uh-oh, Mayhem is saying Vince Taylor is not signed with the PDI

[natural al]

New thread on Mayhem says Vince isn't signed with the PDI and might not do the NOC.  They're saying he's weighing his options between the NOC and the Olympia at this point and no contract has been signed.......don't shoot the messenger.

[HICKSON]

PDI/NOC = Chance

IFBB/Olympia = No chance......

 

No wonder some of these guys live @ mom's house.....

[Karl Kox]

to me at this point in his career he should go with PDI

[body88]

If he is smart he will do the PDI. He wouldent place top 5 at the O.

[ieffinhatecardio]

The PDI isn't going to make it. Unless they throw him some serious money why be associated with an organization that is doomed to fail?

[240 is Back]

IFBB Athletes Rep Bob Chic posted on getbig last night that "a few" of the IFBB guys who have crossed over to the PDI are having "second thoughts".  Since there are only TWO, we know who he meant. 

Today, there are rumors all over, because the Athletes Rep made a public statement about it.

So either:
1) He is trying to undermine the PDI, thus costing the IFBB guys who wish to compete there a decent chunk of change.

2) He is talking "out of school" about Vinces' business

3) He just blindly repeats anything he hears.

Whichever it was, IMO, it's unprofessional on his part.  He is hurting Vince's credibility, and/or he is trying to hurt NOC ticket sales, which will hurt IFBB guys doing NOC shows.   Either way, he is violating the implied ethics of the Athlete's Rep position- a neutral, impartial person who tries to help the athletes earn more money and benefits.  Best case, he's just blindly repeating rumors, which is irresponsible behavior for a man with such a title.



PS>.. When asked for proof, your statement of "I don't have to prove jack shit" was poor and embarassing for a group representative who just made a statement affecting one or manys' livelihoods.  just my opinion again.

[Hurricane Beef !]

In addition to being an athlete's rep, Chick is also a human being with every right to express his opinions and make statements. Everything Chick say and does is not necessarily in his official capacity.

With respect to being unprofessional, you are the last person who should be casting stones. Your behaviour on this site is a direct reflection of who you are and your childish behavior does not exactly instill confidence in potential customers. Who wants an unfiltered man-child having anything to do with their enterprise. Why give a spoiled little brat a chance?

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Just look at this, this guy has nothing better to do than spend ( at this point ) 2 months of his life on this site. I thought I was sad . . .

You know Rob, for an MBA your sure don't spell that well. I also hear Gulf Coast University has no record of a Rob Ziruolo earning an MBA. Care to comment?

The Beef

[littleguns]

Vince has already publicly announced his displeasure for the IFBB, dont you think this will hurt his future placings which in turn will hurt his wallet/bank account? Realistically how many more years can he compete?

At least at the PDI, it is freash ground and I think his physique will do really well.

[jaejonna]

If PDI had a themesong , it would be a snippet from Aerosmiths Love in an Elevator...



GOOOIIINNNNNGGGG DOWWWNNNNNNN ******

[jaejonna]

Its not a sin to take steroids.... i


Kinda like, its not a sin to jump in front of a car...


they are just both bad judgement calls...

[jwb]

Vince is a crafty old dog.

He'd be saying to wayne... "I love you wayne but I ain't getting onstage unless you give me ten grand to prep for this thing just in case it don't happen"

that is the PDI's dilema. Starting from scratch entirely with rookies who don't expect/deserve upfront support will make it harder for them to make it...

[New York]

Vince has already publicly announced his displeasure for the IFBB, dont you think this will hurt his future placings which in turn will hurt his wallet/bank account? Realistically how many more years can he compete?

At least at the PDI, it is freash ground and I think his physique will do really well.

Vince can continue to place well AND make some improvement's if he continue's to train smart. Al Beckle's won the Niagara pro show when he was in his mid fiftie's.

[Tre]

Al Beckle's won the Viagra pro show when he was in his mid fifties.

Hmm, interesting name for a show...rather appropriate, eh?

[bigtmoney]

Does everyone get paid at the O?

[jaejonna]

Most of the guys who place low have to pay back thier drug dealers... oh i mean friend of a friend that knows this guy in mexico with the good sh*t...

[bigtmoney]

LOL..so for most, it's a bad investment then? 

[jaejonna]

For most its a unfulfilled promise...its an investment on a depreciable asset.... they break even with the hopes of more exposure equalling more money.. but Im not one to talk to , "cause I never put on a set of trunks and walked on stage"...I cant really talk about it 

If your a newbie here..make it a topic and then maybe GH15 can drop some knowledge... he is the resident Getbig Undercover Pro ... Not a company man who tells you that the Masters was sold out but on video there are 25-30 in the stands in an auditorium that holds 3000...he is not that ...

