ALL VETERANS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS-------tell me what you think

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

 


 

A new look into doing Sustanon250 by basskiller



As you can see by the numbers, the quickest way to get the sust levels in your blood stream at a constant maximum level is to shoot ed.
By the middle of week 1, your there, except for a few milligrams.


On a 3cc case, each hash mark equals 25mgs of sust
So to shoot
200mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 3/4 of a ml
150mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 1/2 of a ml
100mgs would be 4 hash marks or a little under 1/2 of a ml


Also to do this you will need a sterile 40 or 50 ml empty vial to switch all the sust amps into.
basskiller

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................3 51
3 ..............200 .......................4 87
4 ..............150 .......................5 55
5 ..............150 .......................6 12
6 ..............100 .......................6 13
7 ..............100 .......................6 14
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................6 15
9 ..............100 .......................6 16
10.............100 .......................6 16
11.............100 .......................6 17
12.............100 .......................6 17
13.............100 .......................6 17
14.............100 .......................6 18
Week 3
15............100 .......................6 18
16............100 .......................6 18
17............100 .......................6 18
18............100 .......................6 18
19............100 .......................6 18
20............100 .......................6 19
21............100 .......................6 19
Week 4
22............100 .......................6 19
23............100 .......................6 19
24............100 .......................6 19
25............100 .......................6 19
26............100 .......................6 19
27............100 .......................6 19
28............100 .......................6 19
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................6 19
30............100 .......................6 19
31............100 .......................6 19
32............100 .......................6 19
33............100 .......................6 19
34............100 .......................6 19
35............100 .......................6 19
Week 6
36............100 .......................6 19
37............100 .......................6 19
38............100 .......................6 19
39............100 .......................6 19
40............100 .......................6 19
41............100 .......................6 19
42............100 .......................6 19
Week 7
43............100 .......................6 19
44............100 .......................6 19
45............100 .......................6 19
46............100 .......................6 19
47............100 .......................6 19
48............100 .......................6 19
49............100 .......................6 19
Week 8
50............100 .......................6 19
51............100 .......................6 19
52............100 .......................6 19
53............100 .......................6 19
54............100 .......................6 19
55............100 .......................6 19
56............100 .......................6 19


Also you can see by the numbers...
Your shooting 700mgs a week, with the exception of the 1st week,
That your only really doing 619mgs.



 

Question:

So we all have heard that more even T levels (ED injections) means less side effects, right? Why is that? Can someone briefly expand on this idea? What are some other reasons for keeping our T levels as even as possible? Looking for input here to put a reason behind the technique...

as posted by 46and2aheadofme (the same who made the graph) Thanks 46

Answer:

Ok lets see if we can put this into perspective... I've asked some of who I feel are the most knowledgeable guys on these boards about this to see if they agree and yes, so far everyone seems to be on the same page

The best way to put it is as Andy said .. I'm paraphrasing here


Many, guys say that dbol is many times more effective when taken throughout the day, Bill Roberts included.
There seem to be less sides and more gains as opposed to just taking it 1 or 2 times daily....

The only difference between taking it 1 to 2 times a day and throughout the day is the stability in the blood .

The higher injection frequency = stable blood levels = better gains and or less sides is simply an extension of this analogy.

There's no doubt that people gain from injecting sustanon 1x/week... But, at least in theory, it would be better if split up..
The magnitude of the difference in blood levels increases with dose..
So the need to split up the injections increases with the dose and may not be that big of a deal on small cycles.


 

 

