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Re: Review of Mark Dugdale's "Driven" DVD + LOTS of pics.
« Reply #125 on: June 20, 2006, 03:23:06 PM »
What I think is kind of odd is how much you add yourself into the reveiw of someones else DVD more Dugdale and less Canning  :P

when you're done w Matt, can you please e-mail ebert w some suggestions? . . . sometimes that fcuker's reviews are more about himself than the movie.

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« Reply #126 on: June 20, 2006, 03:23:37 PM »
Yeah but according to Christian morality, Hitler could have been born again during the last year of his life and be in heaven to this day.  Also, Gandhi is in hell right now.

This system isn't too appealing to me.  :-\

Hitler couldn't be allowed in heaven he commited suicide thats another no..no !!! and a person who commits muder can be forgiven by Jesus if he truly is remorsefull and honest .

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« Reply #127 on: June 20, 2006, 03:29:44 PM »
It's good to see a pro who is actually fulfilled in other areas of his life outside the bodybuilding stage.

I couldn't agree more. His demented religious beliefs aside, Mark is a true champion in this respect.

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« Reply #128 on: June 20, 2006, 03:39:07 PM »
who cares if mark is a christian and how he lives his life? who is anybody hear to say that all christians are evil or crazy? someone here even stated something about teaching kids christianity. yeah, that would be awful. i'd hate to live in a world that tried to follow what the bible says. i'd much rather live in a world of people who murder for no reason, pedophiles and etc. it is known that mark is a christian. never has it been stated that mark is Jesus or perfect or anything. you guys will try and tear down anyone you want to. i have never seen mark come across negatively so why jump all over him? obviously everything you guys do in your own lives is how everyone else should live. have fun.

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« Reply #129 on: June 20, 2006, 04:15:15 PM »
never has it been stated that mark is Jesus

Actually, Big Poppa started a thread called "Mark Dugdale is Jesus" but the moderator removed it.

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« Reply #130 on: June 20, 2006, 04:59:00 PM »
Actually, Big Poppa started a thread called "Mark Dugdale is Jesus" but the moderator removed it.
Really?  Time out, I never said my home was heaven, that I came to earth as fully man and fully God, lived a sinless life, died on a cross for those I chose before the foundation of the world, rose from the dead - conquering sin, satan, and death, and hung out with a few hundred people before assending back into heaven.  You must have me confused with someone else.

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« Reply #131 on: June 20, 2006, 05:04:11 PM »
honestly i couldn't care less if mark believes in god or not........this is a bodybuilding forum isn't it????
what's your next show mark?

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« Reply #132 on: June 20, 2006, 05:07:34 PM »
Really?  Time out, I never said my home was heaven, that I came to earth as fully man and fully God, lived a sinless life, died on a cross for those I chose before the foundation of the world, rose from the dead - conquering sin, satan, and death, and hung out with a few hundred people before assending back into heaven.  You must have me confused with someone else.

What?!!! I bought into that whole Mark Dugale is Jesus thread!   Christ, you mean I dropped my pants for nothing??!!  Say it ain't so Mark!   :'(

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« Reply #133 on: June 20, 2006, 05:18:09 PM »
I never said my home was heaven, that I came to earth as fully man and fully God, lived a sinless life, died on a cross for those I chose before the foundation of the world, rose from the dead - conquering sin, satan, and death, and hung out with a few hundred people before assending back into heaven.

Hmm. I could have sworn I read that someplace. Maybe Greg Valentino's column.

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« Reply #134 on: June 20, 2006, 05:46:43 PM »
who cares if mark is a christian and how he lives his life? who is anybody hear to say that all christians are evil or crazy? someone here even stated something about teaching kids christianity. yeah, that would be awful. i'd hate to live in a world that tried to follow what the bible says. i'd much rather live in a world of people who murder for no reason, pedophiles and etc. it is known that mark is a christian. never has it been stated that mark is Jesus or perfect or anything. you guys will try and tear down anyone you want to. i have never seen mark come across negatively so why jump all over him? obviously everything you guys do in your own lives is how everyone else should live. have fun.
i totaly agree with this post, from what i've seen of Mark on here he conducts himself with respect and i respect him for that, he's also a great bodybuilder.
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« Reply #135 on: June 20, 2006, 06:03:53 PM »
Really?  Time out, I never said my home was heaven, that I came to earth as fully man and fully God, lived a sinless life, died on a cross for those I chose before the foundation of the world, rose from the dead - conquering sin, satan, and death, and hung out with a few hundred people before assending back into heaven.  You must have me confused with someone else.

