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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #225 on: July 18, 2006, 08:19:32 PM »
i start reading this thread for entertainment purposes now days when i come on getbig :D

And just how much do you bench big boy? 325?
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« Reply #226 on: July 18, 2006, 08:23:43 PM »
I am not huge, I am just good size now, I weigh about 257 lbs, but my hands have always been big.I can palm a basket ball, and my hands are bigger then alot of guys who are 6"4 -6'5".I have really long fingers, and 8" wrists.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #227 on: July 18, 2006, 08:27:04 PM »
GH15 I try to be nice to this guy, but he just never stops does he.I talked to my cousin who lives in LA down by Venice beach, and I asked him about GH15, I know his real name.It seems like GH15 is quite the entertainer , when it comes to private posing sessions for the local rich homosexuals in Venice.GH 15 acts like a real bad ass, but its seems like he is a pillow bitter deep down inside, lol

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« Reply #228 on: July 18, 2006, 08:28:53 PM »
GH15 I try to be nice to this guy, but he just never stops does he.I talked to my cousin who lives in LA down by Venice beach, and I asked him about GH15, I know his real name.It seems like GH15 is quite the entertainer , when it comes to private posing sessions for the local rich homosexuals in Venice.GH 15 acts like a real bad ass, but its seems like he is a pillow bitter deep down inside, lol

LMAO!!! ;D
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #229 on: July 18, 2006, 10:15:49 PM »
Is GH15 bitter because he is too short for the sport or too tall for the sport?  What is his stats like?   You dont have to give away name but you can give away stats. Theres nothing wrong with that.  He claims to be top olympian is it true?


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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #230 on: July 18, 2006, 11:23:24 PM »
Castor, I dont know want GH15's  problem is ,I think he is a just a bitter angry person.I tried to be nice to him 2 weeks of free supplements just to prove to him supplements do work.Of course he backed out because he knew I would prove him wrong.I think gh15 's thinks he always has to be right, and if he doesnt like something , or doesnt know about something its junk.He im pretty sure sells stroids for a living, which is his buissnes.The problem I have with him is he thinks all supplements are scams or junk.Thats only because he doesnt know anything about them so if he doesnt know about something he would rather say its junk then admit he doesnt know.If he was smart he would realise that if it wasnt for supplements companies paying there endorsed athletes, all Pro bodybuilders would be dirt poor.Just look at the prize money at pro bodybuilding shows, lol take lets say 8 th ot 10 th in the Mr Olympia, and only get a $1000 , thats sad.Any other sport pays 1000 times more then that.Me OLYMPIA I think I am not sure got like $120-150,000 ,lol thats sad, considering winning the superbowl pays millions.If it wasnt for BSN paying Ronnie Coleman I think it was 1 million dollars for a 2 to 3 year contract, he would have hard times.A 120-150,000 isnt crap when your spending a third of that on drugs a year just to stay on top.So GH15  keep bashing supplements, and I will save your posts, and email them to any company that is or might be endorsing you.Remember this GH15 supplements do work, and if it wasnt for supplement companies endorsing athletes and sponsoring bodybuilding shows, there would be pro bodybuilding shows.So you can thank me for sponsoring the Arnold and the Mr O for the last 7 years buy paying $6000 per booth for 2 booths so you could get your prize money.GH15 dont bite the hands that feed you, or it might bite you in the ass

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #231 on: July 18, 2006, 11:37:02 PM »
Nice post John. (got em by the balls) 

