Author Topic: 1975 SERGE NUBRET REASON FOR LOSING TO ARNOLD REVEALED!!!!! (Read 33991 times)

MisterGX · « **Reply #50 on:** August 08, 2006, 01:12:06 PM »

Quote from: Armageddon on July 28, 2006, 02:03:39 AM

Why was Serge suspended??
In pumping iron they said “an unexpected entrée”

Doing porno films in France.

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #51 on:** August 08, 2006, 01:25:44 PM »

When Ed fakes dropping to the floor squatting after Arnold tells him to do 2 more is cheesy. You can tell Arnold was like quit the BS.

alexxx · « **Reply #52 on:** August 08, 2006, 01:27:42 PM »

Quote from: MisterGX on August 08, 2006, 01:09:51 PM

I remember debating with some idiot in my gym years back, and he felt that Nubret should have beaten Arnold at the '75 Olympia w/no legs & no back in comparison to Arnold. If you remember the pump-up room scene in Pumping Iron, you see Nubret looking at Arnold & saying "No One Can Beat You". Arnold replied "Yeah--Good Looking".

hahaha thats what I heard too.

gracie bjj · « **Reply #53 on:** August 08, 2006, 01:33:09 PM »

i thought arnold said keep looking?

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #54 on:** August 08, 2006, 02:01:13 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 27, 2006, 05:32:12 PM

NOT BAD FOR 60!!!

And just think, Arnold just turned 59 last week!!!

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #55 on:** August 08, 2006, 02:03:35 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on July 27, 2006, 05:34:56 PM

Forearms looks weak in that photo.

It's the way the pic was scanned from a magazine (they're not that weak)

Disgusted · « **Reply #56 on:** August 08, 2006, 02:22:14 PM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on August 08, 2006, 12:12:13 PM

In all fairness to arnold...those pics you see of him at the beach was right after open heart surgery and being hospitalized. Some idiot photographer took the pic and it was sensationalized. He was in great shape again a few months later. Even in the post hospital state near 60, you can see he has a big structure/wide shoulders, etc.

Serge had a fantastic physique and looked phenominal in his later years...something I hope we'll see continue with BBers from our era.

Actually it was after he had rotator cuff surgery that was done after T3. He hurt it during the fliming of T3. Either way, he still looks great. Funny thing is he always about 8 weeks away from making all of us look bad.

Hulkster · « **Reply #57 on:** August 08, 2006, 04:05:42 PM »

serge was amazing, but he really needed to learn how to pose without looking like he was jerking off in every pic.

seriously.

Bast000 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 08, 2006, 05:41:11 PM »

sgt. d · « **Reply #59 on:** August 08, 2006, 06:06:28 PM »

Quote from: Bast000 on August 08, 2006, 05:41:11 PM

arnold who?

airrick · « **Reply #60 on:** August 08, 2006, 06:44:34 PM »

Stupid crybabies!!!

Why do people cry after they lose? shit.. take it as is and work harder for next time!

Freakin cry babies!

wah wah wah .... arnold this arnold that... wah wah.. sounds like mike mentzer!

THEBERG · « **Reply #61 on:** August 08, 2006, 08:11:01 PM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 08, 2006, 07:19:53 AM

Would Serge have won in '75 if that story hadn't happened (if it even did), who knows? But I believe these are the pics of what he looked like a few weeks before the alleged incident and he DOES look monstrous for Serge (yet, his waist is as small as ever).

Compare this to what he looked like in the contest and it's pretty impressive:

Serge does look better in the first pics but it makes me think of how Dennis James looks like a few weeks out before the big day.

alexxx · « **Reply #62 on:** August 08, 2006, 08:16:43 PM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 08, 2006, 07:19:53 AM

Would Serge have won in '75 if that story hadn't happened (if it even did), who knows? But I believe these are the pics of what he looked like a few weeks before the alleged incident and he DOES look monstrous for Serge (yet, his waist is as small as ever).

Compare this to what he looked like in the contest and it's pretty impressive:

Great observation! Damn he looks crazy in those pictures but Arnold still had the size. We will never know I guess.

Matt C · « **Reply #63 on:** August 09, 2006, 11:30:34 AM »

Playboy · « **Reply #64 on:** August 09, 2006, 12:01:32 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on July 27, 2006, 05:16:03 PM

Quote from: mtwain on July 25, 2006, 02:17:03 PM
I first saw Serge in Pumping Iron when I was just a kid. A friend of mine who was an Arnold fan and just got his driving license took me to see the movie. I didn't know much about bodybuilding and didn't have a trained eye. In other words, I couldn't really see much of a difference between Arnold, Lou, Franco, Katz, Waller.... Franco seemed more stocky than the others but everybody just looked huge and freaky. I couldn't see how anybody could tell how one was better than the other. Then when they introduced the "unexpected entry" as they zoomed in on Serge's abs as it rose and contracted as he breathed my jaw just dropped! I just turned to my friend and said, "My God! Look at that guy!" This guy to me was different. He stood out. To say Serge was stunning only understates the case. Standing relaxed (That's it, Serge. That's the position we want.) he had that look of noble magnificence that inspired pure awe to my virgin bodybuilding eyes. I wanted to tell Arnold, "He looks like he can take you."

I wonder, Serge, what your opinion of Arnold was. Although most of us, including myself, are fans of Arnold we know that he has a dark side. So don't hold back. Give us the real dirt. I figure if I was competing at that time I would have hated him. It's like he controlled everything.

