Worst Discovery - Belly Ring or SkinnyMini?

[Hedgehog]

Which was a worst discovery ??

Dzulboy Belly Ring or DaddyWaddy's SkinnyMini ??

Great idea with the belly button piercing. I'm considering it.

YIP
Zack

[dookie]

36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt.  I think that will play into the election a lot.  Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.

BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom. 

hey where did you get this 35% number.  im not doubting you read it somewhere, but where, since i would like to read it too.  this is not a jab at your post or anything, im being serious. 

[240 is Back]

hey where did you get this 35% number.  im not doubting you read it somewhere, but where, since i would like to read it too.  this is not a jab at your post or anything, im being serious. 

A third of U.S. public believes 9/11 conspiracy theory

By THOMAS HARGROVE and GUIDO H. STEMPEL III
Scripps Howard News Service
02-AUG-06

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.

Seventy percent of people who give credence to these theories also say they've become angrier with the federal government than they used to be.

Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=CONSPIRACY-08-02-06

[NarcissisticDeity]

36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt.  I think that will play into the election a lot.  Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.

BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.  

79% of Americans consider themselves Christians . this means a majority of people believe in a guy who has a virgin for a mother and a ghost for a father. most people aren't that bright.

How about the first time they tried to blow-up the World Tarde Center in 93? was that the responsibility of the Clinton Adminstration?  how about the attack of the U.S.S. Cole? Al Jezzera released the tape of Bin Laden celebrating the work of his comrades after 9/11 happened. come on get serious.

[TheAnimal]

Yeah I dont think that theory has any credibility given so many lives were lost...

[240 is Back]

79% of Americans consider themselves Christians . this means a majority of people believe in a guy who has a virgin for a mother and a ghost for a father. most people aren't that bright.

Problem with that, is that there are hundreds of engineers, physicists, and chemists who have studied the evidence and come to the conclusion that bombs brought down the towers.  Hundreds of them - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html

How about the first time they tried to blow-up the World Tarde Center in 93? was that the responsibility of the Clinton Adminstration?  how about the attack of the U.S.S. Cole? Al Jezzera released the tape of Bin Laden celebrating the work of his comrades after 9/11 happened. come on get serious.

The "mastermind" of the 93 attacks has a tape recording of the head of the NY FBI Office, giving him the truck and explosives.  He tape recorded it.  FBI guy said it was just a test, then gave them live explosives.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Problem with that, is that there are hundreds of engineers, physicists, and chemists who have studied the evidence and come to the conclusion that bombs brought down the towers.  Hundreds of them - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html

The "mastermind" of the 93 attacks has a tape recording of the head of the NY FBI Office, giving him the truck and explosives.  He tape recorded it.  FBI guy said it was just a test, then gave them live explosives.

Some express concern that individual members of the scholars group and its website are promoting theories or speculation not shared by all members of the scholars group nor the 9/11 Truth Movement (such as the idea that military drone planes were used in the attacks, or that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon[15]) and may thus discredit the movement [16], [17],[18]. Other critics, such as Daryl Bradford Smith[19], believe that members of the Scholars group use 'deliberate deception' by promoting theories which involve hydrogen bombs[20] and links to sites promoting holographic blue sceen planes.[21]

Although the 'Resources' page on the scholars' website states, "We do not necessarily endorse or concur with conclusions or opinions expressed here, but we think that they provide suggestive and stimulating resources for further contemplation," the website provides neither information nor links to both sides of the Pentagon issue, which many regard as extremely divisive within the movement.[citation needed] By only citing the theory that American Airlines Flight 77 could not have crashed at the Pentagon, with no counter argument, the Scholars site reflects neither the diversity within the scholars nor the 9/11 truth movement itself.[citation needed]

Another criticism is based on the "member list" viewable at the website. Detractors[citation needed] point to the following "breakdown" of the scientific disciplines the various members have:

Philosophy, 9 members.
7 with no academic discipline
English/literature 5 members.
Psychology 5 members.
Physics 5 members.
Theology 4 members.
Humanities 3 members.
Engineers 2 members.
They[citation needed] also point to the fact there are 0 Structural Engineers and the few Engineers have little relevant work with the appropriate discipline, for example Judy Wood, who has focused her work on the stresses of dentistry.