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #232 on: July 18, 2006, 11:59:51 PM »
Castor, I dont know want GH15's  problem is ,I think he is a just a bitter angry person.I tried to be nice to him 2 weeks of free supplements just to prove to him supplements do work.Of course he backed out because he knew I would prove him wrong.I think gh15 's thinks he always has to be right, and if he doesnt like something , or doesnt know about something its junk.He im pretty sure sells stroids for a living, which is his buissnes.The problem I have with him is he thinks all supplements are scams or junk.Thats only because he doesnt know anything about them so if he doesnt know about something he would rather say its junk then admit he doesnt know.If he was smart he would realise that if it wasnt for supplements companies paying there endorsed athletes, all Pro bodybuilders would be dirt poor.Just look at the prize money at pro bodybuilding shows, lol take lets say 8 th ot 10 th in the Mr Olympia, and only get a $1000 , thats sad.Any other sport pays 1000 times more then that.Me OLYMPIA I think I am not sure got like $120-150,000 ,lol thats sad, considering winning the superbowl pays millions.If it wasnt for BSN paying Ronnie Coleman I think it was 1 million dollars for a 2 to 3 year contract, he would have hard times.A 120-150,000 isnt crap when your spending a third of that on drugs a year just to stay on top.So GH15  keep bashing supplements, and I will save your posts, and email them to any company that is or might be endorsing you.Remember this GH15 supplements do work, and if it wasnt for supplement companies endorsing athletes and sponsoring bodybuilding shows, there would be pro bodybuilding shows.So you can thank me for sponsoring the Arnold and the Mr O for the last 7 years buy paying $6000 per booth for 2 booths so you could get your prize money.GH15 dont bite the hands that feed you, or it might bite you in the ass


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listen,,, i didnt say EVERY SINGLE SUPP is junk. i said 99% of them is junk!

good supp: protien powders such as anything to do with dorian yates or beverly and FEW other "companies",,,,BCAA is decent SUPP infact it is GOOD SUPP!,,,umm digestive enzymes are decent...especially if you got problems down there!,,,,what else...um,,,vitargo the jury still out,, multi vitamin is ok,,,rest is simply JUNK.

creatine is junk,,,glutamine id take only if it's part of protien poweder,,,pro hormones...better take real gear tablets since you gonna get real results as in REAL muscle mass gains,,,,thats bout it. i know a lot about supp i just know the business so well,, that i cant lie about it especially not under this gh15 name ;)

if majority of supp worked as of 2006,, you would have many MANY big muscular guys in ymca,,you dont.
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #233 on: July 19, 2006, 12:09:31 AM »
Castor, I dont know want GH15's  problem is ,I think he is a just a bitter angry person.I tried to be nice to him 2 weeks of free supplements just to prove to him supplements do work.Of course he backed out because he knew I would prove him wrong.I think gh15 's thinks he always has to be right, and if he doesnt like something , or doesnt know about something its junk.He im pretty sure sells stroids for a living, which is his buissnes.The problem I have with him is he thinks all supplements are scams or junk.Thats only because he doesnt know anything about them so if he doesnt know about something he would rather say its junk then admit he doesnt know.If he was smart he would realise that if it wasnt for supplements companies paying there endorsed athletes, all Pro bodybuilders would be dirt poor.Just look at the prize money at pro bodybuilding shows, lol take lets say 8 th ot 10 th in the Mr Olympia, and only get a $1000 , thats sad.Any other sport pays 1000 times more then that.Me OLYMPIA I think I am not sure got like $120-150,000 ,lol thats sad, considering winning the superbowl pays millions.If it wasnt for BSN paying Ronnie Coleman I think it was 1 million dollars for a 2 to 3 year contract, he would have hard times.A 120-150,000 isnt crap when your spending a third of that on drugs a year just to stay on top.So GH15  keep bashing supplements, and I will save your posts, and email them to any company that is or might be endorsing you.Remember this GH15 supplements do work, and if it wasnt for supplement companies endorsing athletes and sponsoring bodybuilding shows, there would be pro bodybuilding shows.So you can thank me for sponsoring the Arnold and the Mr O for the last 7 years buy paying $6000 per booth for 2 booths so you could get your prize money.GH15 dont bite the hands that feed you, or it might bite you in the ass

So GETITONY are you confirming that GH 15 really is a pro that competes at the Mr.O? Also, just because pros are endorsed by supplement companies doesn't mean they use them even though they get a free supply.

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #234 on: July 19, 2006, 12:16:16 AM »
i dont think he knows who i am,, but what i can tell you about the above subject is,,,and maybe it will tell you something about how good supp are,,

i would take SEO over supp if the hormone market was to be eliminated (and so would ANY!! other pro card holder)   :)
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2006, 12:20:27 AM »
GH1,what's SEO?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #236 on: July 19, 2006, 12:27:57 AM »
look at naser rear delts in his prime, look at ken biceps in his prime,,,the list has no end. combo of SiteEnhancingOil/AAS and NOLOTIL in uniqe occations (competition ;))
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #237 on: July 19, 2006, 02:20:41 AM »
both of you have horrible typing skills.

