Move to get the IFBB rules followed!

[G o a t b o y]

Frankly, I feel a bit silly typing this as I am essentially outlining my dream/goal but I think it is important to let others know.  WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE SPORTS YOU LOVE.  IF YOU WANT TO BUILD TOWARDS A BETTER TOMORROW SUPPORT MY COMPANY.

I don't care about competitive bodybuilding.

I do care about the products I buy.

That said, how 'bout offering a protein powder w/o artifical sweeteners?  Sucralose isn't as bad as aspartame, but you should still offer an unsweetened or a sugar or stevia sweetened version.

[dearth]

They may choose to start enforcing the "nude" rules (which I suggest they do)...but they will never NOT suspend someone for crossingg over to a rival federation.

why don't you also suggest the latter (NOT suspend someone for crossingg over to a rival federation.)
since you have an athlete(s) that you claim to represent that would benefit from it?

or is not in your interest to represent the needs of the athletes?

[jwb]

or is not in your interest to represent the needs of the athletes?

no it isn't in chick's interest to do this since he is aspiring to climb the AMI/IFBB totem pole...

[torquemada]

Which brings me to another thought:

I own a small supplement company (AtLarge Nutrition, LLC).  If every person on this site who buys supplements were to support my company via purchasing from us and getting their contacts (friends and family) to do so I could begin to make a difference in bodybuilding.

Let me be clear, I do not consider myself to be a great man but I am someone with integrity and a love for FAIR competition.  Much like I have already begun to do with powerlifting if my company were to grow due to bodybuilding I would pour money back into the sport.  Like most of you who are reading this I very much dislike the problems that abound in the sport now.  There is no need to rehash it all here; you know what the problems are.

Think of it this way, the ad budgets for some of the bigger supplement companies would be more than sufficient to start a new federation that was nicely funded. 

As I have stated in the powerlifting world my goal is to build my company to the point where I can give back to the sports that support it and create a better strength sports world.  I have never said this publicly, buy my ultimate goal would be to grow my company to Weider-like proportions and create new professional bodybuilding and powerlifting federations that were run free of political b.s. and the other unprofessional problems that are so manifest in strength sports today.

Why do I want to do this?  Practically from the day I first started training I loved strength sports of all types and the more I have gotten to know about the inner workings of said sport I have felt really compelled to try to make a difference.  When I see a bodybuilder get ill and have no way to pay his/her medical bills or when I see a powerlifter or bodybuilder have to hold a grueling full-time job while simultaneously being a top-tier athlete in their respective sport I cannot help but think what a travesty that is.  These athletes and their sports help to generate supplement and gear (powerlifting gear) companies millions of dollars yet they don't have a pot to piss in.  BAD DEAL!

Frankly, I feel a bit silly typing this as I am essentially outlining my dream/goal but I think it is important to let others know.  WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR DOLLARS DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE SPORTS YOU LOVE.  IF YOU WANT TO BUILD TOWARDS A BETTER TOMORROW SUPPORT MY COMPANY.

Spam maybe, but this is how I TRULY feel and I feel compelled to say it now.

That is honestly a very nice sand admirable sentiment...






























So what kind of discount can we get?

[Lee_a_priest]

It's not my call, bro...I don't make or enforce the rules. If you're saying ALL the rules should be enforced, LEE...then you're basically saying they should suspend you as well.

You're suggesting an all or nothing proposal, and they aint never going for that in a million years.

They may choose to start enforcing the "nude" rules (which I suggest they do)...but they will never NOT suspend someone for crossingg over to a rival federation.



I'll continue later...gotta go eat.

Yes i am saying suspend me as long as others who break the rules also get suspended.

[jwb]

Yes i am saying suspend me as long as others who break the rules also get suspended.

Kinda like the PBBW radio show (and hosts) which/who break the IFBB rules every single week by simply talking about bbing in a non-positive manner at least once each episode?

[Chick]

Yes i am saying suspend me as long as others who break the rules also get suspended.

...and anyone else who chooses to compete in a non-sanctioned show WILL also be suspended.

They obviously don't view having a few nude photo's for sale on some chick's website as big an issue as competing/ supporting a rival federation...

Like many rules in business...they are put there by tthe company for the sole reason that they can act on it IF THEY CHOOSE TO...

Some of these rules are ridiculous, and basically, non-inforceable anyways....

As I said...these aren't my rules, and there are many I will be challenging as time goes on and times change....one step at a time.