Mark have you ever had a chance to read the Devinci Code....... Or Angels and Demons. If so what was your take on them? Also what nationality is Dugdale?

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« Reply #136 on: June 20, 2006, 06:47:16 PM »
i totaly agree with this post, from what i've seen of Mark on here he conducts himself with respect and i respect him for that, he's also a great bodybuilder.

Same here, Sarcasm. Dugdale comes on these boards, takes the abuse and gives it right back, but with a much kinder twist. I think the sport would do a whole lot better with more guys like Dugdale than guys like Titus, LOL.

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« Reply #137 on: June 20, 2006, 07:49:16 PM »
i got to meet mark this year at the arnold and thought he was a very friendly and cool guy. i've also met non christians who i thought the same thing about. i don't put too much thought into ones thoughts and beliefs but more into what kind of person they are and how they act and treat others. christian or non. now i understand where some people come from when then talk down about christians. just remember to not judge every christian on a couple of bad ones that you've met.

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« Reply #138 on: June 20, 2006, 07:52:03 PM »
i got to meet mark this year at the arnold and thought he was a very friendly and cool guy. i've also met non christians who i thought the same thing about. i don't put too much thought into ones thoughts and beliefs but more into what kind of person they are and how they act and treat others. christian or non. now i understand where some people come from when then talk down about christians. just remember to not judge every christian on a couple of bad ones that you've met.

Personally, I don't judge on a couple of bad ones......its the fact that all the religious people I've known are bad.
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« Reply #139 on: June 20, 2006, 07:53:16 PM »
not all christians are bad...just most and dug is nice

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« Reply #140 on: July 18, 2006, 12:33:14 PM »
not all christians are bad...just most and dug is nice

To some degree, all Christians are bad.  To some degrees, all of us are.  A Christian realizes (should realize) that on their own they will make moral mistakes.  One of the common mistakes Christians make (me included), is being judgmental.  We have to constantly realize that we are no better than anyone else.  The only benefit we have (no merit to ourselves) is that we have a relationship with God that can transform us.

I truly believe that the world would be a far better off if we Christians would emulate our Christ (Jesus). Unfortunately we are spending too much time following "conservative" agendas and radical fundamentalists.  Above all things a Christian ought to love those around us.

I've had a few brief dialogs with Mark.  What I see in him is a man who genuinely loves his family and pursues Christlikeness. 
Romans 1:20

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« Reply #141 on: July 18, 2006, 12:48:05 PM »
What I see in him is a man who genuinely loves his family and pursues Christlikeness. 

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« Reply #142 on: July 22, 2006, 09:04:07 AM »
WWJB

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The weight of all of the sin of mankind.  Now that is heavy!
Romans 1:20

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« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2006, 10:26:49 AM »
The weight of all of the sin of mankind.  Now that is heavy!

 Hahaha ;D

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« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2006, 10:04:58 PM »
What you must understand Oak......is that some people are better than others.............it's a fact. Visit a maximum security prison sometime. My brother worked in one for several years, There are "unfixable" people.....the worst of the worst, they simply cannot be rehabilitated. And for that matter, why should these certain type of individuals be "rehabbed" on our dime? Someone messes with my son, your family............do you want him rehabilitated? There is a significant difference in people. People like the Dugdale's, who basically have it all...health, happiness, good looks, money, great family, great careers...a great support system...and they TREAT everyone like they are no different from them. That is my definition of exceptional.

People are jealous of success........monetaril y or career wise. Most of us are competitive by nature. The idiot's that bag on Mark are simply jealous....plain and simple. I know him.........and he really is a genuine guy and a class act.

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« Reply #145 on: July 24, 2006, 12:18:02 PM »
Mark Dugdale, here is a little food for thought...

1) The conversation between Nicodemus & Jesus is an invention (keep in mind John 3:16, the cornerstone of Christianity, is within this portion of the text too). Why?

Jesus says "You must be born from above." (2:22)
Nicodemus misunderstands him to mean "You must be born again."

This makes perfect sense in GREEK, since the word for "from above" also means "again."
However, it makes NO contexual sense in ARAMAIC, the actual language Jesus spoke.

Case in point ... the conversation never took place.
It should be attributed to the creativity of an anonymous Greek scribe.

