Author Topic: Can Dave Palumbo be held Responsible or liable for Anthony D'Arezzo DEATH?  (Read 23087 times)

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he sounds like a good ambassador of the sport.


In a small state like RI, everyone knows everyone sooner or later.  Especially gym rats.  It's like a fraternity, but because of allot of rats, one must be very careful who he trusts.  The guy you thought was your best friend could also be a narc and in a small state it isn't very hart to find sources.  There are only about 10 hardcore gyms in the state and Anthony was at them all one time or another, as most real lifters are.  I knew a kid 25 who was in the group who died in his sleep just a year ago.  6 years ago the kid was lucky to incline 135. Last time I saw him. He was competing in the NPC RI, gone for about 5 years because of poor attendance, He got sick the night before the show and spent the night on iv's because of dehydration.  Last time I saw him lifting He was inclining 4 plates per side on the smith.  The gyms were quiet this weekend with the question, How could someone who knew so much about body enhancement die.  Duh....We're playing with fire, blackmarket fire at that and no ones immune.  RIP Big man.
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Ant, never smile is right but if he saw you in the gym busting your ass or asked informative questions he would always take a minute and answer them. May have been a sarcastic answer first but he would always smirk and then tell you the right answer. He had a good clientele who trained with him for years, old and young, men or women. He was very intimidating especially standing next to him but was a great dude. He will certainly be missed around New England. I still am in complete shock and can't imagine what his family is going through. Big void left by his passing. An earlier posted stated he seemed like a good ambassador to the sport. That was right on. He loved this sport. Ate,slept, and now passed on in this sport. and the what if will always remain. He seemed to so want to get his Pro card back and may just have won this past weekend's show if......RIP Big Man.......

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TA, i was just in the porcelin room doing some thinking, and it popped into my head that the lack of a paper trail is what probably protects most gear gurus from being held accountable.

Doctors fill out a presciption which is likely Exhibit B in a trial (exhibit A being the deceased).  Gurus hand out a pill and some words.  Most likely, the family of the deceased doesn't even know what transpired between the two of them, and the guru sure isn't going to do any talking after the fact if anything shady did go on. 

As long as athletes agree to work in an environment where everything is UG or hushed, i think there will continue to be this lack of accountability.

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wow ! i didnt realize anthony had passed. i met him back in 98 when i was living  in ny. he was with craig licker at the time doing an appearance. anthony was very humble and willing to talk about anything. craig on the other hand....well i will just leave that alone..R.I.P Anthony

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I wasnt serious mike your arms are at least 17";) You knew anthony and the type of person he was, he was quite and didnt smile alot but he was a good guy and had his moments. I like how people say "how could you let him take them" Umm hes a 44 year old man and he will do whatever the f**k he please. Then again this is getbig and everyone is natural and 320

No that would be your home at GAY-HEM and your boyfriend Dante`, Intensemuslce.com

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TA, i was just in the porcelin room doing some thinking, and it popped into my head that the lack of a paper trail is what probably protects most gear gurus from being held accountable.

Doctors fill out a presciption which is likely Exhibit B in a trial (exhibit A being the deceased).  Gurus hand out a pill and some words.  Most likely, the family of the deceased doesn't even know what transpired between the two of them, and the guru sure isn't going to do any talking after the fact if anything shady did go on. 

As long as athletes agree to work in an environment where everything is UG or hushed, i think there will continue to be this lack of accountability.

There probably doesn`t need to be a paper trail though.  However,   Cell phone records and computer records and witnesses are probably abundant in this case.  Bodybuilders run in a tight network and if someone was to do some investigating, someone could probably be held accountable.



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wow ! i didnt realize anthony had passed. i met him back in 98 when i was living  in ny. he was with craig licker at the time doing an appearance. anthony was very humble and willing to talk about anything. craig on the other hand....well i will just leave that alone..R.I.P Anthony

do tell.................... ..i always found craig very friendly and outgoing

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craig (another boston boy)

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I don't get it.

He's got a heart condition.


And STILL juices?


WTF?

If this is a proper description of the situation, I don't see why people are focusing in on a bodybuilder.


He was obviously either a fcuking idit, or a guy who was psychologically addicted to AAS. A very tragic destiny.

So why celebrate his bodybuilding antics?


NEWSFLASH:

It's whats got him killed. K-I-L-L-E-D.

YIP
Zack
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Nobody forced him to take anything. Americans should take more responsibility for their own actions.

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craig (another boston boy)

Didn't Licker also have a heart problem?

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Didn't Licker also have a heart problem?

yes...............

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yes...............