[240 is Back]

...and anyone else who chooses to compete in a non-sanctioned show WILL also be suspended.

They obviously don't view having a few nude photo's for sale on some chick's website as big an issue as competing/ supporting a rival federation...

Like many rules in business...they are put there by tthe company for the sole reason that they can act on it IF THEY CHOOSE TO...

Some of these rules are ridiculous, and basically, non-inforceable anyways....

As I said...these aren't my rules, and there are many I will be challenging as time goes on and times change....one step at a time.

Would you be willing to say all of this on the stand, Bob? 

I mean, if you've truly got the athletes' backs, and Lee goes to court, and you were asked... you would repeat all of this on the stand under oath?

[Lee_a_priest]

...and anyone else who chooses to compete in a non-sanctioned show WILL also be suspended. They obviously don't view having a few nude photo's for sale on some chick's website as big an issue as competing/ supporting a rival federation... Like many rules in business...they are put there by tthe company for the sole reason that they can act on it IF THEY CHOOSE TO... Some of these rules are ridiculous, and basically, non-inforceable anyways.... As I said...these aren't my rules, and there are many I will be challenging as time goes on and times change....one step at a time.

IS THAT BECAUSE JM - JIM'S SON TAKE NUDE PICS OF WOMEN? NUDE PICS! BOB WHAT ABOUT XXX STUFF AND GIRL ON GIRL ACTION THESE GIRLS AND GUYS ARE COMPETING!  NOW I COULDNT CARE WHAT THEY DO HELL IF THEY MAKE A BUCK - GOOD FOR THEM. BUT IF I AM SUSPENDED SO SHOULD THEY BE - OTHERWISE THE RULES ARE A JOKE AND DON'T GIVE ME SOME BULLSHIT REPLY AGAIN PLEASE. BUT YOU DARE COMPETE THAT IS BAD DRUGS, XXX, PORN, NUDES, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY GOOD. MMMMMMMMMM

[jwb]

chick, some girls are doing some pretty sick shit out there dude...

The rules are written to protect the image of the IFBB are they not?

How does Lee competing in some other shows as well as the IFBB hurt their image?

christ arnold competed in the 1970 Mr World the DAY before the 1970 mr olympia for fucks sake! it only helped promote the show even further...

[240 is Back]

IS THAT BECAUSE JM JIM'S SON TAKE NUDE PICS OF WOMEN? NUDE PICS BOB WHAT ABOUT XXX STUFF AND GIRL ON GIRL ACTION THESE GIRLS AND GUYS ARE COMPETING  NOW I COULDNT CARE WHAT THEY DO HELL IF THEY MAKE A BUCK GOOD FOR THEM.BUT IF I AM SUSPENDED SO SHOULDTHEY BE OTHERWISE THE RULES ARE A JOKE AND DON'T GIVE ME SOME BULLSHIT REPLY AGAIN PLEASE.BUT YOU DARE COMPETE THAT IS BAD
DRUGS,XXX ,PORN ,NUDES,CRIMINAL ACTIVITY GOOD.MMMMMMMMMM

F**k web design.  I should have become a pro Bber.  Sounds like a fun job!

[Chick]

Guys....You make posts to me like I'm the one writing the rules, or the one not enforcing them....I have NOTHING to do with it. I'm merely explaining what the IFBB may be thinking on their end.

This whole process was started by Wayne, who selectively chose to enforce what rules he wanted, and to what athletes he wanted to enforce them on. Lee, you of all people should know that... since then, now there is a prescedent for athletes to site former cases of favortism to aid in their own situation. 

The one rule they have NEVER elected to NOT enforce...is the one pertaining to jumping ship. Every athlete in the history of the IFBB who has jumped, has been suspended immediately and without hesitation...THAT presedent doesn't help your situation, unfortunately.

As I stated before, If I were enforcing the rules...I would enforce them all. If they aren't going to be enforced...then GET RID OF THEM. I don't have that authority.

What they will end op doing Lee...is what you're requesting, taking everyone to task for breaking rules. If they elect to do this, it will pretty much kill off womens BB...as for the men, ther isn't that much of the porn stuff out there for it to be a concern, only a scant few would get suspended.

[Chick]

F**k web design.  I should have become a pro Bber.  Sounds like a fun job!

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention....there is no money for LAST PLACE!

Actually, you COULD become a pro BB....I know a guy that can put your name on a list..!

[thisiskeith12]

Why does the IFBB take so long to take initiative?

