Chick it's too warm to be christmas

[240 is Back]

It's Jack's call to post any pics.  

Suppose a 96 pic of jack is not good.  What will happen?  Spicy sushi will have it on everything from milk cartons to wanted posters.  Vince G will post it 10,000 times with all sorts of warnings. Bob C will start fake apology threads.

You can judge the criticism as valid, I respect your opinion.  I made my opinion clear.  jack has provided proof to wayne.  That is his responsibility.  Since he competed in the 97 Worlds, it should be fairly obvious that he had to win a national qualifier to enter this show. I don't know if it's just curiosity, or sincere doubt.  Proof has been provided that he won a national show.

[240 is Back]

Bob Chic,

Maybe you should contact Bob Gruskin directly.  Like a professional would.  You know, since the PDI matters nothing to you, yet you feel the need to spend hours harping on it.

[swilkins1984]

It's Jack's call to post any pics.  

Suppose a 96 pic of jack is not good.  What will happen?  Spicy sushi will have it on everything from milk cartons to wanted posters.  Vince G will post it 10,000 times with all sorts of warnings. Bob C will start fake apology threads.

You can judge the criticism as valid, I respect your opinion.  I made my opinion clear.  jack has provided proof to wayne.  That is his responsibility.  Since he competed in the 97 Worlds, it should be fairly obvious that he had to win a national qualifier to enter this show. I don't know if it's just curiosity, or sincere doubt.  Proof has been provided that he won a national show.

I understant 240, but to make it a reality to Bob Jack would have to provide the evidence to Bob himself. If Gruskin can send an email, surely he can call Bob and clear Jack's win as official. I think Bob has the integrity to keep the evidence confidential from Getbig if Jack elects to PM the photos.

[swilkins1984]

Good Point.  But will Bob pull "a Jack" and break confidentiality?

Well, that is possible but no guts no glory right?

[Woten]

Bob Chic,

Maybe you should contact Bob Gruskin directly.  Like a professional would.  You know, since the PDI matters nothing to you, yet you feel the need to spend hours harping on it.

Contacting Gruskin directly will count for shit if he is [as per my previous post] in cahoots with De Milia

Just admit that the no photo issue is a strange one, christ, everyone has said it is strange, all you are doing is intensifying the matter with your constant attempts at deflection

[ieffinhatecardio]

It's Jack's call to post any pics.  

Suppose a 96 pic of jack is not good.  What will happen?  Spicy sushi will have it on everything from milk cartons to wanted posters.  Vince G will post it 10,000 times with all sorts of warnings. Bob C will start fake apology threads.

You can judge the criticism as valid, I respect your opinion.  I made my opinion clear.  jack has provided proof to wayne.  That is his responsibility.  Since he competed in the 97 Worlds, it should be fairly obvious that he had to win a national qualifier to enter this show. I don't know if it's just curiosity, or sincere doubt.  Proof has been provided that he won a national show.

Would you agree that posting a picture of the win would shut everyone up and would show up Chick?

Clearly Jack doesn't want to post a picture and his excuse of not having any doesn't sound plausible. I would guess he has many many pictures of his earlier bodybuilding career.

Jack seems like a decent enough guy albeit a bit sensitive and egotistical but certainly more likable than Chick, that's part of the reason it's so disappointing he won't just end this thing and post a picture. You would think giving Chick a figurative beating would be a motivation for him.

[dorkeroo]

Bob Chic,

Maybe you should contact Bob Gruskin directly.  Like a professional would.  You know, since the PDI matters nothing to you, yet you feel the need to spend hours harping on it.

He sure as hell doesn't behave like a professional.

[240 is Back]

Chick was given a statement from a NABBA official of 30 years.  Chic saw that yes, jack won 3rd at the 97 show, which he only could have qualified for by winning the 96 show.

If Chick doesn't want to believe that, well, that's his right.  

Chick has so little credibility at this point, well, anyone who jumps on his bandwagon must be blindfolded or stupid.  Just my opinion though.

[swilkins1984]

Chick was given a statement from a NABBA official of 30 years.  Chic saw that yes, jack won 3rd at the 97 show, which he only could have qualified for by winning the 96 show.

If Chick doesn't want to believe that, well, that's his right.  

Chick has so little credibility at this point, well, anyone who jumps on his bandwagon must be blindfolded or stupid.  Just my opinion though.

Emailed to Bob directly from the official or emailed to you to post?

[240 is Back]

Emailed to Bob directly from the official or emailed to you to post?