I get it, I get it

it's the epidemic levels of advil usage in pro bb  ;D

He was an asshole? (Licker)

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well Mike A , craig just a little high maintaince for the few days i was around him. the gym owners went out of there way to take him out "clubbing" etc....and this cat was so uptight and prissy it was unreal. we were all supprised considering he was from mass, as you know typical upper east coast people arent like that. he just wasnt real personable even out away from the gym, not that he "has" to but when you are paying a pro to guest appear i guess you expect a little more.
  i also think at the time craig was going through some personal stuff, dont really remember exactly...i cant really say anything good so ill just leave it alone....
 where as anthony was real chill and talked about anything...just night and day.

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I have seen other cases in which a drug was given,administered or suggested to take by an individual and then when the indivudal dies, the other is held responsible.

Since Dave Palumbo was reportedly advising Anthony D` Arezzo, could he be in fact held liable or responsible for his death, either in a civil suit (Wrongful death,Negligence) or even a criminal case (2nd or 3rd degree murder,Criminal Negligence,involuntary manslaughter)?
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No he is not responsible. If you told someone to jump off the brooklin bridge and they died it would no be your fault. He was a big boy and he made his own decisions.

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"Buyer Beware".

Tell that to the woman who was awarded 3 million dollars over a cup of hot coffee from McDonald's in the mid 1990s.

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Tell that to the woman who was awarded 3 million dollars over a cup of hot coffee from McDonald's in the mid 1990s.
Thats cause the law in the states is ridiculous. In Canada they would have told her to shove that coffee up her ass and laughed her out of the court room.

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Tell that to the woman who was awarded 3 million dollars over a cup of hot coffee from McDonald's in the mid 1990s.

Actually that case was warranted.



There is a lot of hype about the McDonalds' scalding coffee case.  No
one is in favor of frivolous cases of outlandish results; however, it is
important to understand some points that were not reported in most of
the stories about the case.  McDonalds coffee was not only hot, it was
scalding -- capable of almost instantaneous destruction of skin, flesh
and muscle.  Here's the whole story.

Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of
her grandson's car when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in
February 1992.  Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served
in a styrofoam cup at the drivethrough window of a local McDonalds.

After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and
stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her
coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often
charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in
motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.)  Liebeck placed
the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from
the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled
into her lap.

The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next
to her skin.  A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full
thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body,
including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin
areas.  She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she
underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement
treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds
refused.

During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700
claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims
involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This
history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of
this hazard.

McDonalds also said during discovery that, based on a consultants
advice, it held its coffee at between 180 and 190 degrees fahrenheit to
maintain optimum taste.  He admitted that he had not evaluated the
safety ramifications at this temperature.  Other establishments sell
coffee at substantially lower temperatures, and coffee served at home is
generally 135 to 140 degrees.

Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company
actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185
degrees, plus or minus five degrees.  He also testified that a burn
hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above,
and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured
into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn
the mouth and throat.  The quality assurance manager admitted that burns
would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing
the "holding temperature" of its coffee.

Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin
burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full
thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds.  Other testimony
showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent
of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially.  Thus,
if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would
have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn.

McDonalds asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or
home, intending to consume it there. However, the companys own research
showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while
driving.

McDonalds also argued that consumers know coffee is hot and that its
customers want it that way.  The company admitted its customers were
unaware that they could suffer thirddegree burns from the coffee and
that a statement on the side of the cup was not a "warning" but a
"reminder" since the location of the writing would not warn customers of
the hazard.

The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages.  This amount
was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at
fault in the spill.  The jury also awarded Liebeck $2.7 million in
punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonalds' coffee
sales.

Post-verdict investigation found that the temperature of coffee at the
local Albuquerque McDonalds had dropped to 158 degrees fahrenheit.

The trial court subsequently reduced the punitive award to $480,000 --
or three times compensatory damages -- even though the judge called
McDonalds' conduct reckless, callous and willful.

No one will ever know the final ending to this case.

The parties eventually entered into a secret settlement which has never
been revealed to the public, despite the fact that this was a public
case, litigated in public and subjected to extensive media reporting.
Such secret settlements, after public trials, should not be condoned.

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I don't get it.

He's got a heart condition.


And STILL juices?


WTF?

If this is a proper description of the situation, I don't see why people are focusing in on a bodybuilder.


He was obviously either a fcuking idit, or a guy who was psychologically addicted to AAS. A very tragic destiny.

So why celebrate his bodybuilding antics?


NEWSFLASH:

It's whats got him killed. K-I-L-L-E-D.

YIP
Zack


Exactly. Nobody questions the stupidity involved. They just say things like, "he was doing what he loved" or "he died on his terms".  ::)

NO one that enjoys life, that loves living.....would put themselves in such a situation.
HAHA, RON.....