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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #275 on: July 27, 2006, 07:49:02 PM »
Holy shit are you delusional!
Go back to playing cops and robbers in your neat little vest and gun...

LOL... then argue my points, Bob.  I think they present a pretty good argument for the PDI being in very good shape for a startup with zero history! 


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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #276 on: July 27, 2006, 07:51:33 PM »
Holy shit are you delusional!

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #277 on: July 27, 2006, 07:55:48 PM »
Holy shit are you delusional!

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #278 on: July 27, 2006, 07:56:41 PM »
The noc will probably go on with it's current lineup,it's new and will draw some interest.difference is ifbb has more competitor's and higher quality too ,so if a few big names dropped off it would still have enough big names too draw from,pdi dosen't have that yet ???

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #279 on: July 27, 2006, 08:01:02 PM »
Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.

I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:

1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.

Finally, Bob, it's a startup!  Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream?  It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it!   It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely!  It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.

Bob, it's a brand new gig!!!  They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option.  No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it.  No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.

Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now.  They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet!  You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!

All kidding, insults, and past battles aside - the thought of a startup having this much going for it - before ever having its first show - you gotta admit it's a tad impressive.  I know many of us would like to see it topple the Olympia on the night of show one.  But that won't happen.  And that's okay.  

The PDI has a good start.  You had flipflopper Vince Taylor change his mind (the same vince that accused the IFBB masters judges of some terrible things, I believe).  You had Vinny Galanti - a man with awesome shape - get hurt.  Stuff happens.  But you have Lee, the most popular Bber not named Coleman, and you have a lot of good guys battling for #2.  You don't know what the top 5 will look like.  You don't know who the top 10 will be.

Bottom line is, Bob, why do you spend so much time dissing something that is so fledgling, so new, and just getting off the ground?  I know you said last night "I've never said anything bad about the PDI", but everyone sees you "calling it like you see it" by insulting quality of athletes, questioning prize money, badmouthing wayne, etc.  

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #280 on: July 27, 2006, 08:06:53 PM »
No problem..I'll take "0 credibility" for $1,000, Alex...




Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.

I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:

1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.

Finally, Bob, it's a startup!  Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream?  It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it!   It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely!  It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.

Bob, it's a brand new gig!!!  They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option.  No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it.  No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.

Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now.  They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet!  You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!

1. Nothing to substanciate the claim of being "almost sold out", more likely comp-city USA

2.One top name guy is pathetic, and indicative of the interest level from other Pro's...

3.10 "very good athletes?"...a few at best, a few less this week, and a few amateurs that couldn't even QUALIFY for the NPC nationals/ USA...

4.Fyers/ postcards...great. We've all seen them.

5.It's a household name allright, and not in a flattering way...Andrea Yates is a household name also.

6.According to the PDI supporters...BEN ran the IFBB, Wayne was only doing what he was told, right?

People have always had a morbid sense of curiosity...no different than slowing down to see a trainwreck up ahead...tens of thousands of BB fans are talking about it, not in a good way.

Still not a judge named, an official named (other than Wayne), sponsors named, zero accounting of any quest posing/ PDI athletes, European promoters verifying they have nothing to do with these alleged shows, two "qualifiers" already canceled, James Goad named as one of the PDI promoters despite stiffing then IFBB guys in his only show, 2 previous attempts to start this new federation failed to even get this far......

Nice try, though....


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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #281 on: July 27, 2006, 08:16:51 PM »
Still not a judge named, an official named (other than Wayne), sponsors named, zero accounting of any quest posings/ PDI athletes, European promoters verifying they have nothing to do with these alleged shows, two "qualifiers" already canceled, James Goad named as one of the PDI promoters despite stiffing then IFBB guys in his only show, 2 pevious attempts to start this new federation failed to even get this far......

Those qualifiers weren't cancelled! They were rescheduled!

Rescheduled!!!   :'(

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #282 on: July 27, 2006, 08:26:20 PM »
1. Nothing to substanciate the claim of being "almost sold out", more likely comp-city usa
You don't think Wayne DeMilia can sell 1500 tix to a pro show in NY?   What planet are you on?

2.One top name guy is pathetic, and indicitive of the interest level from other Pro's...

Wait, one top IFBB pro, who has been around the block, willing to put all his eggs into the PDI basket, before a single show- that's pathetic?  Lee's been a pro a lot longer than you have Bob.  Maybe his experience and knowledge of pro BBing and politics are greater than yours, we don't know.  There ARE other pros interested, Bob.   THEY JUST DON'T TELL YOU!  I don't get this.  I speak to guys and they ask me what I know, who is going, who is rumored, etc... and everyone knows the Dexster was going til he got a promise that Christmas was coming in October ;) ;)

3.10 "very good athletes?"...a few at best, a few less this week, and a few amateurs that couldn't even QUALIFY for the NPC nationals/ USA...

