Sporting, seems to be good so far, muscles are fuller. Taking the tren and primo every other day and the winny tabs everyday. Primo has ruled out the limp dick, winny is bringing out the garden hose veins...figure about another week (4 weeks in) I'll hit the clen to get rid of the extra water and crap. After all that ranting...I like the stack, but nothing beats tren and enthanate...problem is a little more water is held.