Here is the normal 3 times a week chart

 Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just Here is Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................2 38
2 ...0 ........................ ..201
3 ...250 .......................4 09
4 ...0 ........................ ..346
5 ...250 .......................5 32
6 ...0 ........................ ..451
7 ...0 ........................ ..384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................5 66
9 ...0 ........................ ..480
10...250 .......................6 46
11...0 ........................ ..547
12...250 .......................7 03
13...0 ........................ ..595
14...0 ........................ ..507
Week 3
15...250 .......................6 72
16...0 ........................ ..569
17...250 .......................7 22
18...0 ........................ ..611
19...250 .......................7 58
20...0 ........................ ..642
21...0 ........................ ..547
Week 4
22...250 .......................7 06
23...0 ........................ ..598
24...250 .......................7 47
25...0 ........................ ..632
26...250 .......................7 76
27...0 ........................ ..657
28...0 ........................ ..560
Week 5
29...250 .......................7 17
30...0 ........................ ..607
31...250 .......................7 55
32...0 ........................ ..639
33...250 .......................7 82
34...0 ........................ ..662
35...0 ........................ ..564
Week 6
36...250 .......................7 21
37...0 ........................ ..610
38...250 .......................7 57
39...0 ........................ ..641
40...250 .......................7 84
41...0 ........................ ..663
42...0 ........................ ..656
Week 7
43...250 .......................7 22
44...0 ........................ ..611
45...250 .......................7 58
46...0 ........................ ..642
47...250 .......................7 84
48...0 ........................ ..664
49...250 .......................5 66
Week 8
50...250 .......................7 22
51...0 ........................ ..611
52...250 .......................7 58
53...0 ........................ ..642
54...250 .......................7 84
55...0 ........................ ..664
56...0.................. .........566

 








Feel free to discuss this article here.

 

 

[The Freakshow]

 

A new look into doing Sustanon250 by basskiller



As you can see by the numbers, the quickest way to get the sust levels in your blood stream at a constant maximum level is to shoot ed.
By the middle of week 1, your there, except for a few milligrams.


On a 3cc case, each hash mark equals 25mgs of sust
So to shoot
200mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 3/4 of a ml
150mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 1/2 of a ml
100mgs would be 4 hash marks or a little under 1/2 of a ml


Also to do this you will need a sterile 40 or 50 ml empty vial to switch all the sust amps into.
basskiller

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................3 51
3 ..............200 .......................4 87
4 ..............150 .......................5 55
5 ..............150 .......................6 12
6 ..............100 .......................6 13
7 ..............100 .......................6 14
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................6 15
9 ..............100 .......................6 16
10.............100 .......................6 16
11.............100 .......................6 17
12.............100 .......................6 17
13.............100 .......................6 17
14.............100 .......................6 18
Week 3
15............100 .......................6 18
16............100 .......................6 18
17............100 .......................6 18
18............100 .......................6 18
19............100 .......................6 18
20............100 .......................6 19
21............100 .......................6 19
Week 4
22............100 .......................6 19
23............100 .......................6 19
24............100 .......................6 19
25............100 .......................6 19
26............100 .......................6 19
27............100 .......................6 19
28............100 .......................6 19
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................6 19
30............100 .......................6 19
31............100 .......................6 19
32............100 .......................6 19
33............100 .......................6 19
34............100 .......................6 19
35............100 .......................6 19
Week 6
36............100 .......................6 19
37............100 .......................6 19
38............100 .......................6 19
39............100 .......................6 19
40............100 .......................6 19
41............100 .......................6 19
42............100 .......................6 19
Week 7
43............100 .......................6 19
44............100 .......................6 19
45............100 .......................6 19
46............100 .......................6 19
47............100 .......................6 19
48............100 .......................6 19
49............100 .......................6 19
Week 8
50............100 .......................6 19
51............100 .......................6 19
52............100 .......................6 19
53............100 .......................6 19
54............100 .......................6 19
55............100 .......................6 19
56............100 .......................6 19


Also you can see by the numbers...
Your shooting 700mgs a week, with the exception of the 1st week,
That your only really doing 619mgs.



 

Question:

So we all have heard that more even T levels (ED injections) means less side effects, right? Why is that? Can someone briefly expand on this idea? What are some other reasons for keeping our T levels as even as possible? Looking for input here to put a reason behind the technique...

as posted by 46and2aheadofme (the same who made the graph) Thanks 46

Answer:

Ok lets see if we can put this into perspective... I've asked some of who I feel are the most knowledgeable guys on these boards about this to see if they agree and yes, so far everyone seems to be on the same page

The best way to put it is as Andy said .. I'm paraphrasing here


Many, guys say that dbol is many times more effective when taken throughout the day, Bill Roberts included.
There seem to be less sides and more gains as opposed to just taking it 1 or 2 times daily....

The only difference between taking it 1 to 2 times a day and throughout the day is the stability in the blood .

The higher injection frequency = stable blood levels = better gains and or less sides is simply an extension of this analogy.

There's no doubt that people gain from injecting sustanon 1x/week... But, at least in theory, it would be better if split up..
The magnitude of the difference in blood levels increases with dose..
So the need to split up the injections increases with the dose and may not be that big of a deal on small cycles.


