Move to get the IFBB rules followed!

[Lee_a_priest]

Just read the new MD with Ramano interviewing Denise Masino. Ok Bob go read that and tell me why the rules aren't upheld there. Read it first then give me your opinion. I have nothing against Denise or any other girl doing the nudes or XXX videos, or girl on girl action but the rules do state.......... Don't they Bob and we know how the IFBB is a stickler for the RULES.

[jwb]

how about we just drop the whole masculine female side from the entire sport (bb,fitness,figure)?

was better without them...

[Hedgehog]

Just read the new MD with Ramano interviewing Denise Masino.Ok Bob go read that and tell me why the rules aren't upheld there.Read ut first then give me your opinion.I have nothing against Denise or any other girl doiong the nudes or XXX videos,or girl on girl action but the rules do state..........Don't they Bob and we know how the IFBB is a stickler for the RULES.

There should be a rule that Mandy Blank have to do hardcore scenes.

And that jennifer girl too. Too bad there isn't NPC rules discussed. I know a few rules I'd liked to have implemented regarding some female Getbiggers.

YIP
Zack

[torquemada]

When did they change anyhow?  I remember that years ago, a Ms O competitor got in hot water for posing in Playboy.  The rules seem a little...looser now.

[jwb]

When did they change anyhow?  I remember that years ago, a Ms O competitor got in hot water for posing in Playboy.  The rules seem a little...looser now.

they haven't changed that is the point...

total enforcement of one rule - absolute non enforcement of every other rule!

[Hedgehog]

When did they change anyhow?  I remember that years ago, a Ms O competitor got in hot water for posing in Playboy.  The rules seem a little...looser now.

As loose as the bunghole of Yvette Bova. Or Rhonda Lee Quaresma.

YIP
Zack

[240 is Back]

WOAH!  Denise Masino has done some hot stuff!

Perhaps some more "Raw, uncut XXX girl-on-girl action from this female muscle pro and the girls she likes to dominate" would make the sport more mainstream!

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=denise+masino

[Chick]

Just read the new MD with Ramano interviewing Denise Masino.Ok Bob go read that and tell me why the rules aren't upheld there.Read ut first then give me your opinion.I have nothing against Denise or any other girl doiong the nudes or XXX videos,or girl on girl action but the rules do state..........Don't they Bob and we know how the IFBB is a stickler for the RULES.

1.) I haven't had a chance to read it, but I will since you brought it up.

2.) This is an issue you should bring up with Betty Pariso, she's the WOMEN'S representative.

3.) Maybe you could help these girls out with some money to compensate them, from the Lee Priest Foundation- Home for wayward female bodybuilders.

4.) Seriously, I think it's bullshit myself, and have said so to Betty. I believe she is submitting a proposal to clean up the women's side.

[torquemada]

As loose as the bunghole of Yvette Bova. Or Rhonda Lee Quaresma.

YIP
Zack

When I posted that, I knew someone would follow up on the word loose.

[240 is Back]

4.) seriously, I think it's bullshit myself, and have said so to Betty. I believe she is submitting a proposal to clean up the women's side.

So you think the IFBB's decision NOT to fine/suspend her is bullshit?

[torquemada]

3.) Maybe you could help these girls out with some money to compensate them, from the Lee Priest Foundation- Home for wayward female bodybuilders.

Hello!  Lee runs a home for wayward fitness and figure girls.  Keep the facts straight, Chick...

[Hedgehog]

2.) This is an issue you should bring up with Betty pariso, she's the WOMEN'S representative.

WOMEN'S?

The female bodybuilders need someone who tells it like it is. Betty Pariso blasted you for your Chicks with Dicks article, or if it was "Chick on chicks"? Whatever else will happen, you definitely deserve credit for calling the BS that the female bodybuilders are. Poor bastards being played by the schmoes.

YIP
Zack

[Chick]

So you think the IFBB's decision NOT to fine/suspend her is bullshit?

If I were running the ship...NONE of that shit would have been tolerated from day 1...men or women.

