The Official End To ANY Ronnie Bashing...

[vein-x]

Almost every night, if I get the time, I come on here and troll around looking at the new threads. A lot piss me off but I don't say anything. To date I've probably read over 10 seperate threads claiming ridiculous shit like "RonNie DeaD!! TrICEp IS FcKed! JAy WinS!!" and just roll my eyes.

Right now it's getting a little to late too put up with this shit. Every one of these 'Ronnie Is Fucked' threads have bad pictures, usually with bad lighting, that claim Ronnie has ripped his tricep off the bone and he's all done. Let me give you a picture with the WORLD'S best lightning in the Professional Bodybuilding World from the same distance from camera to competitor.

RONNIE 2005 OLYMPIA:

**EDIT**  This is an acual picture from the 2005 Mr. Olympia. I'm sorry I mixed it up last time, it's 2:00am here and my insomnia isn't helping select the greatest comparison shots. Anyway, the reason I pick this shot- Even at his PEAK during the Olympia, you can clearly see the left tricep is already a little smaller than the right. Couple that with the fact that he takes THREE months off immediately following this show and you can see where rumors and scares could form.

-VS-

NOW... this is hardly even THREE DAYS OLD. For all the dumbass keyboard-critics out there, please, PLEASE shut me up and prove me wrong. Actually, why don't you point out a DIFFERENCE between the 2005 picture and the 2006 picture.. please.


Here's the real kicker for all the people that'll STILL try to slam Big Ron... not only is it damn near the exact same distance from the camera... it's the same fucking pose!! Look how his hands are placed exactly in the same place below his hips. If ANYTHING, he looks a *little* bigger in the 2006 shot (yeah yeah, I know water and off-season, get off my dick)

Any pussies still wanna take a shot? Shoot down Ol' Ronnie? Despite how this post may sound I'm open-minded and looking forward to a solid, and educated, point with photos to back any points made.

Sorry for my minor meltdown, but I'm getting a little tired of the pantie waste fuckbags whose BIG 3 doesn't add up to Ronnie's squat pointing this and that out with literally ZERO ground for basis.

vein-x

[candidate2025]

that was an extremely good first post. welcome aboard....hopefully you can take over the position of official ronnie fan......as our local "hulkster" has recently betrayed the big man ...im guessing from ND pushing him too often.

[Outlaw53]

Maybe it's just me, but you couldn't have picked two worse photos to show off the guy's physique.  I find them both very unflattering, regardless of the light.

[airrick]

dude, fucking relax!!! read some threads by vince, it'll calm you down!

[rocket]

You might have a point.

But then of course some pro's have already confirmed that he's fine so ah, yeh.. somewhat moot.

As for the end of ANY ronnie bashing, why you would post such an overt example of the crux of his criticism (his unsightly gut) and claim that you had just ended Ronnie bashing I don't know. 

It just doesn't make sense and personally, I suspect you have a Vince G like level of delusion if you think you've just vindicated him completely 

[Cool Black Clyde]

The 1st photo wasn't from the O.  It was offseason from earlier this year.

[brianX]

It's all over for him. He'll be eating donuts in a patrol car this time next year.

[vein-x]

that was an extremely good first post. welcome aboard....hopefully you can take over the position of official ronnie fan......as our local "hulkster" has recently betrayed the big man ...im guessing from ND pushing him too often.

I appreciate the welcome bro 

I would take the 'Official #1 Ronnie Fan' from Hulk gladly, lemme know if it's still up for grabs..

Maybe it's just me, but you couldn't have picked two worse photos to show off the guy's physique.  I find them both very unflattering, regardless of the light.

As I said (and I intend to stick to my word 100%) I have an open-mind and I actually read and comprehend the posts from users I don't wanna fucking kill, and since you're not in that group I'll gladly shoot the shit with you...

To be brutally honest.... I agree with you. I'm THE self proclaimed #1 Ronnie fan (he got me into lifting 2 years ago) but I'm not a closed-minded ignorant bastard.. and I agree with you. The gut needs to be brought under control a LITTLE better than last year and I'm off Ronnie for that. But until then I'll be the first to say that's a major flaw of his (and quite possibly one of, if not THE, only one)

Ronnie has indicated earlier in the year that in an effort to keep a check on the gut he'll be using a new 'secret' strategy - a lifting belt every waking hour for a few days out of the week. Now don't quote me on this but I BELIEVE it was Chad Nichols who recommended he do this and if it came from Chad, it would be in Ronnie's best interest to heed the advice.


