Author Topic: Sports Illus horror story about steroid use (Read 22400 times)

whateva · « **Reply #50 on:** June 18, 2006, 07:45:39 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 07:39:53 PM

because of the emotional way you reacted.

you are right. I'm meltingdown as we speak

LuciusFox · « **Reply #51 on:** June 18, 2006, 07:51:24 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 07:32:33 PM

yes he is you moron, one small cycle 12 years ago is natural to me and any reasonable person, you're just jealous because you juice to the gills and still look like an 8 dollar an hour bouncer at the local country music bar.

I have to agree with this. There is no need to be puritanical about natural status.

whateva · « **Reply #52 on:** June 18, 2006, 07:58:47 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 07:51:24 PM

I have to agree with this. There is no need to be puritanical about natural status.

once you lost your virginity ,you can talk about abstinence all you want ,but you are not a virgin anymore

onlyme · « **Reply #53 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:00:31 PM »

Quote from: Magnus on June 18, 2006, 10:17:34 AM

.........the next Ronnie

no legs;
no lats;
big waist line...........

ok, maybe just the belly of Ronnie

Yes but the same size calves as Coleman

LuciusFox · « **Reply #54 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:23:56 PM »

Quote from: whateva on June 18, 2006, 07:58:47 PM

once you lost your virginity ,you can talk about abstinence all you want ,but you are not a virgin anymore

I don't think the two are comparable. Losing virginity is experience that can't be taken back, the same as using steroids, but the effect on a physique of one small cycle can become negligible over time.

240 is Back · « **Reply #55 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:32:30 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on June 18, 2006, 08:23:56 PM

I don't think the two are comparable. Losing virginity is experience that can't be taken back, the same as using steroids, but the effect on a physique of one small cycle can become negligible over time.

I think it should be classified as clean. not natural.

Cause once you enter the gray area, you can argue all day. Is one cycle, then ten years off, considered natural? What about 2 cycles, then 8 years off? Soon you'll have lifetime juicers that have taken 6 months off claiming "I'm all natural, you juicer pricks!"

LuciusFox · « **Reply #56 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:43:59 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 18, 2006, 08:32:30 PM

I think it should be classified as clean. not natural.

Cause once you enter the gray area, you can argue all day. Is one cycle, then ten years off, considered natural? What about 2 cycles, then 8 years off? Soon you'll have lifetime juicers that have taken 6 months off claiming "I'm all natural, you juicer pricks!"

Just because it might create a gray area doesn't mean we should create absurd limits. He did the cycle 12 years ago and it apparently didn't add much mass. If he remains drug-free and training until he is 50 years-old will he still be clean?

Clean implies someone who has built a substantial amount of mass with steroids but is not currently using.

rocket · « **Reply #57 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:53:10 PM »

Those pics afterwards were horrific. Not so much the one where he has lost the weight but the ones where he is juiced are terrible. For the record the recovery pic is clearly resized incorrectly. He had a heart attack and his head suddenly changed structure to one more akin of frankenstein

I can only assume he wasn't dealt a full hand upstairs to go all out when it totally wasn't on.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #58 on:** June 18, 2006, 08:57:23 PM »

Quote from: rocket on June 18, 2006, 08:53:10 PM

Those pics afterwards were horrific. Not so much the one where he has lost the weight but the ones where he is juiced are terrible. For the record the recovery pic is clearly resized incorrectly. He had a heart attack and his head suddenly changed structure to one more akin of frankenstein

I can only assume he wasn't dealt a full hand upstairs to go all out when it totally wasn't on.

I expected him to look a little bigger in the juiced pic $:-\$

Mobil · « **Reply #59 on:** June 18, 2006, 09:19:44 PM »

"Cunningham had set a goal--to become a pro bodybuilder--and he was willing to do whatever it took to reach it. So he juiced for two years straight, never once cycling off to give his body a break"

im glad they added this in there to show he abused them.

ARMZ · « **Reply #60 on:** June 18, 2006, 09:31:51 PM »

Quote from: hifrommike on June 18, 2006, 09:48:31 AM

SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, April 24, 2006

The Human Cost

by Luis Fernando Llosa

Cunningham's plan was to win at the 2006 NPC Heart of Texas Bodybuilding, Figure & Fitness Championships, a Plano amateur contest, and then try to work his way up to the nationals. Instead he lay facedown on his mom's floor on that December morning, dying. His heart stopped and paramedics shocked him eight times, to no avail. On the ninth try he was revived, and he was rushed to Baylor Medical Center in Garland. "They gave him no chance of surviving," says Julia, her eyes welling up. "A chaplain met me at the door."

