeffers wins.

[bigdumbbell]

i think you just need a bit of education..... look at the side chest shots, bob is hitting it how it should be done, tall and proud showing off the full development of the chest.... rusty i hunching over and leaning into it because his upper chest is lacking and he knows this so he wants to try and put more emphasis on his lower chest and deltoid. and the side tricep bob is owning as well.... look at his size and vascularity, is muscle bellies are much fuller than rustys... i hope this has been helpful for you.

oh pleeze i was there   u dont no wtf u r talking about

[nzmusclemonster]

in the nose bleed section?

[ieffinhatecardio]

i hope this has been helpful for you.

It helped me see you're even more clueless than I originally thought.

Yikes, how many times did you have to take your driver's license test before you passed it?

[WOOO]

Theres a good reason Flex is a photographer and not a judge...

I do however, find it ironic that Flex of all people, thinks I skated by on my proportion, symmetry despite being soft in the glutes/ hams..... Hmmmmm...sounds familiar!

bob





you lost that show

[nzmusclemonster]

It helped me see you're even more clueless than I originally thought.

Yikes, how many times did you have to take your driver's license test before you passed it?

see the funny thing is that you guys are saying im an idiot, but tell me how what i posted is wrong.... all you can come up with is these silly one liners.

[ieffinhatecardio]

see the funny thing is that you guys are saying im an idiot, but tell me how what i posted is wrong.... all you can come up with is these silly one liners.

We all come up with silly one liners because the difference is so incredibly obvious that either you're joking in saying Chick owned Jeffers or you're utterly clueless.

Chick doesn't even want anyone looking at the pictures, he wants people watching the video. Do you know why? Come on, you can do it. Think, think.

Ok, I'll tell you. It's because Jeffers is easily beating him in the pictures and because the video focuses almost solely on him. There's no way to compare Chick and Jeffers watching the video because of the way it was shot but there is when comparing pictures.

Chickophants such as yourself either aren't clever enough to know what you're looking at or are just playing a game when you defend, either way you look bad.

[nzmusclemonster]

We all come up with silly one liners because the difference is so incredibly obvious that either you're joking in saying Chick owned Jeffers or you're utterly clueless.

Chick doesn't even want anyone looking at the pictures, he wants people watching the video. Do you know why? Come on, you can do it. Think, think.

Ok, I'll tell you. It's because Jeffers is easily beating him in the pictures and because the video focuses almost solely on him. There's no way to compare Chick and Jeffers watching the video because of the way it was shot but there is when comparing pictures.

Chickophants such as yourself either aren't clever enough to know what you're looking at or are just playing a game when you defend, either way you look bad.

your still presenting a very empty arguement.... short of facts and virtually no analytical comments. you say rusty should have one because "he was better". weak. i commented on those photos pin-pointng individual bodyparts, commented on the flaws in the way rusty was hitting the pose etc etc. monster playground logic on your behalf.

[hifrommike]

There were probably some contests Bob should have won & didn't, so what's the big deal?  Rusty was  judged 8th, rather oddly, but he isn't the only one who brought his best to the show.  Bodybuilding judging is subjective, & if Chick got a pass on this one, so be it.  At least it put the pro masters guys back onstage, & that's a promising basis on which to get more pro masters competition (including, I hope, for masters women & masters figure) going in the IFBB.  Aging bodybuilders are a growth industry, & the first of the gen-Xer's (generally defined as having been born between 1961 & 1981) are in their early 40s & winning pro status.  Give Rusty & other masters guys more opportunities to win.  While we're at it, the NPC can combat the PDI magnet for new pros by granting more pro cards to their members.  It's ridiculous that Erik Fromm & plenty of other guys are still "amateurs" (a term that really has no meaning when they have better builds than some of the "pros"). 

[ieffinhatecardio]

your still presenting a very empty arguement.... short of facts and virtually no analytical comments. you say rusty should have one because "he was better". weak. i commented on those photos pin-pointng individual bodyparts, commented on the flaws in the way rusty was hitting the pose etc etc. monster playground logic on your behalf.

This post perfectly illustrates a poster that is grasping at straws. An analytical debate? Are you kidding?

If this wasn't so laughable I would debate you. Given that it's a complete and utter joke, I won't.