Again, PLEASE feel free to discuss/debate/bitch about this with me. I truly love bodybuilding and in a perfect world, I'll be up there on a pro stage some day. In my "quest" for pro status I take it upon myself to get the best and most reputable information available and that's all you'll hear from me. Thanks Candidate again for the welcome. I'm here often bro so keep on the look out for more quality posts from me a lot more frequently around here.

[vein-x]

The 1st photo wasn't from the O.  It was offseason from earlier this year.

You're 100% right man, I completely fucked up in this one! Thanks for calling me on it.

Although, do you see a tricep problem there either way?

[Hulkster]

the title of number 1 Ronnie fan is not up for grabs.

Ronnie is still king, but I have to question his mentality of shooting for 300 pounds.

At this stage in the game, shooting for a number is meaningless.

He already has the size.

he needs to concentrate on the detail.

And, in my opinion, going for 300 pounds on stage is not the best way to do this.

I think most would agree.

this is not "Ronnie bashing" - after all, I am getbigs number one ronnie fan!

This is simply a fear that 2004 (where he was holding lots of water compared to 2003 and 2005) may happen all over again.
But, as Ronnie's most devoted patron, I want to see him win his 9th Olympia in amazing shape. Not just "barely getting by or "should have lost" like Dorian in 1997..

and given his past history of "bigger generally looks worse" 300 pounds may not be the best way to approach this.

I, unlike ND, can be realistic and fanatical at the same time

[rocket]

You'll need to post more pics than one pose in off season condition.

Not that I think there is a problem, I'm just saying if you want to confront the issue you're going to need to be a little more "complete" with your case.  A front double bi and side triceps would probably be a better indication.  But many injuries can be hidden until conditioning is good anyway.  If there is one it would likely be subtle.

But as I said, I'm pretty sure someone (a pro) confirmed it was basically nothing.

[vein-x]

Ronnie is still king, but I have to question his mentality of shooting for 300 pounds.

He already has the size.

This is simply a fear that 2004 (where he was holding lots of water compared to 2003 and 2005) may happen all over again. But, as Ronnie's most devoted patron, I want to see him win his 9th Olympia in amazing shape. Not just "barely getting by or "should have lost" like Dorian in 1997.[/b]

I, unlike ND, can be realistic and fanatical at the same time

Very solid post with very solid points. I agree with you bro, and I can see there is already a resident #1 Ronnie fan. Maybe we can work something out where you take the weekends off and I'll take over command for ya 

You'll need to post more pics than one pose in off season condition.

Not that I think there is a problem, I'm just saying if you want to confront the issue you're going to need to be a little more "complete" with your case.  A front double bi and side triceps would probably be a better indication.   But many injuries can be hidden until conditioning is good anyway.  If there is one it would likely be subtle.

But as I said, I'm pretty sure someone (a pro) confirmed it was basically nothing.

Fair enough, I can see your point. At your request, perhaps this'll help you see what I mean...?



The color only highlights my point further. If you're going to tell me you can't CLEARLY see that the left arm is smaller than the right one, I'm afraid there's nothing left I can show you...

[phyxsius]

as our local "hulkster" has recently betrayed the big man ...im guessing from ND pushing him too often.

Hulkster is now looking for a new pair of nuts to suck at

[HUGEPECS]

he ate crumbs from ronnie's table

[body88]

Haha what a cock sucking ass kisser.

[rocket]

The color only highlights my point further. If you're going to tell me you can't CLEARLY see that the left arm is smaller than the right one, I'm afraid there's nothing left I can show you...

I understand that you've only been into this stuff for a couple of years so I'll do you the favour of introducing you to the concept of bodybuilding picture subtlety.

Whilst it might seem like you've picked an overt example here of disparity you have to appreciate the minor details that make this so (and make it crucial for you to use multiple photos of the same pose if you're going to make a point)

1.  He is clearly flexing his right arm more. 
2.  The picture is taken from a slight angle which means you cannot see the full left arm front on, as you can with the right. 
3.  Look at how his hands are orientated, big difference.  Hence the crazy forearm size difference.
4.  The lighting is more kind to the detail in his right arm, are you suggesting his left arm is less detailed also?

And you might shrug these things off as minor but they are the primary reasons you are seeing a difference.  I have a feeling if I were to load up photoshop I would find that the pixel size difference in bicep peak to tricep would be similar anyway.  Its an optical illusion and why you never use one picture.

[Bronx]

Now don't quote me on this but I BELIEVE it was Chad Nichols who recommended he do this and if it came from Chad, it would be in Ronnie's best interest to heed the advice.

