Kevin you are so full of shit. You are a photgraher. What the f**k do you know. Are you that stupid. You are at the bottom of the totem pole in any aspect of BB. Do you realize that. Not one of your facts you have ever gotten first hand. You bring nothing to the table in these discussions. You take pictures. That's it. And soon you won't be taking many. Has Wayne ever called you to tell you anything "inside". NO. You are wishing so bad that Wayne fails. And to be an idiot up front like you are constantly bringing up negative remarks about Wayne and the PDI just proves what kind of man you are. Face it, the PDI is here and it will be a HUGE pain in the ass to the IFBB. And when that happens you will be back in the soup line. You are a loyal IFBB stooge and you are hanging on by a thread. Face it.
And lets say the PDI like you said failed in 2004 (even though no shows were everr scheduled under the PDI). And nothing else has happened since, except Wayne getting all his shit together and now is ready to go. That is just 2 years of combined screwups. And so far not one athlete or promoter has lost money. So far not one ticket holder has been screwed out of money. So far not one athelte had a bounced check given to him or even never got paid. So taking into account all the stuff that never has happened. How do support a group like the IFBB who has been screwing people for at least the last 10 to 15 years, cancelled numerous shows, have athletes who don;t get paid, comes to the defense of NO athletes ever, and basically uses every one of their members without giving anything back. Who has screwed who more times and longer, the IFBB or the PDI. Nice group you support. Please never leave. It ensures the IFBB will sooner or later end when the PDI succeeds. It is inevitable that when the PDI succeeds the IFBB will fail. There is no doubt about it.
You are going down with the ship.
Yet another example of Keith's ability to have a reasonable discussion with someone with a different opinion. - throw insults!
Let's deal with "first hand facts". I was in NY in 2004 when the PDI held it's first show. I was in Hungary when Wayne was told that he had no support. I am still here now, when the first 2 shows on the 2006 schedule have been CANCELLED along with 3 European shows. One of them was the Vegas show which you accused me of "making up" - whose looking stupiid now?
Now let's look at "what kind of man you are". You're attacking me for questioning the PDI yet you do nothing but bash the IFBB, NPC, Bob, Shawn, Jiim Manion etc. so WHAT KIND OF MAN ARE YOU?
You defend the PDI by attacking the IFBB but Wayne was part of the IFBB for 20 years. During that time he fined athletes. Since he was fired not one athlete has been fined. How much would Wayne have fined Lee Priest or failing to show up to of his shows?