Great engineers looking into this one lol one works on the stresses of dentistry lol a whos-who medicoare scholars with too much time on their hands . come Rob you don't seriously by this?

[Hedgehog]

Problem with that, is that there are hundreds of engineers, physicists, and chemists who have studied the evidence and come to the conclusion that bombs brought down the towers.  Hundreds of them - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html

The "mastermind" of the 93 attacks has a tape recording of the head of the NY FBI Office, giving him the truck and explosives.  He tape recorded it.  FBI guy said it was just a test, then gave them live explosives.

You know, a very valid argument could be made that conspiracy theorism grows like weed in the US, and that repeatedly over and over again, people tries to find alternative explanations for just about anything (Elvis, Moonlanding, John Lennon, JFK, Holocaust, area 51)

And there is this idea that The Government is trying to "cover up something". It's a big cover up, and we know it!!!
You'll find many examples of this in movies and TV series, such as The X files, or Alias, to name two series where there is a shadow organisation or hidden agendas or whatever.

But.

Washington has to be more open. Everything that isn't classified should be logged and available to the public.

And when the conspiracy theorists gets their shtick going, what are Washington doing then? Doing the sensible thing by making sure it all can be thoroughly looked at by these wackos?

NOOOOO.

They necessarily have to add fuel to the fire, and do a close down.

Dumb fcuks.

Seems like the Republicans really, really wants Hillary in the White House next term.

The Republicans are gonna match some half ass lamer against her too, so she can't lose, like Condi Rice.

Everyone, from Pat Robertson via O'Reilly to Bush and Cheney is campaigning to get her ass in that building.

Now, that's a conspiracy worth looking into...

YIP
Zack

[240 is Back]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3804970279512923290&q=911+june+2006

Dr Judy Wood, PhD.  -  Summarized bby 240, just for you

----- She starts with her background.  Civil engineering.  Mechanical engineering using composite materials.  Worked at NASA.  Got the PhD in Theroerical & Practical Engineering Applications from Virginia tech.  Did her dissertation on thermal stresses. 

----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down.  Building was unraveling.  Didn't make sense to her.  Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break.  The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree. 

----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete.  This makes perfect sense.  No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete.  Also, not enought energy to buckle columns.  And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both.  This from an expert in the field.

----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly? 

----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it.  Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds. 

----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction.  The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down.  Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.

-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened:  The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it.  This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds).  The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.

----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law.   Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway.  He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing.  He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once.  This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically.  "Gravity is symmterical" was his response.  however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal.  Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory.  Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail.  when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined.  He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-

---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning.  They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened.  Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting.  Just like 911.

----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research.  He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.

----- Point #9 - No pancake.  Would have looked more like an avalanche.  Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud.  How tall would the pile of rubble had been?  10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner.  Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust.  It just makes no sense to this PhD.

----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed.  There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete.  Not one. And not both. 

----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject?  The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group. 

----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks.  Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.

----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain.  However, this fits well with the explosive use theory. 

----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete.  In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust.  Absolute proof here. 

----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation.  At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop.  Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?

[LuciusFox]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3804970279512923290&q=911+june+2006

Dr Judy Wood, PhD.  -  Summarized bby 240, just for you

----- She starts with her background.  Civil engineering.  Mechanical engineering using composite materials.  Worked at NASA.  Got the PhD in Theroerical & Practical Engineering Applications from Virginia tech.  Did her dissertation on thermal stresses. 

----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down.  Building was unraveling.  Didn't make sense to her.  Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break.  The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree. 

----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete.  This makes perfect sense.  No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete.  Also, not enought energy to buckle columns.  And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both.  This from an expert in the field.

----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly? 

----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it.  Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds. 

----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction.  The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down.  Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.

-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened:  The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it.  This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds).  The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.

----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law.   Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway.  He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing.  He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once.  This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically.  "Gravity is symmterical" was his response.  however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal.  Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory.  Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail.  when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined.  He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-

---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning.  They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened.  Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting.  Just like 911.