THAT IS ARNOLD, HE LIKE TO CONTROL PEOPLE, BUT NOT ME, AND HE KNEW IT.
WITH ME ARNOLD HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD FREIND IN THE SPORT, BUT NOT IN
POLITIC OF THE SPORT FIRST, AS I DID CREATED MY OWN INTERNATIONAL
FEDERATION "WABBA" BECAUSE I WAS NOT AGREED WITH THE WAY "IFBB" WAS
RUNNING BY WEIDER IN SOME DICTATORIAL WAY. BUT ARNOLD DID NOT EVEN
CARE, AS FARE HE CARE ABOUT HIMSELF, HE WAS WEIDER BEST FREIND.
POLITIC...POLITIC..AS GOVERNOR, IT IS NOT MY WAY TO SEE THE WORLD AS
BUSH SSEING IT. I CANNOT BELEIVE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT "U.N" UNITED
NATION. ANYWAY THAT IS HIS PROBLEM.

YES I HAVE BEING TRAINING IN SOME WAY THAT I WILL NOT LOOK LIKE ANY
BODY ELSE AND TRY TO BE UNIC. BUT YOU MUST KNOW THAT IN SOUTH AFRICA
WHERE THE CONTEST WAS HELDED, WHEN THE WEIDER'S TEAM SAW ME THEY
SUSPENDED ME OF THE COMPETION, IT IS ONLY 12 DAYS LATER, AFTER ALL THE
COUNTRIES SAID THAT IF "SERGE NUBRET" IS SUSPENDED, NOBODY WILL COMPETE
SO AFTER 12 DAYS OF NEGOCIATIONS WEIDER HAS TO ADMIT THAT HE LOSS, I DO
NOT KNOW IF ARNOLD WAS BEHIND THAT ALL THING. ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THAT I
DID NOT TRAINED FOR 12 DAYS, I LOST 12 POUNDS AND I WAS LESS SHARP. NO
WAY ARNOLD WILL TAKE ME WITH THOSE 12 POUNDS MORE AND MORE SHARP. I AM
WRITING THE ALL STORY IN MY BOOK, AND MORE ABOUT ARNOLD.

SERGE NUBRET

Now somebody be nice enough and go get all the pics of serge from that thread on ironage.us especially the 19 year old one and paste them here thanks!

Serge was great. Very defined and very muscular.

PB

Hurricane Beef ! · « **Reply #65 on:** August 09, 2006, 12:58:55 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on July 27, 2006, 06:12:03 PM

Bill Pearl!

Bill Pearl has and so did Leo Stern commented on Bill's use of Halo and Test. I also believe he used DBol.

Bill Pearl is not clean through out his career.

the Beef

gracie bjj · « **Reply #66 on:** August 09, 2006, 01:04:48 PM »

both pearl and reeves did alittle dbol back in their days

donrhummy · « **Reply #67 on:** August 10, 2006, 08:25:03 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on August 08, 2006, 08:16:43 PM

Great observation! Damn he looks crazy in those pictures but Arnold still had the size. We will never know I guess.

Sure, but Serge wasn't so tiny that he placed third, he did get second place ahead of Lou. Given that, look at the two most-musculars in those pics (one form the contest and one in the gym), he's just as cut in the gym but MUCH, MUCH bigger. I think, given that Arnold was down 20+ lbs in '75, Serge in that shape just might have beaten him.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 10, 2006, 08:37:16 AM »

Reeves? What's wrong with you people? Reeves competed in the 1940's!

THEBERG · « **Reply #69 on:** August 10, 2006, 04:31:25 PM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 10, 2006, 08:25:03 AM

Sure, but Serge wasn't so tiny that he placed third, he did get second place ahead of Lou. Given that, look at the two most-musculars in those pics (one form the contest and one in the gym), he's just as cut in the gym but MUCH, MUCH bigger. I think, given that Arnold was down 20+ lbs in '75, Serge in that shape just might have beaten him.

it's hard to say if he could bring that same size and condition to the olympia, there are many shots weeks out from olympia's where bber's look fantastic but come contest day and they have lost it.

alexxx · « **Reply #70 on:** August 10, 2006, 04:34:27 PM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 10, 2006, 08:25:03 AM

Sure, but Serge wasn't so tiny that he placed third, he did get second place ahead of Lou. Given that, look at the two most-musculars in those pics (one form the contest and one in the gym), he's just as cut in the gym but MUCH, MUCH bigger. I think, given that Arnold was down 20+ lbs in '75, Serge in that shape just might have beaten him.

You're right Arnold showed up at 235 pounds in 1975. Still from height, size, and width Arnold had him beat. Still I say Serge could've become mr. Olympia in Arnold's absence.

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #71 on:** August 10, 2006, 11:12:49 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on August 10, 2006, 04:34:27 PM

You're right Arnold showed up at 235 pounds in 1975. Still from height, size, and width Arnold had him beat. Still I say Serge could've become mr. Olympia in Arnold's absence.

235? I read somewhere that he weighed about 10 lbs less than that. How much did he weigh in '74?

donrhummy · « **Reply #72 on:** August 11, 2006, 07:10:06 AM »

Can anyone do a side-by-side comparison of serge's pics?

alexxx · « **Reply #73 on:** August 11, 2006, 08:05:05 AM »

Quote from: donrhummy on August 11, 2006, 07:10:06 AM

Can anyone do a side-by-side comparison of serge's pics?

Here you go.

alexxx · « **Reply #74 on:** August 11, 2006, 09:07:56 AM »

Here is what Serge Nubret had to say about those pictures!

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The first and the third one have been from the Mr Olympia 1975 with only a body weight of 90 kg and the second and fourth was in California at Gold's, with a body weight of 96 kg. When I arrived in South Africa I looked like that, but when Weider saw me i decided to disqualify me, you can see why!...Anyway 12 days later, after Weider's decision I had 6 kg less and less cut, because I stoped training.