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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #200 on: July 23, 2006, 01:13:36 PM »
You still avoided the question.

all of them, the clown

hahahaha, looks like i touched a nerve with Mr. Czeckoslovakian roid user, hahahaha, monster lack of free weight training.

LOL, I thought he was being sarcastic? jesus, what a toolbag
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #201 on: July 23, 2006, 01:25:38 PM »




DC, your training method may not have worked for me but I do respect your work in bodybuilding and you know I'm big fan of Tru Protein. 


And just to let you folks know, I rinse my beef whenever I make my Texas Chili recipe.  It doesn't affect the flavor and it does take out a lot of fat. 

You are a monster fool

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #202 on: July 23, 2006, 01:34:51 PM »
I think Kevin Levrone may have had some MAJOR health problems but never made them public.

like what?

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #203 on: July 23, 2006, 01:36:09 PM »
like what?

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No idea.  I am willing to bet a doctor did tell him to stop doing whatever he was doing.

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #204 on: July 23, 2006, 01:43:27 PM »
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #205 on: July 23, 2006, 01:44:18 PM »
no you need the genetics to respond well to those drugs my friend,, it's a combo of physical factors and lots of time,,money,,determination,,and luck as i said many times before.


Ahahahaahaaa, monster steroid user excuse.

And what's up with the double commata,, is that some secret sign???
Or too much Ephedrine in your system?

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #206 on: July 23, 2006, 01:45:13 PM »
whats wrong with smith? smith is as hard as free weights,, take off 10lb for the bar on the smith because its little lighter than free bar,,,and you got same end result from either free weights or smith. stabelizer muscles means nothing and it is poor excuse for people want to impress dumb women and dumber men in gyms. INFACT i find smith to be better for specific exercises and preventing many injuries. YOU CAN TRAIN WITH  CABLE AND BOW FLEX AND HAVE AS GOOD OF A PHYSIQE AS A GUY THAT TRAIN WITH FREE WEIGHTS FOR 3 YEARS IN A RAW AS LONG AS YOU TRAIN YOUR MUSCLES CORRECTLY AND TO FAILURE.

You know, we don't always agree, but I'm with you on this one.

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #207 on: July 23, 2006, 01:55:17 PM »
A BB may use 2-4 IU/day, while an AIDS patient uses much more than that. BTW-How much GH does an adolescent use ?


Are you saying a BBer uses 2-4 IU a day of GH? ROFL!!!  Yeah, Ronnie and Jay use 2-4 IU - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA..................

Try 3-4 times more per day.
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #208 on: July 23, 2006, 02:08:20 PM »
Ron, very good posts, very honest and informative, just like your MD articles.
The only problem I have is altough I belive Ronnie doesnt take alot and is genetically very gifted. I dont belive he turned Pro naturally.
I know thats what he claims but he also claims publically that he natural. He probably used very little but I doubt you belive he was clean when turned pro. Only Ronnie knows the truth.

Mindspin, why the hell are you a moderator on Bodybuilding board, if you show suche disrespect to Bodybuilder. I mean you had a great physique and maybe still do, but it's very obvious all your posts are full of hatred to bodybuilders. The bottom line you are asshole and not only shouldnt be a moderator but should not be here period.

Dave Palumbo was helping Anthony with his comeback, so it puzzles me is that while Dave is such an expert he wouldnt advice his friend/client against getting ready for a show, taking diuretics (which I belive are responsible for anthony's death).

RIP Anthony. You were a great guy and very helpful to me.



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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #209 on: July 23, 2006, 02:11:04 PM »
Coleman hasn't claimed to be natural in about 10 years, IIRC.  Used to be his tagline, then he got very silent about it when he started winning.

His use is right up there at the top.  The growth in his skull over the last 8 years is terrifying.

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #210 on: July 23, 2006, 02:31:45 PM »
Ron, very good posts, very honest and informative, just like your MD articles.
The only problem I have is altough I belive Ronnie doesnt take alot and is genetically very gifted. I dont belive he turned Pro naturally.
I know thats what he claims but he also claims publically that he natural. He probably used very little but I doubt you belive he was clean when turned pro. Only Ronnie knows the truth.