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« Reply #238 on: July 19, 2006, 01:45:04 PM »
Yes ,GH15 is a pro bodybuilder, I want disclose his name because out of respect for him and his lively hood.He actually is a pretty good pro athlete..

Now Class is in session , listen carefully GH15 you can learn something .GH 15 says creatine is junk , foolish statement .There is several thousand pages, from very well know professors, doctors, and scientist on the positive benefits of creatine for athletes.These studies go back to the 1940's.Now the only problem they had with creatine was it would when it was put into water or in digestion it would convert to creatinine.This is a a nasty by product of creatine that the body cant use.Until now my good friend and world renown scientist Jeff Golini created Kre-Alkayln ,The good thing about Kre-Alkalyn is it has a PH of 12-14 so it never converts to creatinine .Most creatines only have a PH of 4-6 thats why it converts to creatinine because its PH makes it acidic .Kre-Alkayln is in the Alkalyn zone because of its high PH(12-14) .The reason why creatine monohydrate would cause bloating cramping and the runs is because it would convert to creatinine in the body, and creatinine is toxic. GH 15 I bet you didnt know that creatine is made up of 3 amino acids.They are Glycine ,L-Arginine, and Methionine.GH15 so when are amino acids junk, lol .GH15 says L-Glutamine is junk , this is another uneducated guess, it seems Nubaine has gotten the best of him, lol.
Did you know 60% of all muscle tissue contains L-Glutamine?and L-Glutamine is junk .Listen it takes L-Glutamine to fully heal and help muscles recover.There is literally 100's of pages in medical journals and the encyclopia of medicine support L-Glutamine and its amazing healing properties.Branched Chain Amino Acids arent bad, but they are 10 times more effective taken with L-Glutamine.
GH15 Also said that the Jury is still out on Vitargo, lol .I dont know where you have been but Vitargo is the best carb ever created.There is literally 100's of studies supporting the benefits of Vitargo.The amazing thing about Vitago is its hypogenic, meaning its faster then water , so wont make you retain water.Milos Sarcev swears by Vitargo, he was the first one to bring it to the USA.Also Gustavo Baddell, the third best bodybuilder in the world uses Vitargo daily .After training he takes in 100 grams of Vitargo, 50 grams of Whey protein Isolate, and 10 grams of L-Glutamine.I could name 10 other pro bodybuilders who I supply with Vitargo.
The bottom line is this supplements arent junk, yes there are alot of dishonest companies in this industry.But every industry has its share of scumm bags.If it wasnt for supplement companies like my self who sponsor and support bodybuilding there would be any bodybuilding.I do custome formulations for about 8 pro bodybuilders now.I cannot state there names because they are under contract with large companies.Like GH15 I respect there privacy, and there lively hood.GH15 if you would like to know who they are im me, and then you can call them and ask them about me and my knowledge.
Now here is an open challege.I challenge GH15 to take the supplements I supply to him for 2 weeks, I will even cover shipping.After 2 weeks we will post how well they worked for him.I gurantee,I will change his mind about creatine L-Glutamine and other supplements.GH15 are you up to a challenge?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #239 on: July 19, 2006, 02:18:57 PM »
On a serious note, GH15 dont encourage or encourage these guys to site inject enhancing oils .I personally thinks it not true bodybuilding.GH15 You know as well as I know enhancing oils almost Killed Milos Sarcev .He was injecting it into his tricept and it went terribly wrong and put him in a coma for several days.Milos is no dummy, he knows his stuff, so site injecting can be dangerous.GH15 I know your a fanatical pro bodybuilder but sometimes its better not to encourage others by the power of suggestion.How would you feel if one of these guys read your post . Then got on the internet and bought some enhancing oil and injected into his body.He messes up some how, and pemantly screws up his body for the rest of his life, or it kills him .Would you want that on your conscience?You are a pro bodybuilder , please be careful what you say, because people are influenced by you

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #240 on: July 19, 2006, 04:39:15 PM »
Yes ,GH15 is a pro bodybuilder, I want disclose his name because out of respect for him and his lively hood.He actually is a pretty good pro athlete..