Have you seen TJ or Sami lately?  Shit, Bob, they are taking it to a higher level without weight classes!   The guys are 10% less than IFBB pros, sure.  but their waists are 10% smaller too.

5.It's a household name allright, and not in a flattering way...Andrea Yates is aa householsd name also.

And when Andrea yates writes her book, she will earn a $5M signing bonus. This is a fact.  If the PDI had no chance, we all woudl have talked about it for a week and dropped it.  It's been 6 months now and it's still the top topic.

6.According to the PDI supporters...BEN ran the IFBB, Wayne was only doing what he was told, right?

LMAO... Wayne ran more shows than anyone else ever did, Bob.  Wayne made the O a spectacular event. You guys can't even get a hotel with microwaves.

People have always had a morbid sense of curiosity...no different than slowing down to see a trainwreck up ahead...tens of thousanda of BB fans are talking about it, not in a good way.

Ah, Bob.  You see it as a train wreck because you are a blueblood IFBB lifer.  You schmooze with them, you blindly support them, and you are not trusted by your peers.  

Know this, Bob.
They. Do. not. Trust. You.


There are thousands of people, who you call the peanut gallery, who are very interested to see what kinda cool scoreboard and stageshow the PDI puts on.  Will Lee get trumped by a very good Sami with a better posing routine?  it's 20% of the score.  Judging reform. we like that.  Aesthetics.  Can't wait.  Get the pulse of the ppl - many here, and on many other boards, are very excited to see an alternative to a 9th Coleman win!

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #283 on: July 27, 2006, 08:38:47 PM »
By the way Bob, all insults and jabs aside, you are fun to debate these topics with.  A nice mental exercise, the issues are really explored, and it really does make people think about the issues on a higher level.  So I hope there are no hard feelings about these debates.  I am having some fun with it, I hope you are too!

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« Reply #284 on: July 27, 2006, 08:39:33 PM »
MONSTER talk with Wayne to concoct your response.

#6 - 240, Bob nailed you on. You and onlyme need to have a conference call with Wayne, so you're all on the same page when you state your claims.


Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.

I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:

1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.

Finally, Bob, it's a startup!  Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream?  It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it!   It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely!  It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.

Bob, it's a brand new gig!!!  They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option.  No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it.  No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.

Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now.  They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet!  You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!
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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #285 on: July 27, 2006, 08:43:25 PM »
1. Nothing to substantiate the claim of being "almost sold out", more likely comp-city USA
You don't think Wayne DeMilia can sell 1500 tix to a pro show in NY?   What planet are you on?

2.One top name guy is pathetic, and indicative of the interest level from other Pro's...

Wait, one top IFBB pro, who has been around the block, willing to put all his eggs into the PDI basket, before a single show- that's pathetic?  Lee's been a pro a lot longer than you have Bob.  Maybe his experience and knowledge of pro BBing and politics are greater than yours, we don't know.  There ARE other pros interested, Bob.   THEY JUST DON'T TELL YOU!  I don't get this.  I speak to guys and they ask me what I know, who is going, who is rumored, etc... and everyone knows the Dexster was going til he got a promise that Christmas was coming in October ;) ;)

3.10 "very good athletes?"...a few at best, a few less this week, and a few amateurs that couldn't even QUALIFY for the NPC nationals/ USA...

Have you seen TJ or Sami lately?  Shit, Bob, they are taking it to a higher level without weight classes!   The guys are 10% less than IFBB pros, sure.  but their waists are 10% smaller too.

5.It's a household name allright, and not in a flattering way...Andrea Yates is aa households name also.

And when Andrea Yates writes her book, she will earn a $5M signing bonus. This is a fact.  If the PDI had no chance, we all woudl have talked about it for a week and dropped it.  It's been 6 months now and it's still the top topic.

6.According to the PDI supporters...BEN ran the IFBB, Wayne was only doing what he was told, right?

LMAO... Wayne ran more shows than anyone else ever did, Bob.  Wayne made the O a spectacular event. You guys can't even get a hotel with microwaves.

People have always had a morbid sense of curiosity...no different than slowing down to see a trainwreck up ahead...tens of thousanda of BB fans are talking about it, not in a good way.

Ah, Bob.  You see it as a train wreck because you are a blueblood IFBB lifer.  You schmooze with them, you blindly support them, and you are not trusted by your peers. 

Know this, Bob.
They. Do. not. Trust. You.


There are thousands of people, who you call the peanut gallery, who are very interested to see what kinda cool scoreboard and stageshow the PDI puts on.  Will Lee get trumped by a very good Sami with a better posing routine?  it's 20% of the score.  Judging reform. we like that.  Aesthetics.  Can't wait.  Get the pulse of the ppl - many here, and on many other boards, are very excited to see an alternative to a 9th Coleman win!

1. No, I don't think Wayne can SELL 1500+ with that line-up...apparently, neither do the sponsors )or lack thereof)

2. If there are so many guys interested...WHERE ARE THEY? My point was that 1 guy signed is pathetic, not that Lee is...there's no disputing lee's accomplishments, too bad he'll be wasting them beating a bunch of amateurs.