Mindspin, why the hell are you a moderator on Bodybuilding board, if you show suche disrespect to Bodybuilder. I mean you had a great physique and maybe still do, but it's very obvious all your posts are full of hatred to bodybuilders. The bottom line you are asshole and not only shouldnt be a moderator but should not be here period.

Dave Palumbo was helping Anthony with his comeback, so it puzzles me is that while Dave is such an expert he wouldnt advice his friend/client against getting ready for a show, taking diuretics (which I belive are responsible for anthony's death).

RIP Anthony. You were a great guy and very helpful to me.


Good post. Ronnie didn't turn pro naturally !!  Nobody has. I remember it was in FLEX or Muscle fitness that Darrem Charles was also years ago. All that is simply not true.  Coleman LIED about all that because he was a cop, and he doesn't want to go back and untangle all that. Just like Barry Bonds. He will go to his grave either maintaining he is 100% natural, or that he didn't use until whatever year in the 1990's.

I asked Wayne Demilia this question in the early 1990's. He stated the obvious in a phone conversation.
"Nobody on that stage is natural" 

There ARE genetic freaks !!  Ronnie is one of them. And he works his ass off !!  But NOBODY turns PRO-or wins a national title, or wins a statewide title, or a level 3 show & above NATURALLY !! NOBODY !!  Not even the great Ronnie Coleman..

He will take that to the grave with him, all the talk about him being natural for so many early years.

And in a way I cant blame him. Sometimes a lie gets so big that it has to remain that way forever.

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #211 on: July 23, 2006, 02:42:45 PM »
Coleman hasn't claimed to be natural in about 10 years, IIRC.  Used to be his tagline, then he got very silent about it when he started winning.

His use is right up there at the top.  The growth in his skull over the last 8 years is terrifying.
im going to have to look at some old pictures and compare.....I've never really noticed with Ronnie. Jay I did though.
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #212 on: July 23, 2006, 02:47:21 PM »
im going to have to look at some old pictures and compare.....I've never really noticed with Ronnie. Jay I did though.

http://www.240orbust.com/downloads/rc.wmv

here's an earlier video clip

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #213 on: July 23, 2006, 02:49:11 PM »
....my god.
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #214 on: July 23, 2006, 02:51:55 PM »
http://www.240orbust.com/downloads/rc.wmv

here's an earlier video clip

He looked way better there. Thats just crazy.  He could actually move around. 

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #215 on: July 23, 2006, 02:52:26 PM »
Bodybuilding hasn't been about building a healthy physique since around 1970 or so.

Sad, but true.



RIP Anthony. Condolences to family and friends.
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #216 on: July 23, 2006, 03:01:32 PM »




DC, your training method may not have worked for me but I do respect your work in bodybuilding and you know I'm big fan of Tru Protein. 


And just to let you folks know, I rinse my beef whenever I make my Texas Chili recipe.  It doesn't affect the flavor and it does take out a lot of fat. 


Wow, if Vince rinses his beef, maybe I should too.............. ::)
HAHA, RON.....

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #217 on: July 23, 2006, 03:41:26 PM »
Johnny, yes I am a physician and I do work out.  In fact, I stress diet, exercise and weight loss to all of my patients.  However, I agree with you that most physicians do not practice what they preach; it does piss me off to see a physician smoke for instance.  However, I believe you are mistaking something grossly; medical science does not make blanket statements without scientific proof.  For instance, over 50% if Pima Indians are diabetic; this has been proven over and over again.  There is a known genetic basis for this.  Type 2 Diabetes has an exceedingly high genetic basis; thus, if your mom had it you are at increased risk.  Blacks are known to be at increased risk to be hypertensive; this has nothing to do with their conditioning.  There are genetic basis for both hypertension and diabetes.  Now, you use testosterone and only test.  Let us see, do you honestly think that if you run of the threadmill for thirty minutes a day it would prevent the negative cholesterol side effects.  The answer is no.  Also, exercise only decreases a patient's cholesterol by 15-20% max.  This has been studied.  Even world class athletes are on lipitor or zocor.  There is definitely a genetic basis. Here is a linky for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9537421

Now, let us say you dabble in GH.  You don't believe that an adult male with normal GH levels who takes in far more than is physiologically necessary will have side effects.  Yes, long term studies are few and far between, but when kids who take just a enough GH to boost growth (miniscule compared to pro BB) have an increased risk for diabetes that should raise your eyebrows.  GH does cause diabetes and I gurantee that if professional BB's who abused GH took routine bloodwork; this would come out.  BTW, even if an athlete has hypertension or diabetes do you really think they would let anyone but their physicians and immediate family to know.  No way as they are making a living doing this stuff.