----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research.  He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.

----- Point #9 - No pancake.  Would have looked more like an avalanche.  Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud.  How tall would the pile of rubble had been?  10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner.  Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust.  It just makes no sense to this PhD.

----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed.  There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete.  Not one. And not both. 

----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject?  The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group. 

----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks.  Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.

----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain.  However, this fits well with the explosive use theory. 

----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete.  In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust.  Absolute proof here. 

----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation.  At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop.  Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?

     

[IFBBwannaB]

36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt.  I think that will play into the election a lot.  Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.

BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.  

Another 240 conspirecy...god you are dumb.Go join those 36% of IQ lacking people.

[Polartec]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3804970279512923290&q=911+june+2006

Dr Judy Wood, PhD.  -  Summarized bby 240, just for you

----- She starts with her background.  Civil engineering.  Mechanical engineering using composite materials.  Worked at NASA.  Got the PhD in Theroerical & Practical Engineering Applications from Virginia tech.  Did her dissertation on thermal stresses. 

----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down.  Building was unraveling.  Didn't make sense to her.  Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break.  The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree. 

----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete.  This makes perfect sense.  No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete.  Also, not enought energy to buckle columns.  And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both.  This from an expert in the field.

----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly? 

----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it.  Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds. 

----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction.  The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down.  Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.

-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened:  The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it.  This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds).  The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.

----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law.   Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway.  He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing.  He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once.  This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically.  "Gravity is symmterical" was his response.  however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal.  Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory.  Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail.  when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined.  He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-

---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning.  They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened.  Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting.  Just like 911.

----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research.  He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.

----- Point #9 - No pancake.  Would have looked more like an avalanche.  Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud.  How tall would the pile of rubble had been?  10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner.  Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust.  It just makes no sense to this PhD.

----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed.  There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete.  Not one. And not both. 

----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject?  The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group. 

----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks.  Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.

----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain.  However, this fits well with the explosive use theory. 

----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete.  In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust.  Absolute proof here. 

----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation.  At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop.  Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?

You forgot this one...

[240 is Back]

IFBBwannaB and Polartec, have you studied the tapes of the tower collapses?

[Disgusted]

I'm with you 240. NEVER thought they came down on their own. What a coincidence that the they are the only two steel skyscrapers ion the world to come down because of fire.  Most of the jet fuel went out the window in the second building. They both fell too perfectly and the saddest part of all is the most of the people believe their shit story. Why and how it was done is not important to me, but it always comes down to two things, money and power.

[240 is Back]

I'm with you 240. NEVER thought they came down on their own. What a coincidence that the they are the only two steel skyscrapers ion the world to come down because of fire.  Most of the jet fuel went out the window in the second building. They both fell too perfectly and the saddest part of all is the most of the people believe their shit story. Why and how it was done is not important to me, but it always comes down to two things, money and power.

Don't forget the biggest smoking gun of them all... WTC7.  Fell identically and was never hit.

[Disgusted]

Don't forget the biggest smoking gun of them all... WTC7.  Fell identically and was never hit.

It was "pulled" as the owner stated on TV. Name was Silverstein??

[240 is Back]

Yep.  I predict they'll make him the fallguy in all of this right before he gets a pardon as Bush leave office , Christmas Eve 2008. 

[brianX]

The 9/11 conspiracy mongers are living in a pure fantasy world, where the Big Bad Government can secretly orchestrate vast conspiracies without anyone finding out. The reality is that every branch of the federal government is subject to tremendous scrutiny by the press and the media. Look at Watergate, the NSA wiretap scandal, and the Valerie Plame affair. Nixon couldn't burglarize a fucking hotel room without the press finding out about it. The New York Times found out about Bush's secret wiretapping program, and that pales in comparison to a possible 9/11 conspiracy. There is simply no way the gang of retards known as "the Bush Administration" could pull off something so complex and so elaborate without leaving a shred of evidence behind. It is a physical impossibility. Someone would've leaked their plans long before they had time to carry them out. This is an indisputable fact.