Many of the "non-scholarly" Biblical translations change this around completely in order to try to circumvent a glaringly obvious problem. It just goes to show that Christians have no qualms with forgery, unauthorized license to edit, and every/any subversive means of trying to keep a rapidly unraveling lie in-tact.

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2) Most of the Pauline epistles are documented pseudepigrapha...
... meaning, the apostle Paul DID NOT ACTUALLY WRITE many of the epistles.

Every serious scholar is well aware that the vocabulary characteristic of the epistles was more modern than it was in Paul's lifetime.

Its the equivalent of trying to claim a document that contains phrases like
"Damn homie that n*gga got jacked" or "he pwned that n00b" was written in 1700.  ::)

The vocabulary alone can be used to invalidate claims of authenticity.
The style of Greek present in the majority of the epistles simply wasn't present until well after Paul's lifetime.

By the way, 2 Thessalonians, Colossians, Ephesians, 1 & 2 Timothy, AND Titus were not written by Paul, though quite clearly claim to be in the introduction of the text. I don't know about you, but I'm not about to take stock in a theology purported as truth where the author not only lies about his identity, but assumes the identity of a famous, prominent, historical apostle.

That said, I can cite a plethora of other reasons attesting to the fallacy of this myth that is popularly known as Christianity.
(Feel free to message me privately or inquire right here in the thread for details).

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You are an outstanding athlete Dugdale, and fortunately, you can continue to inject anabolic steroids with a conscience as clear as day - since a Creator that doesn't exist and a lunatic who believed that the kingdom of God, accompanied with the shaking of the Earth and the falling of the stars, would come to Earth in the lifetime of his apostles (LOL ... nearly 2000 years ago) certainly won't hold you accountable for your actions.

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By the way, the "anti-christ" was Nero...
666 was the numerical value of Nero's name.

When "Caesar Nero" is spelled in Hebrew letters (Nero becomes Neron), ihe numerical total equates to 666. If the name is spelled without the "n" at the end, simply "Nero", the number is 616, since 'n' is worth 50 in the Hebrew numerical system.

As I'm sure you know, some of the ancient Greek manuscripts cite 616 instead.

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« Reply #146 on: July 24, 2006, 12:32:49 PM »
What you must understand Oak......is that some people are better than others.............it's a fact. Visit a maximum security prison sometime. My brother worked in one for several years, There are "unfixable" people.....the worst of the worst, they simply cannot be rehabilitated. And for that matter, why should these certain type of individuals be "rehabbed" on our dime? Someone messes with my son, your family............do you want him rehabilitated? There is a significant difference in people. People like the Dugdale's, who basically have it all...health, happiness, good looks, money, great family, great careers...a great support system...and they TREAT everyone like they are no different from them. That is my definition of exceptional.

People are jealous of success........monetaril y or career wise. Most of us are competitive by nature. The idiot's that bag on Mark are simply jealous....plain and simple. I know him.........and he really is a genuine guy and a class act.

1. "Whatever you do unto the least of these, you do unto me."

2. "It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

Both statements Jeebus-approved.

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« Reply #147 on: July 24, 2006, 12:38:33 PM »
Organized religion has been the bane of humanity.  It has caused more destruction and bloodshed than literally any other factor.

Time to start thinking using logic and science and not with fairie tales that bring us comfort.  Ironically, the world would be more god like if we did just that.

hahaha you atheists - sitting there smilling smugly like you've got everything figured out

you can't balme organized religion for everything because of the actions of a few members with evil in their hearts

go to mass - it'll do you more good than sitting at home wrapped in cynisism

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« Reply #148 on: July 24, 2006, 12:56:54 PM »
I used to be a passionate Christian ... really.

I whole-heartedly believed that the Old Testament could attest to the authenticity of Jesus Christ. After all, Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophecies in the Old Testament, including a relatively detailed account of his death (hands and feet pierced) prophecied 700 years before crucifixion was even invented by the Persians!

However, I subsequently discovered that Biblical text has no integrity.
Much of it is pseudepigrapha. If the author is not authentic, then how the hell can I believe in some of the intangibles like the creation account, the resurrection, etc?

Idiot Christians!
"Hi ... like ... I'm not really the apostle Paul ... but I'm going to pretend to be so my personal values will be published as law in the canon ... and of course you must believe every f*cking thing I tell you in this epistle or you are disobeying Christ!"



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« Reply #149 on: July 24, 2006, 01:05:53 PM »
As always, well said Matt C. =]
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