Finally i found a SOURCE now need help putting cycle together

[TNTBOOM]

Now can somebody help me put together a nice 1st cycle
 

a few member here aleady give me an idea of how i should do my first one but i'd liek to get more knowledge (variety) and since the 1st time is the best time i want to take full advantage

here is my stats
26 year old
5'7
175 lbs
10 -11 % bf
7 years training 5 of them religiously 

6-7 meals a day sometimes more when work permits 
60% protein 30% carbs 10% fats

i thank you all for your help


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[wes mantooth]

Now can somebody help me put together a nice 1st cycle
 

a few member here aleady give me an idea of how i should do my first one but i'd liek to get more knowledge (variety) and since the 1st time is the best time i want to take full advantage

here is my stats
26 year old
5'7
175 lbs
10 -11 % bf
7 years training 5 of them religiously 

6-7 meals a day sometimes more when work permits 
60% protein 30% carbs 10% fats

i thank you all for your help


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500mg of test cyp or enanth for 10 weeks

maybe 25-35mgs of dbol in the first 4 weeks.


keep the first cycle simple....and fun

[liftnbig]

I agree with wes.

500mg test e or c
30mg d-bol

It was my first.  Gained about 15 lbs

[TNTBOOM]

i was looking into a 16 week cycle
would this be too much
 

[ZEEK]

if your gonna do that go with what Wes said
1-16 test E 500mg a week
1-4 d-bol

[TNTBOOM]

so 500mg test for 16 weeks and d-bol for the fist 4 weeks?
how much d-bol?

help is appreciated
 

[liftnbig]

so 500mg test for 16 weeks and d-bol for the fist 4 weeks?
how much d-bol?

help is appreciated
 

30 mgs

[TNTBOOM]

so
1-16 500 mg of test monday and thursday is ok?
1-4  30mg of D-bol daily?

[ZEEK]

you can do 30mg everyday or you can do 50mg everyday both will be effective.

so its
1-16 test e 500mg
1-4 d-bol 30 to 50mg everyday

[BigIronMike25]

so
1-16 500 mg of test monday and thursday is ok?
1-4  30mg of D-bol daily?

looks like a good plan to me for a 1st cycle!  However make sure you have proper PCT planned.  and as for your diet i would decrease protein slightly and add more carbs (if you are bulking, which i assume you are since youre doing dbol)...you said your diet is 60%pro 30%carb

id strive for 3grams of carbs per lb of BW and

1.5-2 grams protein per lb of BW (you can handle more PRO while being ON)

so for you at 175lbs that would be:

525g Carbs

260-350g PRO

also include some healthy fats from egg yolks, Natural PB

[Arnold jr]

wk 1-6 dbol 30mg ed
wk 1-16 test 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex .25mg eod
wk 19-21 PCT...nolva 40mg, 30mg, 20mg

*Although it is not necessary, you could add in winny for a 6wk stint sometime after the dbol, say around wk9. Like I said, not necessary, but winny at the end of a bulking cycle can have a nice solidifying effect IMO, so something like wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed*

[sportingsteroids]

so
1-16 500 mg of test monday and thursday is ok?
1-4  30mg of D-bol daily?

haw you ever before use roids ?
if not, 16 weeks will be not good for 1st time !!

[TNTBOOM]

looks like a good plan to me for a 1st cycle!  However make sure you have proper PCT planned.  and as for your diet i would decrease protein slightly and add more carbs (if you are bulking, which i assume you are since youre doing dbol)...you said your diet is 60%pro 30%carb

id strive for 3grams of carbs per lb of BW and

1.5-2 grams protein per lb of BW (you can handle more PRO while being ON)

so for you at 175lbs that would be:

525g Carbs

260-350g PRO

also include some healthy fats from egg yolks, Natural PB

Mike
so glad you could join in
I'd like to talk about PCT a little further more
what else should i include besides Nolva and how should this be applied after the cycle?
do i need HCG during my cycle or during PCT?

[TNTBOOM]

Arnjr
19-21 pct ?
what do you mean by this?
if my cycle is only 16 weeks?
am i to dumb to understand your comment

please explain to me a little more the proper use of PCT

wk 1-6 dbol 30mg ed
wk 1-16 test 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex .25mg eod
wk 19-21 PCT...nolva 40mg, 30mg, 20mg

*Although it is not necessary, you could add in winny for a 6wk stint sometime after the dbol, say around wk9. Like I said, not necessary, but winny at the end of a bulking cycle can have a nice solidifying effect IMO, so something like wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed*

[Euro-monster]

haw you ever before use roids ?
if not, 16 weeks will be not good for 1st time !!

I'm with him......why would you want to do a 16 week cycle ?.....most people don't make much gains after week8 anyway.....

[TNTBOOM]

I'm with him......why would you want to do a 16 week cycle ?.....most people don't make much gains after week8 anyway.....

thats why i asked for help/sugestions
im going with the rule of thumb here
 and for what i understand
14-16 weeks is the ideal for a cycle

[Euro-monster]

Well the rule of thumb here isn't a 16 weeker for your first cycle but whatever you want  i guess you will do anyway so....

[TNTBOOM]

Well the rule of thumb here isn't a 16 weeker for your first cycle but whatever you want  i guess you will do anyway so....

im gathering all the information i can
so i can do it right
please dont hesitate to share your knowledge
 

[dirtyman_209]

you dont know how your body is gonna react to your first cycle especially cause you've never put a forein substance into your body cause i remember my first cycle gave me the worst anxiety from hell cause i didnt know what it would do to me or what to expect but that was just me

[TNTBOOM]

you dont know how your body is gonna react to your first cycle especially cause you've never put a forein substance into your body cause i remember my first cycle gave me the worst anxiety from hell cause i didnt know what it would do to me or what to expect but that was just me

thansk man
its definitivelly something i've taken into consideration
 

[Arnold jr]

Arnjr
19-21 pct ?
what do you mean by this?
if my cycle is only 16 weeks?
am i to dumb to understand your comment

please explain to me a little more the proper use of PCT

The cycle is only 16 wks. After your last injection you want to wait before you start PCT to let the drugs begin to clear out, so you have a few wks of nothing in between your cycle and PCT...got it?

[freakfestMD]

wk 1-6 dbol 30mg ed
wk 1-16 test 500mg wk
wk 1-16 a-dex .25mg eod
wk 19-21 PCT...nolva 40mg, 30mg, 20mg

TNT: 
I L I K E this cycle.  It's a great first cycle that is safe and reasonable.  I'm a fan of also doing low-dose hcg during the cycle (for this one, 300IU subQ every 5 days), although at your age and with a first cycle your nuts should recover pretty well on their own. That one's up to you.

[TNTBOOM]

Ok
now its a bit more clear
thanks
 

The cycle is only 16 wks. After your last injection you want to wait before you start PCT to let the drugs begin to clear out, so you have a few wks of nothing in between your cycle and PCT...got it?

[udeluz]

Just do this if you wanna BET BIG

1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-12 500mg/week Sustanon
1-12 250mg/week Deca
13-16 600 mg/week Test Prop eod
13-16 winny 50mg ed
1-16 HCG @ 500IU e5d
1-16 Arimidex .5MG eod
17-20 PCT (Nolvadex)

TRUST  ME