 

 

Here is the normal 3 times a week chart

 Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just Here is Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................2 38
2 ...0 ........................ ..201
3 ...250 .......................4 09
4 ...0 ........................ ..346
5 ...250 .......................5 32
6 ...0 ........................ ..451
7 ...0 ........................ ..384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................5 66
9 ...0 ........................ ..480
10...250 .......................6 46
11...0 ........................ ..547
12...250 .......................7 03
13...0 ........................ ..595
14...0 ........................ ..507
Week 3
15...250 .......................6 72
16...0 ........................ ..569
17...250 .......................7 22
18...0 ........................ ..611
19...250 .......................7 58
20...0 ........................ ..642
21...0 ........................ ..547
Week 4
22...250 .......................7 06
23...0 ........................ ..598
24...250 .......................7 47
25...0 ........................ ..632
26...250 .......................7 76
27...0 ........................ ..657
28...0 ........................ ..560
Week 5
29...250 .......................7 17
30...0 ........................ ..607
31...250 .......................7 55
32...0 ........................ ..639
33...250 .......................7 82
34...0 ........................ ..662
35...0 ........................ ..564
Week 6
36...250 .......................7 21
37...0 ........................ ..610
38...250 .......................7 57
39...0 ........................ ..641
40...250 .......................7 84
41...0 ........................ ..663
42...0 ........................ ..656
Week 7
43...250 .......................7 22
44...0 ........................ ..611
45...250 .......................7 58
46...0 ........................ ..642
47...250 .......................7 84
48...0 ........................ ..664
49...250 .......................5 66
Week 8
50...250 .......................7 22
51...0 ........................ ..611
52...250 .......................7 58
53...0 ........................ ..642
54...250 .......................7 84
55...0 ........................ ..664
56...0.................. .........566

 








Feel free to discuss this article here.

 

 

Sounds like a pain in the a*s

[Arnold jr]

More trouble then it's worth IMO...injecting sust 7x/wk, way more trouble then necessary.

My advice, and this goes for everyone including myself, follow the "KISS" rule when it comes to gear...after all, the biggest factors are diet, training and consistency, gear is only an added tool to push beyond those limits. Yes, there is a wrong way and a right way to go about things concerning gear and the "right" way can slightly vary from each individual, but in the end, keeping it simple is the best approach for everyone and will be the most satisfying.

[Captain Equipoise]

bigjohn, I see what you're getting at here but you gotta keep in mind that two of the esters in sustanon are long/medium acting, and since long acting test is already in your system when you shoot it makes it kind of redundant to shoot ED or EOD just for that little amount of propionate that's in there. I've always shot sust once or twice a week with great results and next to no sides. In the case of prop or another short acting ester (tren acetate, winstrol, etc.) it makes perfect sense to shoot often to keep blood serum levels steady and balanced (because of the short half-life's) but in regards to sust I think it's pointless.

[davinci]

bigjohn, I see what you're getting at here but you gotta keep in mind that two of the esters in sustanon are long/medium acting, and since long acting test is already in your system when you shoot it makes it kind of redundant to shoot ED or EOD just for that little amount of propionate that's in there. I've always shot sust once or twice a week with great results and next to no sides. In the case of prop or another short acting ester (tren acetate, winstrol, etc.) it makes perfect sense to shoot often to keep blood serum levels steady and balanced (because of the short half-life's) but in regards to sust I think it's pointless.

yup, i always see these sust schedules where they base it on the fast acting prop but seem to forget the medium and long esters.....

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

well, I agree with you huys 100% ----------- I wasnt att all taking the side of the article--- I have also ran a very productive cycle with sust and I just shot it with my deca twice a week---I agree with cap--I dont realy care about those little short esters-- they are just an added bonus-

[!@#$%]

Also to do this you will need a sterile 40 or 50 ml empty vial to switch all the sust amps into.

Why not just preload the syringes, if you are going to do this?

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Why not just preload the syringes, if you are going to do this?

well---this whole article is bad idea IMO--- but you woulkd never want to preload that much into syringes because you risk compromising its sterility----- When you put it into a sterile vile, it has the stopper to protect it

[!@#$%]

well---this whole article is bad idea IMO--- but you woulkd never want to preload that much into syringes because you risk compromising its sterility----- When you put it into a sterile vile, it has the stopper to protect it

My syringes have a plastic cover over the needles.