Now Class is in session , listen carefully GH15 you can learn something .GH 15 says creatine is junk , foolish statement .There is several thousand pages, from very well know professors, doctors, and scientist on the positive benefits of creatine for athletes.These studies go back to the 1940's.Now the only problem they had with creatine was it would when it was put into water or in digestion it would convert to creatinine.This is a a nasty by product of creatine that the body cant use.Until now my good friend and world renown scientist Jeff Golini created Kre-Alkayln ,The good thing about Kre-Alkalyn is it has a PH of 12-14 so it never converts to creatinine .Most creatines only have a PH of 4-6 thats why it converts to creatinine because its PH makes it acidic .Kre-Alkayln is in the Alkalyn zone because of its high PH(12-14) .The reason why creatine monohydrate would cause bloating cramping and the runs is because it would convert to creatinine in the body, and creatinine is toxic. GH 15 I bet you didnt know that creatine is made up of 3 amino acids.They are Glycine ,L-Arginine, and Methionine.GH15 so when are amino acids junk, lol .GH15 says L-Glutamine is junk , this is another uneducated guess, it seems Nubaine has gotten the best of him, lol.
Did you know 60% of all muscle tissue contains L-Glutamine?and L-Glutamine is junk .Listen it takes L-Glutamine to fully heal and help muscles recover.There is literally 100's of pages in medical journals and the encyclopia of medicine support L-Glutamine and its amazing healing properties.Branched Chain Amino Acids arent bad, but they are 10 times more effective taken with L-Glutamine.
GH15 Also said that the Jury is still out on Vitargo, lol .I dont know where you have been but Vitargo is the best carb ever created.There is literally 100's of studies supporting the benefits of Vitargo.The amazing thing about Vitago is its hypogenic, meaning its faster then water , so wont make you retain water.Milos Sarcev swears by Vitargo, he was the first one to bring it to the USA.Also Gustavo Baddell, the third best bodybuilder in the world uses Vitargo daily .After training he takes in 100 grams of Vitargo, 50 grams of Whey protein Isolate, and 10 grams of L-Glutamine.I could name 10 other pro bodybuilders who I supply with Vitargo.
The bottom line is this supplements arent junk, yes there are alot of dishonest companies in this industry.But every industry has its share of scumm bags.If it wasnt for supplement companies like my self who sponsor and support bodybuilding there would be any bodybuilding.I do custome formulations for about 8 pro bodybuilders now.I cannot state there names because they are under contract with large companies.Like GH15 I respect there privacy, and there lively hood.GH15 if you would like to know who they are im me, and then you can call them and ask them about me and my knowledge.
Now here is an open challege.I challenge GH15 to take the supplements I supply to him for 2 weeks, I will even cover shipping.After 2 weeks we will post how well they worked for him.I gurantee,I will change his mind about creatine L-Glutamine and other supplements.GH15 are you up to a challenge?

1) why would i take dirty silver if already have pure gold?

2)i get offered about 10-15 diff supp to try in one single week. i categorically refuse it because i refuse to add to the hype of something that is not even in the same world as hormones.

3)you seem to think i have something against you and i DONT,,,i respect you and your contribution to the sport,,,with out supp companies we would pretty much be nothing so you are right about it,, just dont agree with your opinion as to their effectivness.

4)all of what i write on getbig is out of PERSONAL EXPERIENCE on my physiqe of all of the above supp you mentioned

5)this is the main point here so you gotta GOT-TA understand it. THE LIVER take all those supp and KILLS THEM. it beaks them apart and send them on their way to the toilet thus making them NOT EFFECTIVE. on paper they sound good,,,in reality they are junk. NOT ALL BUT MOST! any tablet called  pro hormone is getting broken by the liver and dont even pass the first time,, liver breaks them like they were nothing but dirty hezbolla terrorists since they dont have 17aa atached to them.

glutamine is ok if in protien poweder otherwise dont bother,,,it dont do nothing trust me on that,,,creatine is same thing,,,little water retention if you are responsive,,if not it does nada. new version of both might be easier on the stomack BUT! is still same old final result which is nothing but dissapoinment,,especially when your buddies are blowing up like superman on hormones. i simply say to board members: try it for yourself and see for yourself.