There is another fundamental flaw with the 9/11 conspiracy theories. They assume that everyone in the US government is an evil traitor who would be willing to go along with a plan resulting in the deaths of thousands of Americans. This is the most revealing assumption of all. It shows that the 9/11 conspiracy theorists have a black and white view of human nature. According to this view, the US government is run by a bunch of "evil" oligarchs hellbent on spreading war and destruction. How else could thousands of government officials carry out this conspiracy so ruthlessly and efficiently?

[240 is Back]

It was just a small group that did it, and many could have been private military contractors from overseas. 

Only a small part of our govt would have had to know about it.  You'll notice that most of the people who did the 911 investigation were involved with the PNAC 2000 document discussing the need for a catalyzing world event - a new Pearl Harbor- to motivate US population and clear permission with world to launch new world order into middle east/asia.    Also, these 911 investigators now run the CIA.

Their justification?  It had to be done to revive our sagging economy in late 2001.  It had to be done to allow the US to get a foothold overseas and secure natural resources. 

Will there be justice?  No.  Bush & Cheney never testified under oath and have clean hands.  They can pardon anyone ever charged. 

In case you don't own a TV, it's everywhere now.  General boards on every topic out there, are buzzing about 911.  FOX news has a piece on 4 nights a week, mocking it.  36% of population believes it happened.  people are running for office on a Re-Open 911 platform. 

It's real. 

[Has Beens]

Check this site out Rob....http://www.freepressinternational.com/911.html

[240 is Back]

Thousands have gag orders - All NY Firefighters and Police included.

‘BOMBS INSIDE WTC’

FIRE OFFICER SAYS FIREMEN, COPS KNOW TRUTH

By Victor Thorn

NEW YORK CITY, N.Y.—On the morning of Sept. 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac Jr. asserted, yet again, that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job. The police know it’s an inside job; and the firemen know it too,” said Isaac.

The ramifications of this statement are immense: One of New York’s own firefighters says publicly that 9-11 couldn’t have been the work of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated and executed by elements within our own government.

He also added, after pointing to throngs of police officers standing around us, that, “We all have to be very careful about how we handle it.”

Isaac reiterated what a 9-11 survivor told this journalist during our protest at Ground Zero on Sept. 11, 2005—that emergency radios were buzzing with information about bombs being detonated inside the World Trade Center towers.

Also, Isaac directly addressed a gag order that has been placed on firemen and police officers in New York.

“It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,” said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9-11. There is more information related to Isaac circulating in on-line and print reports, so here again we are hearing first-hand evidence from individuals who were on the scene, such as live witness William Rodriguez, saying that the World Trade Center towers were brought down not by the airliner’s impact or the resulting jet fuel fires, but instead by a deliberately executed controlled demolition.

Tragically, due to heavy-handed pressure from officials at the city, state and federal levels, we are still not hearing the entire story.

Researcher Vincent Sammartino, who was also at the WTC “open grave site” on the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2005, wrote the following on the on-line news web site APFN: “I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth. Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know that 9-11 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing. I had tears in my eyes.”

[jaejonna]

jezzus christ 240 let it go, the truth will come out, i was there in lower manhattan that day...it sucked

[Stavios]

a dude posted tapes of people calling from the tour when they died a while ago here on getbig

that was.... well....... horrible

[240 is Back]

jezzus christ 240 let it go, the truth will come out, i was there in lower manhattan that day...it sucked

If they brought down a tower and killed 3000 every year... would you want to wait until it comes out on its own?

[jaejonna]

If they brought down a tower and killed 3000 every year... would you want to wait until it comes out on its own?

I watch most of the symposium on the World Trade Center Conspiracy theories that appeared on CSPAN.. I too think that there is too many coinincidences going around. I want to get to the bottom of the whole bull shit too but not to meltdown or anyhting ... that shit was seriously scary as hell and i knew of people (thank God no one close) who perished. It really felt that we were at war, I wasnt home watching it on tv i was running , walking, waiting to get out of Manhattan for like 8 hrs + ... no cell phone, people thinking you might be hurt... Unfortuatnately i am also a pessemist in that who ever put the whole thing is probably going to get away with it. Saddam is a scapegoat, Osama is alive and we dont even know who killed JFK yet.