I was with you, not in agreeance, but at least in listening your point, up until this sentence....then you killed any credibility I thought you had.

[Playboy]

Almost every night, if I get the time, I come on here and troll around looking at the new threads. A lot piss me off but I don't say anything. To date I've probably read over 10 seperate threads claiming ridiculous shit like "RonNie DeaD!! TrICEp IS FcKed! JAy WinS!!" and just roll my eyes.

Right now it's getting a little to late too put up with this shit. Every one of these 'Ronnie Is Fucked' threads have bad pictures, usually with bad lighting, that claim Ronnie has ripped his tricep off the bone and he's all done. Let me give you a picture with the WORLD'S best lightning in the Professional Bodybuilding World from the same distance from camera to competitor.

RONNIE 2005 OLYMPIA:

**EDIT**  This is an acual picture from the 2005 Mr. Olympia. I'm sorry I mixed it up last time, it's 2:00am here and my insomnia isn't helping select the greatest comparison shots. Anyway, the reason I pick this shot- Even at his PEAK during the Olympia, you can clearly see the left tricep is already a little smaller than the right. Couple that with the fact that he takes THREE months off immediately following this show and you can see where rumors and scares could form.

-VS-

NOW... this is hardly even THREE DAYS OLD. For all the dumbass keyboard-critics out there, please, PLEASE shut me up and prove me wrong. Actually, why don't you point out a DIFFERENCE between the 2005 picture and the 2006 picture.. please.


Here's the real kicker for all the people that'll STILL try to slam Big Ron... not only is it damn near the exact same distance from the camera... it's the same fucking pose!! Look how his hands are placed exactly in the same place below his hips. If ANYTHING, he looks a *little* bigger in the 2006 shot (yeah yeah, I know water and off-season, get off my dick)

Any pussies still wanna take a shot? Shoot down Ol' Ronnie? Despite how this post may sound I'm open-minded and looking forward to a solid, and educated, point with photos to back any points made.

Sorry for my minor meltdown, but I'm getting a little tired of the pantie waste fuckbags whose BIG 3 doesn't add up to Ronnie's squat pointing this and that out with literally ZERO ground for basis.

vein-x

Agreed 100%. I know how to end the bashing...count Ronnie's Sandows. The end!

[littleguns]

Welcome aboard!

If I had a dime for everytime I state what I am about to write....

If Ronnie shows up he wins....regardless of his conditioning...

The last 3 Mr Olympia's, Haney, Dorian and now ROnnie have never been dethroned and that makes up what? 20 yrs of champions.....Not to say they weren't in tip top shape but we can all list a few years where these champs shouldn't have won!

Case closed....You know I'm right!

[njflex]

I'M not a fan of his but he is stupid big,and will be in his usual shape,cutler look's like he lives,breaths,bbing like gaspari once did.just come's up short due to genetic's that coleman has .

[kiwiol]

This is simply a fear that 2004 (where he was holding lots of water compared to 2003 and 2005) may happen all over again.

Hulkster com'on bro, I don't believe I'm telling you this, but the water-laden look Ronnie sported onstage on the 2004 Olympia had nothing to do with his weight - it was due to some last minute mistake. At the press conference of the same Olympia (the previous day), he was just as heavy, but was extremely dry and shredded. So, I don't think his weight has much to do with his being out of condition.

As for the gut, again, I've said in the past that that is more due to Ronnie being careless enough to fail keeping it in check, rather than being unable to do so. When he came up to the centre of the stage both in the 2004 and 2005 in the challenge round and kept his mid-section tense (due to expecting for an ab-thigh callout), he had no distention. But at other times, he wasn't so much focused on keeping it taut, which caused it to distend.

[Adam Empire]

that was an extremely good first post. welcome aboard....

sure...  yeah...  sounds more like this "new" member is either a second account or changed name...

[Yev33]

I am a fan of Ronnie's but it's pretty clear that something is going on with his triceps, especially the left one. A rear lat-spread, front and rear double bi's are not tricep poses and therefore hide this. When he hits a side triceps and a most muscular you can clearly see that his tri's are not what they used to be. Ronnie's triceps were never his best body part but they used to be good, I remember when he had clear striations in the side tricep pose. Something happened and from what it looks like this problem can't be fixed anytime soon.

[delta9mda]

it wont end with this

[Playboy]

it wont end with this

As if Cutler, Ruhl, Gunter, Federov and Warren don't have that. Means nothing anymore considering all the weird lumps & bumps plus GH pots that they're allowing.