6) BCAA i take only because the body can not produce those amino acids by itself and i want extra in my diet. it is good!

7) i NEVER encoraged any one to inject seo,,,what i did is clarifying the truth. milos problem had nothing to do with the seo,,,it was the fact it was injected into the blood and not into the muscle. sometimes you pull back on syrnge and blood dont come out my friend,,,thats why you need to wait 60-90 seconds at the least with the plunger pulled back and only then inject and inject slowly and not in crazy doses!

comon man im a fuckin top pro in this subject i have seen and done everything on a regular basis for years,,,you cant teach the teacher

*i DO NOT suggest you use SEO if you dont know what you are doing. infact i do not suggest you use it unless your arms mesure 20 inch and stuck at this mesurments for long long time + competetive bodybuilder a must.

8 i do not accept the challenge but maybe a guy from the board. a fair guy,,,developed,,,that been in the sport for some time,,,can accept it and report back,,,and if you do it make sure he got no connection to the supp market because this market is worse than us bodybuilders in its lies, manipulations and at times bunk products.



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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #241 on: July 19, 2006, 07:16:54 PM »
gh15 is a tough nut to crack,he has his belief's and theories,their both good on the board .i like both view's they have,just no insult's out of respect for each other's comment's .

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« Reply #242 on: July 19, 2006, 07:21:47 PM »
GH15 ,You are a smart man, and a pro bodybuilder, and I respect that.You know more anabolics then I know, but when it comes to natural supplementation you have alot to learn.I was a professional "real Natural "athlete in 2 organizations.I would get up to 250-255 lbs off season and diet down to 218-220 lbs, totally drug free.I got my arms up to 20" pumped, and benched 500 lbs ,curled 225 got 4 and squated 500 lbs for 10 totally drug free.I admit I used anabolics for 3 1/2 years,but not alot of them.When I said I didnt want to become and IFBB PRO is because there is no way you can become a pro bodybuilder using only $1500 worth of anabolics for the USA.Plus I didnt use GH ,and I never used any typre of SEO.If you want to turn pro, you know you have to use Insulin, atleast 8-10 IU'S of GH, and use alot more then $1500 worth of anabolics.My goal was to break top 10 at nationals, and I thought if I broke top 5 I would be estatic.I know what IFBB pros go through, and I was not willing to put all that stuff in my body.It wasnt a money issue, it was a personal issue, I have 2 children and a wife, so I didnt want to take any chances with my health.I admire what you have done ,and were bodybuilding has taken you.To be a pro bodybuilder today you have to literally push your body to the limit anabolic wise.Thats why there are bodybuilders who die, and bodybuilders who have health issues.
Now I read your post, and your entitled to your opinion, but research and facts dont lie.Creatine is a naturally occuring element in the body, that needs to be replenished daily.Yes you can get from meat, but alot of the creatine from meat is destroyed from the heat when you cook it.Your right in saying creatine can cause bloating ,but that is cheap Chinese creatine.Kre-Alkalyn on the other hand causes no water retention, and doesnt give you a puffy appearenceThe reason for this is it has a PH that is at an alkalyn level.So it wont cause stomach distress bloating or cramping.Every body builder needs creatine for the benefits it has on ATP.
Now about L-Glutamine , like I said before in my last post 60% of your muscle tissue is made up from L-Glutamine period!!! So you think you need to take BCAAS because the body cannot produce them on its own, but you dont think a bodybuilder needs L-Glutamine? The body needs L-Glutamine more then it needs BCAAS , thats for dam sure.A guy with the amount of muscle couldnt possibly get enough L-Glutamine from food, or even the best protein powder .A guy at your level, with all the mass you carry, and how hard you train needs atleast 50-60 grams of L-Glutamine  per day, ,with about 20-30 grams of BCAAS.If I had to pick a supplement to take L-Glutamine would be #1 on my list, it is the most over looked and most  underated supplement ever made.
GH15  you never answered what I said about Vitargo being the best carb
Lastly my challege wasnt to anyone on this board but you .I work with about 14 athletes, and 6 of them are pro bodybuilders.I know you probably get offers from hundreds of supplement companies a week.I dont want to endorse you, because you dont beleive in supplments, all of my athletes honestly use my supplements.I was just having a friendly challenge for 2 weeks to prove to you supplements do work .I trained drug free for 14 years, and when I did do anabolics I got to 290 lbs, without GH, or insulin.I was at about 10 % bodyfat, I had 21 " arms cold, without any SEO in them,31",  thighs. and 57" chest.So anabolics did help me, but I used alot of supplements including Kre-ALKALYN , L-Glutamine, Protein powder, BCAAS, and other amino acids.So I am not some  gym rat, or a dummy.My challege to you is just for fun, I will not announce your name or want any time or recognition from you whatsoever.This is just between 2 gentlemen, you and I .You think Supplements dont work I say they do, whs right?Lets find out .No there not as good as steroids, but they can work better then you think they can.SO challenge or no challenge?