Debating an idiot makes you look like an evener bigger idiot.

[ribonucleic]

There were probably some contests Bob should have won & didn't, so what's the big deal?

A distinguished old lawyer is supposed to have said, 'When I was a young and inexperienced attorney, I lost cases I should have won. As I became accomplished in my profession, I won cases I should have lost. In this way, justice was served."

The big deal is that Bob - who has used his radio platform to (rightly) insist that the contest should go to the best man on that day - is enjoying the possession of a title and a prize that rightfully belongs to someone else.

[LuciusFox]

 Bob was the clear winner. His quality is easier to see in videos and while posing you can see his muscles "pop". Rusty should have placed second.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Bob was the clear winner. His quality is easier to see in videos and while posing you can see his muscles "pop". Rusty should have placed second.

Don't think I've forgotten about you, my screwdriver is nearly orange with rust. You're in for it.

By the way I like eggplant, mushroom and sausage pizza. 

[hifrommike]

Since when was bodybuilding competition fair, honest or objective?  It's sanctioned by a private organization whose goal is to make a profit, & market the winners for the maximum amount of advertising dollars.  No one in the sports world recognizes the record of competitive bodybuilding wins.  These records aren't in sports almanacs.  They're not reported in sports news.  If shows are covered in newspapers, it's typically in "lifestyles" sections.  Mainly they're ignored by the public at large.  That leaves the muscleheads & their fans arguing about who wuz robbed, & that will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks if you have $2.50 plus tax.  

[Ex Coelis]

fuck the mainstream public - this is our sport. If they dont understand it that's their problem

[nzmusclemonster]

This post perfectly illustrates a poster that is grasping at straws. An analytical debate? Are you kidding?

If this wasn't so laughable I would debate you. Given that it's a complete and utter joke, I won't.

Debating an idiot makes you look like an evener bigger idiot.

yes well done, you made yourself sound very intelligent 

[JKDMan]

The irony of Flex (who won more shows based on the same things pro/con) calling the kettle black....

The problem with your comparison is that your shape and proportion don't touch Flex's. 

Why can't pro's accept criticism and differing opinions on their physiques? Everything Flex said was said respectfully.

[Ron]

Ha - no matter what people say - Bob won that show. It was a weaker lineup, but based on that lineup, Bob won the show. 95% of the people whom I talked to that went to it said so. Be unbaised please.

Now, Flex Wheeler has his own opinion and that is great, he is entitled to it. If he says that he didnt believe Bob should of placed first, that is his opinion.  I have been in various places with Flex and he has got it correct many times, and wrong a few times.

And that goes the same with many other pros and even judges. Judgees have different opinions.

Now, for those of you, if a competitor gets straight ones, that doesnt mean he got straigh ones from all of the jufges. Usually, they take the top two and bottom two scores out. Sometimes the top three and bottom three, in the case of the Olympia.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Ha - no matter what people say - Bob won that show. It was a weaker lineup, but based on that lineup, Bob won the show. 95% of the people whom I talked to that went to it said so. Be unbaised please.

Now, Flex Wheeler has his own opinion and that is great, he is entitled to it. If he says that he didnt believe Bob should of placed first, that is his opinion.  I have been in various places with Flex and he has got it correct many times, and wrong a few times.

And that goes the same with many other pros and even judges. Judgees have different opinions.

Now, for those of you, if a competitor gets straight ones, that doesnt mean he got straigh ones from all of the jufges. Usually, they take the top two and bottom two scores out. Sometimes the top three and bottom three, in the case of the Olympia.

What's your explanation for why Jeffers finished 8th and why Chick and Jeffers were never called out together? Jeffers was absolutely robbed and everybody knows it.

Even Chickophants agree that 8th was a joke.

[onlyme]

Ha - no matter what people say - Bob won that show. It was a weaker lineup, but based on that lineup, Bob won the show. 95% of the people whom I talked to that went to it said so. Be unbaised please.

Ron, then you should have talked to more people then just the BB.com employees.

[Palpatine Q]

As outrageous as Chick comparing himself to Flex is yesterday Shawn Ray compared himself to Ali and some people defended him.

 

You twats care to show me exactly where Bob compares himself to Flex.