Emailed to me.  I offered to give Bob the email and phone of bob Gruskin, so he could check for himself, which he declined.

I guess it was more fun to bash jack without info, than to get the truth.

[swilkins1984]

Bob Gruskin would have to call or email Bob.  I can see no other direct solution.  If he could email you, he should email Bob just as easily.  Wasnt is bob@musclebob.com?

[240 is Back]

Bob Gruskin would have to call or email Bob.  I can see no other direct solution.  If he could email you, he should email Bob just as easily.  Wasnt is bob@musclebob.com?

Gruskin would have to contact Bob?  Why?  Chic has no affiliation with PDI.  His only claim in all this is that criticizes the PDI nonstop.  That's it.  Why would I email Gruskin with a request to contact someone else? 

I offered to give Bob the contact info if he wanted to back up his rude comments here.  He didn't want it. 

Chic, if you doubt Rhino's win, email Gruskin.  Publicly bitching, without doing your research, does nothing but further this new idiot image you're cultivating.

[danielson]

Gruskin would have to contact Bob?  Why?  Chic has no affiliation with PDI.  His only claim in all this is that criticizes the PDI nonstop.  That's it.  Why would I email Gruskin with a request to contact someone else? 

I offered to give Bob the contact info if he wanted to back up his rude comments here.  He didn't want it. 

Chic, if you doubt Rhino's win, email Gruskin.  Publicly bitching, without doing your research, does nothing but further this new idiot image you're cultivating.

new?

[sgt. d]

This will always sound strange to me. You won your show but no pics was taken. I dont get it.
240 your theory of getbig members would joke on Jack pics from 10 years ago is a bunch of bull. If he competed and won his show then that wouldn't matter. Somebody find a dayum picture.

[240 is Back]

This will always sound strange to me. You won your show but no pics was taken. I dont get it. 240 your theory of getbig members would joke on Jack pics from 10 years ago is a bunch of bull. If he competed and won his show then that wouldn't matter. Somebody find a dayum picture.

sgt d,
1) poor quality pics do not help a person's marketability.
2) sushi and others have already shown willingness to alter pics of jack.

so it's not bull.  Now tell your boy Chic to man up and call Gruskin, if he's so concerned.  Nevermind he's an IFBB guy just dying to trash a PDI guy, he's ignoring the facts presented.  And it's not our job to provide Bob Chic proof of anything. 

If he wants to bash, tell him to do his research, or take the bet.

[sgt. d]

sgt d,
1) poor quality pics do not help a person's marketability.
2) sushi and others have already shown willingness to alter pics of jack.

so it's not bull.  Now tell your boy Chic to man up and call Gruskin, if he's so concerned.  Nevermind he's an IFBB guy just dying to trash a PDI guy, he's ignoring the facts presented.  And it's not our job to provide Bob Chic proof of anything. 

If he wants to bash, tell him to do his research, or take the bet.

This is all crazy. All Jack has to do is post a pic. Jack is the only bber in here that we went through all this trouble to try to verify a contest. It shouldnt be that hard to get information on this contest. Im done with this thread.
Chic wins

[sgt. d]

but it is not just the pics.  It is Jack's memory that has me questioning the entire thing.  He can't remember details, like who he competed against, that is pure bull. OR Jack is really stupid.

You pick

that to 

[danielson]

anyone ever consider that Jack is holding out until Bob agrees to the 10k bet? Thats what I would do

[240 is Back]

And what will the haters do?

post pics of the people he beat, and mock their quality.

You see, there is a little marketing war going on right now.  The IFBB has their public face, Bob Chic, on the boards every night bashing the PDI.  This is no accident.  They're scared that guys are going to jump.   Anything negative they can get, they'll use.  So why give it to them?  

Obviously, bob feels his time is better spent bashing PDI competitors, than spent doing things to better life for IFBB athletes.  It's like, if your own car was broke down, would you spend your day making fun of your neighbor's car? No, you'd fix your own.

Bob- look in your own backyard.  90% of the athletes don't earn a cent from the IFBB.  You have bigger probs than 96 pics of Jack London.  Do- your- fucking- job.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

And what will the haters do?

post pics of the people he beat, and mock their quality.

You see, there is a little marketing war going on right now.  The IFBB has their public face, Bob Chic, on the boards every night bashing the PDI.  This is no accident.  They're scared that guys are going to jump.   Anything negative they can get, they'll use.  So why give it to them? 