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #243 on: July 19, 2006, 11:56:40 PM »
John has been a gentleman to GH15 and the rest of us.  I want to thank John because this thread is the main reason I come on board everyday to learn about the sport.

John, I have another question.  Some pros like Dexter Jackson say it is possible to gain lean mass while cutting during the last 10-12 weeks before a show while others say there is no way and that you either bulk or cut.   I know everything is based on the individual but what ratio of carbs to protein do you personally think is instrumental in gaining lean mass while shedding fat. Do drugs play a big role in this journey?     

Is it possible for say a 200 lb bodybuilder to gain lean mass while going as low as 50-100 grams of carbs a day and carb cycles with high level of carb on the every 5th day.

Again thanks for the responses.

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« Reply #244 on: July 20, 2006, 11:05:06 AM »
Castor Troy, thank you so much for your kind words.
As far as dieting goes you cant build muscle while dieting if your a natural bodybuilder, because the cardio, posing, and training make your body very catabolic.To help you preserve all your muscle naturally , you can take L-Glutamine, BCAAS , and 2 grams of protein per body LB per day.Now when it comes to anabolics use you can build muscle and add size during a precontest diet.Look at Kevin Leverone, he would be like 210-200 lbs off season and compete at 250 lbs.When I used anabolics while dieting for the first 4 weeks I would gain size and strength.And after 12 weeks of dieting I would only lose like 15-18 lbs , and if you did the math for my bodfat precentage I should have lost like 30-35 lbs.The reason for this is when most top ametuers and pros use more anabolics when they diet, so there body builds muscle and repairs tissue faster.When I was off season I would use 2 maybe 3 anabolics for a show I would take up to 6 things.I didnt take alot of each thing , but my body was in such an anabolic state it would just grow.It doesnt matter how much you weigh or how you look offseason, its how good you look when you peel off and step on that stage.All the bullshit, and talking stops there

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #245 on: July 20, 2006, 11:22:56 AM »
Hey GetItOnNY what stack do you recommend for a steroid virgin to win the national championships without risking health. Lets say a show like mr. Canada? Hypothetically ofcourse.
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« Reply #246 on: July 20, 2006, 01:14:38 PM »
Alex you have to have some kind of offseason stack to first get a good foundation
For Off season I would use maybe 500 mg of Sustanon 250 400 mg of Decca, and maybe 300 mg of Primobolan

For precontest first the first 6 week out of twelve I would use 500 mg of Sustanon 250 or Omnidren 500mg 300 mg of Equpoise, then 300 mg of Primobolan and 200 mg of Trenbalone.Then at 6 weeks out I would cut out the Sustanon and Equapoise.Then switch to 400 mg Test
Propinate a week, 1/2 to 1 cc of Winstrol,per day. I would also use about 20-30 mg of anavar per day.Then  at 4 weeks out I would add Halotestin and take that daily.Now 1 week before the show I would cut out the Propinate, Trenbalone and Primobolan , and start using Cytodren.The cycles I gave you are the basics