Finally, do roids cause liver cancer? Well, once again you are uninformed.  Alzado did not die of AIDS.  He had a brain tumor.  Did steroids contribute to this.  We will never know, although I am sure they did not exactly slow down the cancer.  However, anabolics (especially oral steroids which require two passes in the liver) can cause cirrhosis and cancer.  Don't believe me, check out some links or just google it.  There are numerous journal articles that show your ignorance.  Word of mouth from your steroid dealers and buddies is not fact.  In fact, most steroid abusers are so in the dark that it is actually quite scary that they would consider injecting or ingesting this stuff without medical supervision.  It is stupid and dangerous.  At least if you use, get a qualified physician who is not judgemental to test you.  It is pretty easy.  Well, here is the last link.  Hope this clears up some of your misconceptions.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/SteroidAlert/SteroidAlert.html

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #218 on: July 23, 2006, 03:45:33 PM »
Johnny, yes I am a physician and I do work out.  In fact, I stress diet, exercise and weight loss to all of my patients.  However, I agree with you that most physicians do not practice what they preach; it does piss me off to see a physician smoke for instance.  However, I believe you are mistaking something grossly; medical science does not make blanket statements without scientific proof.  For instance, over 50% if Pima Indians are diabetic; this has been proven over and over again.  There is a known genetic basis for this.  Type 2 Diabetes has an exceedingly high genetic basis; thus, if your mom had it you are at increased risk.  Blacks are known to be at increased risk to be hypertensive; this has nothing to do with their conditioning.  There are genetic basis for both hypertension and diabetes.  Now, you use testosterone and only test.  Let us see, do you honestly think that if you run of the threadmill for thirty minutes a day it would prevent the negative cholesterol side effects.  The answer is no.  Also, exercise only decreases a patient's cholesterol by 15-20% max.  This has been studied.  Even world class athletes are on lipitor or zocor.  There is definitely a genetic basis. Here is a linky for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9537421

Now, let us say you dabble in GH.  You don't believe that an adult male with normal GH levels who takes in far more than is physiologically necessary will have side effects.  Yes, long term studies are few and far between, but when kids who take just a enough GH to boost growth (miniscule compared to pro BB) have an increased risk for diabetes that should raise your eyebrows.  GH does cause diabetes and I gurantee that if professional BB's who abused GH took routine bloodwork; this would come out.  BTW, even if an athlete has hypertension or diabetes do you really think they would let anyone but their physicians and immediate family to know.  No way as they are making a living doing this stuff.

Finally, do roids cause liver cancer? Well, once again you are uninformed.  Alzado did not die of AIDS.  He had a brain tumor.  Did steroids contribute to this.  We will never know, although I am sure they did not exactly slow down the cancer.  However, anabolics (especially oral steroids which require two passes in the liver) can cause cirrhosis and cancer.  Don't believe me, check out some links or just google it.  There are numerous journal articles that show your ignorance.  Word of mouth from your steroid dealers and buddies is not fact.  In fact, most steroid abusers are so in the dark that it is actually quite scary that they would consider injecting or ingesting this stuff without medical supervision.  It is stupid and dangerous.  At least if you use, get a qualified physician who is not judgemental to test you.  It is pretty easy.  Well, here is the last link.  Hope this clears up some of your misconceptions.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/SteroidAlert/SteroidAlert.html

Very good post.

Nico,
How do you feel about Doctors prescribing steroids when they are not medically necessary?

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #219 on: July 23, 2006, 04:18:20 PM »
At least if you use, get a qualified physician who is not judgemental to test you.