[Palpatine Q]

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention....there is no money for LAST PLACE!

Actually, you COULD become a pro BB....I know a guy that can put your name on a list..!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[kmhphoto]

Actually, you COULD become a pro BB....I know a guy that can put your name on a list..!

I've heard that the winner of the Mr Getbig competition will get a pro card. As long as the paper work is lost.

[Lee_a_priest]

Guys....You make posts to me like I'm the one writing the rules, or the one not enforcing them....I have NOTHING to do with it. I'm merely explaining what the IFBB may be thinking on their end.

This whole process was started by Wayne, who selectively chose to enforce what rules he wanted, and to what athletes he wanted to enforce them on. Lee, you of all people should know that... since then, now there is a prescedent for athletes to site former cases of favortism to aid in their own situation. 

The one rule they have NEVER elected to NOT enforce...is the one pertaining to jumping ship. Every athlete in the history of the IFBB who has jumped, has been suspended immediately and without hesitation...THAT presedent doesn't help your situation, unfortunately.

As I stated before, If I were enforcing the rules...I would enforce them all. If they aren't going to be enforced...then GET RID OF THEM. I don't have that authority.

What they will end op doing Lee...is what you're requesting, taking everyone to task for breaking rules. If they elect to do this, it will pretty much kill off womens BB...as for the men, ther isn't that much of the porn stuff out there for it to be a concern, only a scant few would get suspended.

THERE IS THE CRIMINAL STUFF THAT BRINGS BAD LIGHT,WAYNE IS GONE NOW FROM THE IFBB SO WHY HASEN'T JIM STARTING ENFORCING THEM?.SO WHY NOT JUST HAVE ONE RULE THEN WHY ALL THE OTHERS IF THEY DON'T ENFORCE ANY?

[Chick]

I've heard that the winner of the Mr Getbig competition will get a pro card. As long as the paper work is lost.

Funny you should mention that Kev....


I read the PDI's requirements and that's where the possible problem is. This is from the NABBA USA site:

""c. Official National titles are the: National Bodybuilding Championships, Junior National Bodybuilding Championships, American National Bodybuilding Championships, American Junior National Bodybuilding Championships, Natural United States Bodybuilding Championships, and Natural American Bodybuilding Championships, GetBig National Championships "

[Chick]

THERE IS THE CRIMINAL STUFF THAT BRINGS BAD LIGHT,WAYNE IS GONE NOW FROM THE IFBB SO WHY HASEN'T JIM STARTING ENFORCING THEM?.SO WHY NOT JUST HAVE ONE RULE THEN WHY ALL THE OTHERS IF THEY DON'T ENFORCE ANY?

I agree.

As I said...enforce the rules. I have no problem with that.

I suppose the athletes could voice their opinion that rules are not getting enforced on other athletes, lets put it to vote at the athletes meeting/ Olympia weekend.

[Lee_a_priest]

I agree.

As I said...enforce the rules. I have no problem with that.

I suppose the athletes could voice their opinion that rules are not getting enforced on other athletes, lets put it to vote at the athletes meeting/ Olympia weekend.

OK I WILL BE THERE! OH I MIGHT NOT BE AN IFBB ATHLETE THEN MMMMM

[thisiskeith12]

OK I WILL BE THERE! OH I MIGHT NOT BE AN IFBB ATHLETE THEN MMMMM

Not if you do porn!

[onlyme]

If I were running the ship...NONE of that shit would have been tolerated from day 1...men or women. This isn't anything new, I've had this discussion dozens of times over the years. It's merely ONE of the reasons womens BB is where it is.

I think those women are close to men that you could and should actually represent them too.  Very disgusting and huge black eye on Bodybuilding.  Now if you can get a rule where some of these fitness girls are required to do some of this stuff then I think the attendance and  populartiy of the women side will increase.

[torquemada]

IS THAT BECAUSE JM JIM'S SON TAKE NUDE PICS OF WOMEN?

Hella good point...seems to help his girls' placings.

[Lee_a_priest]

Hella good point...seems to help his girls' placings.

No there is no politics involved yeah right.You hit the nail on the head

[The True Adonis]

No there is no politics involved yeah right.You hit the nail on the head

Lee,

Do you wish that the IFBB was moved to become totally natural?

Since you say you do VERY well off of drugs, you would perhaps easily be Mr. Olympia, while your competitors would shrink off into oblivion.

If you could make this happen, would you?