I admit I know a decent amount about anabolics but GH15 is alot more knowledgable about this subject.I was all natural for 14 years and only used anabolics for 3 1/2 years. I didnt use alot I just used what I needed, I am sure GH15 will read this post and give you more insight.When it comes to natural supplements I am a Guru, because I design and formulate then.I know enough about anabolics to know what they do and how they work.If you want to know about supplements ask me, if you want to know more about anabolics ask GH15 .We dont agree on everything but we both have our strong points when it comes to knowlege

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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #247 on: July 20, 2006, 01:58:52 PM »
Alex you have to have some kind of offseason stack to first get a good foundation
For Off season I would use maybe 500 mg of Sustanon 250 400 mg of Decca, and maybe 300 mg of Primobolan

For precontest first the first 6 week out of twelve I would use 500 mg of Sustanon 250 or Omnidren 500mg 300 mg of Equpoise, then 300 mg of Primobolan and 200 mg of Trenbalone.Then at 6 weeks out I would cut out the Sustanon and Equapoise.Then switch to 400 mg Test
Propinate a week, 1/2 to 1 cc of Winstrol,per day. I would also use about 20-30 mg of anavar per day.Then  at 4 weeks out I would add Halotestin and take that daily.Now 1 week before the show I would cut out the Propinate, Trenbalone and Primobolan , and start using Cytodren.The cycles I gave you are the basics

I admit I know a decent amount about anabolics but GH15 is alot more knowledgable about this subject.I was all natural for 14 years and only used anabolics for 3 1/2 years. I didnt use alot I just used what I needed, I am sure GH15 will read this post and give you more insight.When it comes to natural supplements I am a Guru, because I design and formulate then.I know enough about anabolics to know what they do and how they work.If you want to know about supplements ask me, if you want to know more about anabolics ask GH15 .We dont agree on everything but we both have our strong points when it comes to knowlege

Cool thanks a lot for your honesty man!!! So many diff asteroids and I don't even knoww what a cc or amp is lol! ;D

Gh15 same question to you and which brands are legid?
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Re: Request for GETITONY, aka John D.
« Reply #248 on: July 20, 2006, 02:54:53 PM »
what alex needs is muscle mass,,he already got over all size he is 6'4 or 6'5 no?

testex elmu or norma test 500mg/week+ norma deca400mg/week + 30mg/day thai anabol by british dispensary. NO BRITISH DRAGON PRODUCTS FOR FIRST CYCLE. all the products i recommended sholuld come from a solid supplier. do this 10 weeks,, no anti estrogen needed unless you got problem with severe gyno,, i would also suggest if you want anti estrogen due to paranoia to first try to go with proviron (HUMAN GRADE schering) 50mg/day it will eliminate any problem with regards to hardness and gyno issues in 90% of people.

you will stand ~270 at the end of the cycle if done right and invlove lots of calories. ONLY HUMAN GRADE PHARMA PRODUCTS! write it above your head in bed.
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« Reply #249 on: July 20, 2006, 03:05:18 PM »
what alex needs is muscle mass,,he already got over all size he is 6'4 or 6'5 no?

testex elmu or norma test 500mg/week+ norma deca400mg/week + 30mg/day thai anabol by british dispensary. NO BRITISH DRAGON PRODUCTS FOR FIRST CYCLE. all the products i recommended sholuld come from a solid supplier. do this 10 weeks,, no anti estrogen needed unless you got problem with severe gyno,, i would also suggest if you want anti estrogen due to paranoia to first try to go with proviron (HUMAN GRADE schering) 50mg/day it will eliminate any problem with regards to hardness and gyno issues in 90% of people.

you will stand ~270 at the end of the cycle if done right and invlove lots of calories. ONLY HUMAN GRADE PHARMA PRODUCTS! write it above your head in bed.

Awesome thanks for the answer! I am actually 6'3 1/2" 230 pounds and below 10% as I am getting reading for the mr. getbig natural. I am only considering using and am not sure yet if I really do need it to compete because lets get real here... I am the epitome of what a man should look like! ;D
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