Here is another article for you stud...you have to click the link.
http://sportsci.org/encyc/anabstereff/anabstereff.html
As is so evident by your reply earlier, you don't feel that hypertension is a big issue for bodbuilders. Have you ever taken the blood pressure of a 300 pound, steroid using individual who came to the ER 2nd to a nose bleed (otherwise known as epistaxis). First off, risks for hypertension include excess sodium diet (in a person predisposed to hypertension), stimulants, weight gain and steroids (at least diastolic blood pressure). Your argument about aldosterone is stupid. Aldosterone is produced in the cascade by the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system. Aldosterone secretion is suppressed when you have a high salt diet. It is also suppressed by high blood pressure. In usual individuals who are not hypertensive, you get a soidum natriuresis in your kidneys that gets rid of the excess salt. However, individuals who are alread hypertensive can have a pardoxical response and not get rid of the excess sodium intake. No, most people who are hypertensive are so because of something called "essential" hypertension. That means it is idiopathic. I have patients with no risk factors (150 pound swimmers who don't smoke) with hypertension.
For the most part you are correct, if you lift and exercise, your cardiovascular risk is low. However, to defend pro bodybuilders who shoot steroids, use GH/insulin cocktails, take huge amounts of ephedrine/clenbuterol, eat like crazy in the off season and then abuse diuretics when the show approaches is foolish. Trust me, if the IFBB mandated a yearly physical and bloodwork, the 330 fat Ronnie and Jay would not be the epitome of health.
STUD ? I like that.. Where do I begin ? First off-It is nice to speak to somebody with actual knowledge...which you obviously have.. I didn't read your post clearly. I was primarily poking holes in the argument that relatively small amounts of insulin cause type-2 in BB's.. I didnt understand that you were relating it to GH. (MY BAD) I read the article that you provided a link to. On page 7 it states that the chances for glucose intolerance are very small. Obviosly the larger amounts of GH a BB does becomes more dangerous. HOWEVER-The tremendous insulin sensitivity that athletes enjoy outweighs the negative effects of GH. A BB may use 2-4 IU/day, while an AIDS patient uses much more than that. BTW-How much GH does an adolescent use ?
I do believe that a significant % of BB would share the fact that they became diabetic from insulin use if that were the case. I myself have suffered prostate enlargement from using Test. I tell as many people as I can to protect them from the same fate. I would never keep that a secret. Am I the ONLY person with a consciense ? I doubt it. The BEST we have is "ANECDOTAL" evidence ? With absolutely zero names.. We could ask the surgeon general himself if he has the name of 1 single person that has ever had Diabetes or liver cancer from AAS, and he would answer NO. Oh, wait a minute, he would answer-Lyle Alzaydo !! (AIDS).. He would go back 16 years and spit out the name of a person that died of AIDS.
No-I am not a physician. But the average doctor cannot understand the chronic illnesses. Everybody that comes into GNC states to me solemnly that their Diabetes/ High Cholesterol/HBP are all Genetic !! Where do you think they heard that from ? Their Doctor. As a result-they GIVE UP, and accept it as their fate. I always ask them if they received any nutritional advice or exercise advice from their MD's. Their answer is almost always "NO". The doctor just puts em on the statins, the glucophage, etc. WE have 50 million men in the US with high cholesterol, and the majority think it's GENETIC. If we cut back the processed carbs, and exercised, and added LOTS of supplemental fiber, their lipid readins would fall. But thanks to the commercials on TV that talk about
"Fettucine Alfredo & Your Uncle Fredo", all these people belive it is GENETIC. I have news for the AMA,..The human body DID NOT evolve that poorly !!
It is a self-serving stance that a doctor takes by using the "Genetic black box" to explain everything. Lastly, the doctors instill a MYTH that walking 20 minutes a day is adequate exercise ??
That is criminal.
AS far as HBP- I forget to mention STRESS. How come the vast majority of people that come to GNC with high blood pressure are overweight, smoke, dont exercise (walk), drink too much coffee ? Are you telling me that the majority of HBP patients you see have no risk factors ? THat is very difficult to believe. I have almost never seen that at my job, and I talk to alot of people. There definetely ARE BB's with HBP, you are correct, what percentage ? Difficult to say. But many of them-like myself- have escaped because of the dilation of blood vessels.
Doctors have failed horribly at the Chronic illnesses. They can transplant hearts & separate siamese twins !!
But they cant HAMMER HOME to a person to lift weights, eat fiber, cut out processed carbs.
Information (crap) published by the AMA suggests that being Black / Hispanic is a risk factor for diabetes.
But they never say why... Leaving the readed to "give UP" on helping themselves. Leaving the Black to think like it is cickle cell anemia. That is BEYOND criminal.. It is a function of a diet high in carbs because they are cheap. And a function of people on lower economic levels having less time to exercise properly.
In closing, I do appreciate your info-it is very good. You have the platform and the letters after your name...I Don't !
So it is an inherent obligation for you to HAMMER INTO THEIR HEADS what they can do to help themselves.
If you guys would STRESS the cures, It would make my job alot easier. They are better hearing it from you.
But It takes time to EXPLAIN it all from A-Z to somebody. Sometimes I wonder if the average MD bothers to invest that time. I already know the answer to that.. Instead, I have to explain it all when they wander into GNC with that clue-less look on their face.
I am not sticking up for BB's. The sport is NOT worth what they go thru. I just don't like the negative sensationalism that people throw at them
NOBODY knows it all. Not You, not Me, Not C. Everett Koop. We should all work together to solve the chronic illnesses