3.What "higher level" is that? If you can't turn pro against the best amateurs...?

4.Wayne also gave the athletes placing below 10th ZERO dollars, thought they didn't deserve it...allegedly, the same guys YOUR fighting for

5. Wayne also put on the last NOC...you remember, the one with the Denise masino S&M, Kenny Jones/ child molestation parody which was booed off the stage?

6. Posing actually represents 40% of the scoring in the PDI....may the best poser win, forget about physiques.


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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #286 on: July 27, 2006, 08:43:41 PM »
MONSTER talk with Wayne to concoct your response.

#6 - 240, Bob nailed you on. You and onlyme need to have a conference call with Wayne, so you're all on the same page when you state your claims.

Honestly, no, no conference call and I never claimed to have great knowledge of how Wayne ran things.  If it sucked, I don't know why he lasted, that's all I can really bring to that.  If he worked for almost 2 decades, then he either did a decent job, or they are the most ineffective owners in the history of the universe, to allow a person to run a multi-million dollar enterprise for 20 years, even though he was incompetent.  

My guess? Wayne did a good enough job running shows for them to make their money, or they would have replaced him.  That is how things work, right?  I love the way everyone disses him, but he worked there fore just so long, it's hard to believe he was incompetent.  Maybe he left some bridges burning, I have no clue!  But to question his ability to run a few shows, that's just silliness :)

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
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« Reply #288 on: July 27, 2006, 08:50:15 PM »
Honestly, no, no conference call and I never claimed to have great knowledge of how Wayne ran things.  If it sucked, I don't know why he lasted, that's all I can really bring to that.  If he worked for almost 2 decades, then he either did a decent job, or they are the most ineffective owners in the history of the universe, to allow a person to run a multi-million dollar enterprise for 20 years, even though he was incompetent. 

My guess? Wayne did a good enough job running shows for them to make their money, or they would have replaced him.  That is how things work, right?  I love the way everyone disses him, but he worked there fore just so long, it's hard to believe he was incompetent.  Maybe he left some bridges burning, I have no clue!  But to question his ability to run a few shows, that's just silliness :)
Wayne can promote, just not bodybuilding on his own, in my opinion. He's not a stupid guy by any means, but he should put the grudge aside and move on. I was at the Gracie Fighting Championships he helped promote at the ASC, it had more people there then at any bodybuilding show. He should stick to promoting fights and not bodybuilding.
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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #290 on: July 27, 2006, 08:53:31 PM »
"fat piece blob"?


have you seen yourself lately, you fat piece of shit

you are ova 400 lbs with 30 % bf

look in the mirror

Im ready to dump a clip in this stupid f**k onlyme



haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun.  See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass.  Another wannabe.  Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately.  Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up.  This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth.  No picture, no name just a gay monicker.  Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer.  srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #291 on: July 27, 2006, 08:55:51 PM »
haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun.  See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass.  Another wannabe.  Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately.  Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up.  This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth.  No picture, no name just a gay monicker.  Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer.  srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #292 on: July 27, 2006, 09:00:53 PM »
haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun.  See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass.  Another wannabe.  Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately.  Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up.  This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth.  No picture, no name just a gay monicker.  Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer.  srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.
Keith sounds like you need a big ol' Shawn Ray Super Sized Hug.

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #293 on: July 27, 2006, 09:03:29 PM »
Keith sounds like you need a big ol' Shawn Ray Super Sized Hug.
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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #294 on: July 27, 2006, 09:17:05 PM »
Again the problem with the IFBB is the monopoly the Weider's have made it to be. They suck all the money for themselves leaving it hindered and barely able to survive.

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #295 on: July 27, 2006, 09:21:19 PM »


Xtreme Challenge Sports & Fitness Expo
August 11 & 12, 2006
University of Central Florida
Orlando Florida

http://www.xtreme-usa.com/orlando/prodivision.htm


http://www.xtreme-usa.com/orlando.htm
According to the website nothing has changed. Rob there is still time for you to enter those guns of yous!  ;)
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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #296 on: July 27, 2006, 09:22:25 PM »
According to the website nothing has changed.


We held it and didn't invite you  ;D

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« Reply #297 on: July 27, 2006, 09:23:37 PM »
We held it and didn't invite you  ;D
Must be some sort of crazy PDI time warp machine. Who qualified and did they drop out of the NOC yet?

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #298 on: July 27, 2006, 09:33:00 PM »
Must be some sort of crazy PDI time warp machine. Who qualified and did they drop out of the NOC yet?

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The problem is, the invitation contained a small economics puzzle, requiring basic understanding of monopoly/free market competition concepts on a 7th grade level.

Many are still decoding it.

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Re: NOC takes another hit - Vinny Galanti is out
« Reply #299 on: July 27, 2006, 09:41:33 PM »
easy there, Keith

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