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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2006, 01:40:02 PM »
he was tiny to begin with.
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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2006, 01:45:31 PM »
Jalali - Monster delusional.

FFS, the guy's gotta be kidding.


I bet he's considering continuing with the hardcore approach.. 8)

"I'll only use a little bit of diuretics next time"

Monster. Delusional.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2006, 01:48:14 PM »
Maybe the 50-minute walk in the Vegas humidity was an attempt to drop more water for the night show.  This is something most ppl rarely do, much less on a whim after dieting and drying out.

oh yeah - monster denial.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2006, 01:49:29 PM »
Maybe the 50-minute walk in the Vegas humidity was an attempt to drop more water for the night show.  This is something most ppl rarely do, much less on a whim after dieting and drying out.

oh yeah - monster denial.
hahahaha, the funny thing is he thinks that a few sets of bench presses and some anadrol is what saved him.
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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2006, 01:56:17 PM »
The sad part is that this kid is 23 and probably still feels invincible.  Contrary to popular opinion, it is not the roids that directly kill you.  They are a silent killer as they slowly hurt your liver, but it is the cardiovascular risk associated with them that leads to events such as strokes or MI's later on.  Roids also raise your blood pressure indirectly, but if followed by a physician they are probably less insiduous than a lot of precription drugs as long as they are not abused.  The more likely culprit is the diuretics (along with GH and insulin which totally screw with your metabolic system) that competitors use. 

During the cutting up stage before a show, it is not unheard of for an athlete to essentially withhold all free water and take crazy doses of lasix and spironolactone.  Apparently, this combo can get you diced, but its side effect profile is dangerous...abnormal electrolytes especially potassium and magnesium.  Both of these electrolyte disorders lead to cardiac dysrrhythmias.  The unfortunate side effect is Momo Benaziza or even Paul Dillett from a few years ago.  This dude was proabably jacked on all of these drugs.  He then proceeds to walk in the dry Nevada heat which causes insensible water losses. The dude likely went into renal failure, cardiac dysfunction, etc.  Yes, lifting weights and cardio activity are healthy.  However, bodybuilders as a whole who abuse these agents are very unhealthy. 

I know I tend to disagree with ND, but that pic of Ronnie with the O2 tank is classic.  ;D  Lance Armstrong can ride a 150 miles on a bike up a mountain, and then proceed to carry out a full conversation immediately after.  Most pro bodybuilders, and I am sure amateur national level competitors, get severely short winded immediately after posing for three minutes.  Thus, this kid probably looks really good from the outside, but I would love to take a gander at his renal profile, liver function testing and lipid panel.  He probably has atherosclerotic disease of a fifty year old.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2006, 01:58:07 PM »
I’m now in a perfect state of health, weighing a hard 205 pounds doing photo shoots.”

I also have a 25 inch waist, .273% bodyfat, a notarized document of immortality, a muscletech deal, a $6.789M home, etc etc.

Bodybuilders are forever fibbin'!

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2006, 02:11:44 PM »
Good post nicorulez.  Some pros (King Kamali) seem to think we should be jealous of him "living the dream."

In 2002, during my mountain ops course with the CF I trekked up Mt. McKay with 100 pounds of army gear.  That hike took me 13 hours but I was fine after the fact.  This was the culmination of a week long course with lots of climbing and very little rest.  I wonder if King or most pro bodybuilders could even carry that much gear up the stairs.

It's kind of sad when pros are supposed to be the picture of health and fitness.  They are strong as well as being big and cut, but it ends there.  Flex Wheeler did seem athletic, but I'm not sure if he was or just looked that way.