[Tre]

If I were Vince, I wouldn't compete without having guaranteed appearance fees, 50% of which would have to be paid up front. 

[jaejonna]

So 240 your saying that before the round table discussion on ProBB weekly, Chick is "Talking out of School" with Vince T's money, and messing with is money is like messin with his bitches?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

IFBB Athletes Rep Bob Chic posted on getbig last night that "a few" of the IFBB guys who have crossed over to the PDI are having "second thoughts".  Since there are only TWO, we know who he meant. 

Today, there are rumors all over, because the Athletes Rep made a public statement about it.

So either:
1) He is trying to undermine the PDI, thus costing the IFBB guys who wish to compete there a decent chunk of change.

2) He is talking "out of school" about Vinces' business

3) He just blindly repeats anything he hears.

Whichever it was, IMO, it's unprofessional on his part.  He is hurting Vince's credibility, and/or he is trying to hurt NOC ticket sales, which will hurt IFBB guys doing NOC shows.   Either way, he is violating the implied ethics of the Athlete's Rep position- a neutral, impartial person who tries to help the athletes earn more money and benefits.  Best case, he's just blindly repeating rumors, which is irresponsible behavior for a man with such a title.



PS>.. When asked for proof, your statement of "I don't have to prove jack shit" was poor and embarassing for a group representative who just made a statement affecting one or manys' livelihoods.  just my opinion again.

1.  First of Bob is the IFBB Pro Athletes Rep.  He has no obligation whatsoever to support athletes going to the PDI nor is he responsible for PDI pro as some of them are not truly pro athletes.

2.  If Vince Taylor is having second thoughts, I wouldn't blame him at all.  He has an illustrious career with the IFBB as well as going into the Hall of Fame as well.  He may not wish to piss on the organization that's given him so much.  In addition, I'm sure he's not very happy that Lee Priest picture was the only one displayed on the NOC posters.  Where's his picture?? Where's Galanti??? where's Rhino's?  Its like he's already won the show so I'm think that Vince is wanting some money up front for his appearance which I honestly cannot blame.

3.  Chick may be hearing the same things we're hearing but I'm sure he knows a lot more.  He's on the inside of things so he would know better


4.  The PDI is already hurting themselves by canceling out numerous shows before the first one even begins, it doesn't send a good sign to the sponsors.  Honestly, I think the only show there ever will be will be the NOC and then that will be it. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

If I were Vince, I wouldn't compete without having guaranteed appearance fees, 50% of which would have to be paid up front. 

For the second time ever, I actually agree with you.



(First time was when I had the porn shop)

[240 is Back]

So 240 your saying that before the round table discussion on ProBB weekly, Chick is "Talking out of School" with Vince T's money, and messing with is money is like messin with his bitches?

This is just my humble opinion of course  - but I did say early on that the IFBB would launch a bit of a 'disinformation campaign'.  Is this the beginning? I don't know.   It's a gray area between a few IFBB guys stating some rumors they heard, and IFBB guys telling outright lies to hurt the PDI.

I don't know where the line should be drawn- but I do know that it should be looked at.

[jaejonna]

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rhino!

[Hedgehog]

IFBB Athletes Rep Bob Chic posted on getbig last night that "a few" of the IFBB guys who have crossed over to the PDI are having "second thoughts".  Since there are only TWO, we know who he meant. 

Today, there are rumors all over, because the Athletes Rep made a public statement about it.

Seems like the posts on Mayhem was specifically about Vince Taylor not signed with PDI.

Cicherillo made some post about IFBB pros having second thoughts.

I don't see the direct correlation, sorry.

Yeah, maybe his post got someone with knowledge about the situation to post the info about Vince Taylor not being signed.

But how do we know if that is the case?

It's just assumptions of guilt.

The information that Vince may not be doing the PDI, is extremely hot news. Could make for a great topic on PBB, assuming that Solomon and those participating are able to scoop up some hard facts.

If Vince isn't competing, it's a big blow for the PDI, no doubt.

YIP
Zack

[240 is Back]

If Vince isn't competing, it's a big blow for the PDI, no doubt.

YIP
Zack

I agree with that.  IMO if one of the hosts heard the rumor, he should call up Vince and get him to confirm/deny tonight.  Would make a lot more sense- and exude more impartiality- than one of the hosts actually dropping the rumor bomb on the boards and letting it fester.