Obviously, bob feels his time is better spent bashing PDI competitors, than spent doing things to better life for IFBB athletes.  It's like, if your own car was broke down, would you spend your day making fun of your neighbor's car? No, you'd fix your own.

Bob- look in your own backyard.  90% of the athletes don't earn a cent from the IFBB.  You have bigger probs than 96 pics of Jack London.  Do- your- fucking- job.

If Jack won the NABBA North America, he should have been in his best shape of his life.  So why not show the pictures???


240, Jack is nothing more than either a coward, liar, or just brain dead.

[Crusher]

you profess too much, 240.  The issue is if Rhino won a show 10 years ago, not how he looks compared to today.  I can't believe anyone could WIN a bodybuilding show and not have a picture of it.  Does anyone here have a similar experience?  You won a show - any show - took 5th for that matter - and doesn't have at least one measly pic of it?

[squatz]

You guys are a complete joke if you think Jack London looks better than Chick.

Not liking Chick is one thing, but don't use character judgement when comparing physiques.  Chick's physique and accomplishments are on a completely different level than Jack London's, and you all know this!

[Chick]

And what will the haters do?

post pics of the people he beat, and mock their quality.

You see, there is a little marketing war going on right now.  The IFBB has their public face, Bob Chic, on the boards every night bashing the PDI.  This is no accident.  They're scared that guys are going to jump.   Anything negative they can get, they'll use.  So why give it to them? 

Obviously, bob feels his time is better spent bashing PDI competitors, than spent doing things to better life for IFBB athletes.  It's like, if your own car was broke down, would you spend your day making fun of your neighbor's car? No, you'd fix your own.

Bob- look in your own backyard.  90% of the athletes don't earn a cent from the IFBB.  You have bigger probs than 96 pics of Jack London.  Do- your- fucking- job.

THAT'S his reasoning for refusing to post a pic???

There's no marketing war going on...Why would the IFBB be "scared" of anyone going to the PDI? The vast amount of people who have already jumped ship (1)? All the benefits they are offering that the IFBB isn't? (none) The track record they've already shown? (canceled shows, no record to go off of, questionable line-ups, etc?

90% of ALL atletess in performance based jobs don't make any money, or make peanuts comparitively...what do you think the 80th ranked tennis player in the world makes? Think theey have any endorsement deals. WOW, big surprise here...the best players make the biggest money.

Give it up, 240...even you can't defend the lack of evidence to support him. You're starting to sound desperate.

[gordiano]

And what will the haters do?

post pics of the people he beat, and mock their quality.

You see, there is a little marketing war going on right now.  The IFBB has their public face, Bob Chic, on the boards every night bashing the PDI.  This is no accident.  They're scared that guys are going to jump.   Anything negative they can get, they'll use.  So why give it to them?  

Obviously, bob feels his time is better spent bashing PDI competitors, than spent doing things to better life for IFBB athletes.  It's like, if your own car was broke down, would you spend your day making fun of your neighbor's car? No, you'd fix your own.

Bob- look in your own backyard.  90% of the athletes don't earn a cent from the IFBB.  You have bigger probs than 96 pics of Jack London.  Do- your- fucking- job.

OUCH!

[240 is Back]

THAT'S his reasoning for refusing to post a pic???

There's no marketing war going on...Why would the IFBB be "scared" of anyone going to the PDI? The vast amount of people who have already jumped ship (1)? All the benefits they are offering that the IFBB isn't? (none) The track record they've already shown? (canceled shows, no record to go off of, questionable line-ups, etc?

90% of ALL athletes in performance based jobs don't make any money, or make peanuts comparitively...what do you think the 80th ranked tennis player in the world makes? Think theey have any endorsement deals. WOW, big surprise here...the best players make the biggest money.

Give it up, 240...even you can't defend the lack of evidence to support him. You're starting to sound

Bob, there is definitely a marketing war going on.  If you don't see it, well, I can't help you there.  And if you're denying it, well, that's fine too.  Anyone with half a brain sees who has been bashing the PDI nonstop since minute one.  

And you ask why the IFBB would be scared about anyone going to the PDI.  You're joking, right?  It's a clear competitor run by their former boss, that has snatched one of the most popular guys (Lee priest) before they have even held one show!

Third, you defend the fact that 90% of IFBB athletes don't make any money.  For athletes rep to defend this... hahahahaha monster poor job performance  Dude, athletes rep can't settle for 10% of athletes getting paid, and defend this trend publicly. Oh brother.  Epic dereliction of duty!