This isn't anything new, I've had this discussion dozens of times over the years.

It's merely ONE of the reasons womens BB is where it is.

[240 is Back]

If I were running the ship...NONE of that shit would have been tolerated from day 1...men or women.
This isn't anything new, I've had this discussion dozens of times over the years.
It's merely ONE of the reasons womens BB is where it is.

At least mens' bodybuilding has been fair and consistent with its rule enforcement.

[sarcasm]

Just read the new MD with Ramano interviewing Denise Masino.Ok Bob go read that and tell me why the rules aren't upheld there.Read ut first then give me your opinion.I have nothing against Denise or any other girl doiong the nudes or XXX videos,or girl on girl action but the rules do state..........Don't they Bob and we know how the IFBB is a stickler for the RULES.

hahahaha, yes Lee if the IFBB enforced all of it's "rules" the only one on stage would be huge Jocelyn Pelletier.

[sarcasm]

If you mean "roids" enforcement, Lee competed drug free some years ago and didn't do that bad.

i didn't mean Lee i meant every IFBB pro, Lee himself brought up that point on PBB weekly.

[Lee_a_priest]

If I were running the ship...NONE of that shit would have been tolerated from day 1...men or women.

This isn't anything new, I've had this discussion dozens of times over the years.

It's merely ONE of the reasons womens BB is where it is.

So this is where you go to bat for me saying how can we fine or suspend Lee while others are getting away with stuff.
THANKS BOB

[Disgusted]

Hmmmmm, So this is interesting,. So no one in the porn industry is supposed to be allowed to compete in bodybuilding? How's the pro figure girl that does porn? Can't remember her name. This goes a little  bit further than not letting girls who pose nude to compete. The rules stopped being enforced when Flex magazine realized that their mag sales went way up when they started doing nude layouts of the women. Such bullshit double standards. There is no way the can enforce this without fining themselves.   Denise is making big bucks and I really don't think she gives a rats ass about wether she can compete again. Although I would see a legit lawsuit if she wanted to pursue one if they ever banned or fined her.

[Chick]

So this is where you go to bat for me saying how can we fine or suspend Lee while others are getting away with stuff.
THANKS BOB

It's not my call, bro...I don't make or enforce the rules. If you're saying ALL the rules should be enforced, LEE...then you're basically saying they should suspend you as well.

You're suggesting an all or nothing proposal, and they aint never going for that in a million years.

They may choose to start enforcing the "nude" rules (which I suggest they do)...but they will never NOT suspend someone for crossingg over to a rival federation.



I'll continue later...gotta go eat.

[chris_mason]

I agree with your point about hypocrisy Lee.  I hope that the PDI does well and is run in a more professional fashion.

[jwb]

I agree with your point about hypocrisy Lee.  I hope that the PDI does well and is run in a more professional fashion.

that's a good one!

[chris_mason]

Which brings me to another thought:

I own a small supplement company (AtLarge Nutrition, LLC).  If every person on this site who buys supplements were to support my company via purchasing from us and getting their contacts (friends and family) to do so I could begin to make a difference in bodybuilding.

Let me be clear, I do not consider myself to be a great man but I am someone with integrity and a love for FAIR competition.  Much like I have already begun to do with powerlifting if my company were to grow due to bodybuilding I would pour money back into the sport.  Like most of you who are reading this I very much dislike the problems that abound in the sport now.  There is no need to rehash it all here; you know what the problems are.

Think of it this way, the ad budgets for some of the bigger supplement companies would be more than sufficient to start a new federation that was nicely funded. 

As I have stated in the powerlifting world my goal is to build my company to the point where I can give back to the sports that support it and create a better strength sports world.  I have never said this publicly, buy my ultimate goal would be to grow my company to Weider-like proportions and create new professional bodybuilding and powerlifting federations that were run free of political b.s. and the other unprofessional problems that are so manifest in strength sports today.