Yeah, good luck finding one of those!  ::)
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #220 on: July 23, 2006, 04:22:46 PM »
What a great sport bodybuilding has become. It is one sick joke. Anyone that posts encouraging the use of any sort of gear is irresponsible in the least.
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #221 on: July 23, 2006, 04:24:19 PM »
learn what?  Not to live life doing what you love? Some people live their whole lives wishing they had done this or that.  He died doing what he wanted to be doing.

Yeah at the ripe old age of 44.
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #222 on: July 23, 2006, 04:28:35 PM »
Johnny, yes I am a physician and I do work out.  In fact, I stress diet, exercise and weight loss to all of my patients.  However, I agree with you that most physicians do not practice what they preach; it does piss me off to see a physician smoke for instance.  However, I believe you are mistaking something grossly; medical science does not make blanket statements without scientific proof.  For instance, over 50% if Pima Indians are diabetic; this has been proven over and over again.  There is a known genetic basis for this.  Type 2 Diabetes has an exceedingly high genetic basis; thus, if your mom had it you are at increased risk.  Blacks are known to be at increased risk to be hypertensive; this has nothing to do with their conditioning.  There are genetic basis for both hypertension and diabetes.  Now, you use testosterone and only test.  Let us see, do you honestly think that if you run of the threadmill for thirty minutes a day it would prevent the negative cholesterol side effects.  The answer is no.  Also, exercise only decreases a patient's cholesterol by 15-20% max.  This has been studied.  Even world class athletes are on lipitor or zocor.  There is definitely a genetic basis. Here is a linky for you.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9537421

Now, let us say you dabble in GH.  You don't believe that an adult male with normal GH levels who takes in far more than is physiologically necessary will have side effects.  Yes, long term studies are few and far between, but when kids who take just a enough GH to boost growth (miniscule compared to pro BB) have an increased risk for diabetes that should raise your eyebrows.  GH does cause diabetes and I gurantee that if professional BB's who abused GH took routine bloodwork; this would come out.  BTW, even if an athlete has hypertension or diabetes do you really think they would let anyone but their physicians and immediate family to know.  No way as they are making a living doing this stuff.

Finally, do roids cause liver cancer? Well, once again you are uninformed.  Alzado did not die of AIDS.  He had a brain tumor.  Did steroids contribute to this.  We will never know, although I am sure they did not exactly slow down the cancer.  However, anabolics (especially oral steroids which require two passes in the liver) can cause cirrhosis and cancer.  Don't believe me, check out some links or just google it.  There are numerous journal articles that show your ignorance.  Word of mouth from your steroid dealers and buddies is not fact.  In fact, most steroid abusers are so in the dark that it is actually quite scary that they would consider injecting or ingesting this stuff without medical supervision.  It is stupid and dangerous.  At least if you use, get a qualified physician who is not judgemental to test you.  It is pretty easy.  Well, here is the last link.  Hope this clears up some of your misconceptions.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/SteroidAlert/SteroidAlert.html

Hi there, just wondering if you would throw up the link linking steroid use to liver cancer
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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #223 on: July 23, 2006, 04:29:28 PM »
True Adonis, I think you would literally have to go out of the US, as a physician who prescribes drugs (any drugs) without a legit reason could lose his license to practice medicine.  Anabolic steroids are also a class 3 DEA drug; a physician has to have a DEA number to prescribe it.  I would think with all of PC of lawmakers and such that any physician who suddenly started prescribing to his buddies would stand up and take notice.  Similar to physicians who were busted (and are getting busted all the time) for prescribing narcotics illegally. 

Goatboy, I agree that a physician would not support the use of anabolic steroids.  However, per doctor/patient confidentiality, he would have to keep that between himself and you.  For one thing,  he could monitor cholesterol and liver function testing.  He may preach to you about their dangers, but he would still treat you.  He is not law enforcement and can't bust you.  He has to treat people who abuse tobacco, drink excessively and use illicit drugs (cocaine, heroin, etc).  Thus, although I agree he may be somewhat judgemental, who gives a rat ass if he can at least inform you that you may be pushing things too far.  Ultimately, to wade in the world of steroids without knowing what its effects are to your body is akin to having unprotected sex with a street hooker in Tiajuana.  :o Peace all.

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Re: Another death in Bodybuilding
« Reply #224 on: July 23, 2006, 04:29:54 PM »
Yeah at the ripe old age of 44.
its horrible.
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