This guy wouldn't even place in a local Florida show..

honest · « **Reply #61 on:** June 18, 2006, 09:45:00 PM »

Quote from: Mobil on June 18, 2006, 09:19:44 PM

"Cunningham had set a goal--to become a pro bodybuilder--and he was willing to do whatever it took to reach it. So he juiced for two years straight, never once cycling off to give his body a break"

im glad they added this in there to show he abused them.

still that is not enough reason for his sudden death, steroid related health concerns happen years later due mainly to the effect AS has on the heart and cholesterol changes resulting in calcification in the arteries and other things, sudden death is not usually associated with even abuse.

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #62 on:** June 18, 2006, 10:08:35 PM »

Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!!

ARMZ · « **Reply #63 on:** June 18, 2006, 10:13:19 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on June 18, 2006, 10:08:35 PM

Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!!

..And Cunningham too.. He was doing it for his fans! He was gonna be Mr. "Heart of Texas Bodybuilding, Figure & Fitness Championships, a Plano amateur"

Dos Equis · « **Reply #64 on:** June 18, 2006, 10:21:49 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on June 18, 2006, 10:08:35 PM

Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!!

Milos, Matarazzo (sp?), Flex, Don Long, Burke, etc., etc. Lots of near misses.

Croatch · « **Reply #65 on:** June 18, 2006, 10:30:39 PM »

Quote

Just because it might create a gray area doesn't mean we should create absurd limits. He did the cycle 12 years ago and it apparently didn't add much mass. If he remains drug-free and training until he is 50 years-old will he still be clean? Clean implies someone who has built a substantial amount of mass with steroids but is not currently using.

Clean since 94' or natural. I could careless. I would consider someone natural, assuming all there current gains were attained naturally.

240 is Back · « **Reply #66 on:** June 18, 2006, 10:36:43 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on June 18, 2006, 10:30:39 PM

Clean since 94' or natural. I could careless. I would consider someone natural, assuming all there current gains were attained naturally.

good point. but you blew up like 40 pounds of bulk over that 2 months of use, right? That had to have sped up your development process. for someone to gain 40 pounds of bulk in 2 months with no gear would be incredible. either way, you're 99.99% natural. i just like to argue

brianX · « **Reply #67 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:01:55 AM »

Ray Liotta?

rocket · « **Reply #68 on:** June 19, 2006, 03:38:36 AM »

Every time I look at that picture I think.. 2 years juicing nonstop for that

Ryu717 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 19, 2006, 05:57:10 AM »

Quote from: Magnus on June 18, 2006, 10:17:34 AM

.........the next Ronnie

no legs;
no lats;
big waist line...........

ok, maybe just the belly of Ronnie

Exactly ! This guy didn't know what he was doing ! The meatheads in the gym are often not the guys to for training advice. I bet you could be natural and look like his before photo !

jeffrey. · « **Reply #70 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:19:40 AM »

Quote from: nzmusclemonster on June 18, 2006, 11:54:23 AM

i thought this was the after pic of when he was retarded...

lol....so did i $:-\$

bigtmoney · « **Reply #71 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:34:48 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on June 18, 2006, 10:02:06 AM

225 lb. shoulder shrugs, what an animal!!!

LOL...I knew that one was coming as soon as I read it!

Below Me · « **Reply #72 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:46:01 AM »

Quote from: rocket on June 19, 2006, 03:38:36 AM

Every time I look at that picture I think.. 2 years juicing nonstop for that

I think the expression

DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB"

is appropriate and a lesson to be learned.

Also, 28 and living at home? WTF

gtbro1 · « **Reply #73 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:49:47 AM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on June 18, 2006, 10:08:35 PM

Just remember.... Tom Prince almost DIED for you bitches!!

I see this quote all the time...who said it and when? Was it a TP meltdown on getbig or what?

Naked4Jesus · « **Reply #74 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:56:40 AM »

There's about a gazillion natural guys that would hand this walking infection his ass. You've got to be kiddding me, it's like he totally skipped out on training legs. Pathetic!

Anyone got his email address? I'd like to invite him to the site for the sole purpose of asking him... WTF were you thinking, dude... I mean, you can't be serious right?