How many times do we have to go through this.
Besides the fact that there are no rules being broken by the thread, I find it entertaining to see such a popular discussion in perpetual motion.
Leave it be, I think you're an idiot if you get suckered into debating the subject with the Dorian fans myself but I give props to hulkster and co for trying.
And I don't understand how any of us who are all guilty of at one stage posting utter shite could ever criticise something that is debated seriously, even if it is for over 7000 posts.