I would suspect that juicing moderately would cause little damage - I haven't seen any scientific literature to show me otherwise.  The problem is: which pro moderates drugs?
any one of those guys would gas one mile into that hike no doubt about it.
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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2006, 02:18:55 PM »
Jalali should realize he has a second chance.  At only 23, he almost died.  Insane.  i'd run from Bbing fast and learn knitting or something.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2006, 02:26:29 PM »
Thanks Matt C, being an internist and now a specialist, I have seen my fair share of guys who abused.  The most memorable case was this jacked prison guard in Texas who looked like a mini Ronnie Coleman (about 275 pounds solid).  Unfortunately, the dude took some bad juice and got hepatitis and a staph infection from it.  First of all, the dummy shared needles (idiot) and then didn't get pharmaceutical grade roids.  Needless to say, all of that abuse put a hurting on his body, and after six weeks of IV antibiotics and supportive care with a hepatologist in tow (liver specialist), the dude left the hospital at much less robust 180 pounds.  Funny thing was that he was so bummed he was probably going to go juice again immediately after discharge.

 I would be more than willing to follow liver enzymes and cholesterol profiles of guys I know who adamantly refuse to go natural.  However, I would never condone their useage and would try to convince the person that it is what is happening inside that is dangerous.  I honestly feel a low dose of testosterone is probably fairly benign if you are monitored.  Unfortunately, as is all of America, once we gain a little and see the response of our peers, we want more and are willing to take the risk.  It is like Olympic athletes who would be willing to die in 5 years or less if they were guranteed the Gold medal.  :'(

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2006, 02:29:30 PM »
What Jalali may or may not think or may or may not have said is not really the issue.

what the issue should be is that the editors of flexonline would allow such crap to be published.  they know that the use of diuretics in preparation for the contest was the underlying cause of his hospitalization.  for them to post such a white-washed story is irresponsible journalism.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2006, 03:12:24 PM »
What Jalali may or may not think or may or may not have said is not really the issue.

what the issue should be is that the editors of flexonline would allow such crap to be published.  they know that the use of diuretics in preparation for the contest was the underlying cause of his hospitalization.  for them to post such a white-washed story is irresponsible journalism.

I disagree.

Perfectly ok to publish his view.

But if doing so, interviewing someone with thorough knowledge on the diet, and letting him/her comment on the story by Jalali, would have been the proper procedure.

Also, they could've easily called the hospital in question, tried some investigative journalism to see what the medical journals said.

In other words: I think it's ok to let bodybuilders and others claim bullshit. But call the bullshit every once in awhile. Please?

Would be great if a bodybuilding mag for once would try some critical journalism.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2006, 05:35:37 PM »
In other words: I think it's ok to let bodybuilders and others claim bullshit. But call the bullshit every once in awhile. Please?

We're basically saying the same thing.  My view is just more specific:  Don't call the bs every once in a while.  Call it when ever you see it.

and you don't need to balance bs with another opinion.  you just need to point out when something is obviously bs and why you think it's bs.

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2006, 06:37:19 PM »
I was thinking the smaller guys would be ok, but even Dexter needed O2 at the Arnold Classic this year.

I was watching a few of the GMV DVDs and pros used to jog for cardio.  Can you believe that?  Vince Taylor and Jusup Wilkosz both did long jogs in their DVDs.

I've read that the late Johnny Fuller used to run marathons at his competition weight !! bodybuiding used to be veiwed in the 50s as a healthy & fit activity but thats all changed I remember reading Lee Preist said his cardio consisted of walking from his car into the gym !!

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2006, 06:57:54 PM »
I was thinking the smaller guys would be ok, but even Dexter needed O2 at the Arnold Classic this year.

I was watching a few of the GMV DVDs and pros used to jog for cardio.  Can you believe that?  Vince Taylor and Jusup Wilkosz both did long jogs in their DVDs.

One of the things that made me lose interest in bodybuilding is how unhealthy and non-functional all that muscle mass is (apart from the steroid implications).  The really huge juice bags can't even walk around without getting completely red in the face and short of breath.  What kind of a life is it where you can't even walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing for breath?

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Re: Chris Jalali - "Bodybuilding saved my life."
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2006, 07:06:14 PM »
Too cheap to take a cab?  50 FN mins?  Did he try to walk all the way to the Orleans Hotel or something?  ;D
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