Why do I want to do this?  Practically from the day I first started training I loved strength sports of all types and the more I have gotten to know about the inner workings of said sport I have felt really compelled to try to make a difference.  When I see a bodybuilder get ill and have no way to pay his/her medical bills or when I see a powerlifter or bodybuilder have to hold a grueling full-time job while simultaneously being a top-tier athlete in their respective sport I cannot help but think what a travesty that is.  These athletes and their sports help to generate supplement and gear (powerlifting gear) companies millions of dollars yet they don't have a pot to piss in.  BAD DEAL!

Frankly, I feel a bit silly typing this as I am essentially outlining my dream/goal but I think it is important to let others know.  WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE SPORTS YOU LOVE.  IF YOU WANT TO BUILD TOWARDS A BETTER TOMORROW SUPPORT MY COMPANY.

Spam maybe, but this is how I TRULY feel and I feel compelled to say it now.

[Original Sin]

Just read the new MD with Ramano interviewing Denise Masino.Ok Bob go read that and tell me why the rules aren't upheld there.Read ut first then give me your opinion.I have nothing against Denise or any other girl doiong the nudes or XXX videos,or girl on girl action but the rules do state..........Don't they Bob and we know how the IFBB is a stickler for the RULES.

Your beating a dead horse here.  I recall reading an article about Masino in FLEX way back when that she was going to be suspended but talked to the man in charge and made arrangements so she could compete and continue with her Muscle Elegance.  You might know the guys name Wayne "I make up rules" DeMilia.

Why don't you roll over in bed and ask him about it.  Better yet track down Denise and ask her, at least she won't lie to your face.

[ribonucleic]

If I were running the ship...NONE of that shit would have been tolerated from day 1...men or women.

This isn't anything new, I've had this discussion dozens of times over the years.

It's merely ONE of the reasons womens BB is where it is.

Aside from the fact that the women don't have 1/50th of the sponsorship opportunities that the men do, you are on record with your disdain of the women's sport. So spare us your pontficating on how it could flourish under your wise counsel.

You are not, in fact, running the ship. You are a mere cabin boy - bossing around the poor bastards in steerage and bringing the rich people their drinks.

[jwb]

Which brings me to another thought:

I own a small supplement company (AtLarge Nutrition, LLC).  If every person on this site who buys supplements were to support my company via purchasing from us and getting their contacts (friends and family) to do so I could begin to make a difference in bodybuilding.

Let me be clear, I do not consider myself to be a great man but I am someone with integrity and a love for FAIR competition.  Much like I have already begun to do with powerlifting if my company were to grow due to bodybuilding I would pour money back into the sport.  Like most of you who are reading this I very much dislike the problems that abound in the sport now.  There is no need to rehash it all here; you know what the problems are.

Think of it this way, the ad budgets for some of the bigger supplement companies would be more than sufficient to start a new federation that was nicely funded. 

As I have stated in the powerlifting world my goal is to build my company to the point where I can give back to the sports that support it and create a better strength sports world.  I have never said this publicly, buy my ultimate goal would be to grow my company to Weider-like proportions and create new professional bodybuilding and powerlifting federations that were run free of political b.s. and the other unprofessional problems that are so manifest in strength sports today.

Why do I want to do this?  Practically from the day I first started training I loved strength sports of all types and the more I have gotten to know about the inner workings of said sport I have felt really compelled to try to make a difference.  When I see a bodybuilder get ill and have no way to pay his/her medical bills or when I see a powerlifter or bodybuilder have to hold a grueling full-time job while simultaneously being a top-tier athlete in their respective sport I cannot help but think what a travesty that it.  These athletes and their sports help to generate supplement and gear (powerlifting gear)companies millions of dollars yet they don't have a pot to piss in.  BAD DEAL!

Frankly, I feel a bit silly typing this as I am essentially outlining my dream/goal but I think it is important to let others know.  WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE SPORTS YOU LOVE.  IF YOU WANT TO BUILD TOWARDS A BETTER TOMORROW SUPPORT MY COMPANY.

Spam maybe, but this is how I TRULY feel and I feel compelled to say it now.

Man you are a sucker for punishment brother!

If only guys like you controlled things... it would be way better