what's Milos' "special drink"

[240 is Back]

Milos, if you would like to mail me a sample, i would be happy to post an honest analysis of its effects on a workout. 

If you're that confident of it, I'd say send a few bottles to some prominent people on the boards.  If we all swear by it, you can rest assured that many of the mags, atheltes, gym owners, and BBers who read the boards will be interested in buying a case immediately.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Its really not going to make a difference.  Bodybuilding isn`t that strenuous....The guys in the 70s used to work out for 3-6 hours a day and recovered fine...The naturals in the 40s and 50 even did a few hours of full body training and recovered fine...

Just another crap ass supplement.

Not a fair assessment, they didn't have the same supps then as they do now, research has been going on for years and science has come along way with supplements for growth and recovery. But you're right, most are crap!

[migizi]

hey thanks for getting on here Milos...yeah I was just wondering what other people thought it was...did you give any samples to your friends on the vid? .....how did your protege do at the competition you were getting him ready for? the one in your training webisodes,with the glasses?    

[The True Adonis]

Not a fair assessment, they didn't have the same supps then as they do now, research has been going on for years and science has come along way with supplements for growth and recovery. But you're right, most are crap!

Show me a current natural WAY AHEAD of Clarence Ross,John Grimek or Steeve Reeves....

It just goes to show that the supplement industry is a big joke.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Show me a current natural WAY AHEAD of Clarence Ross,John Grimek or Steeve Reeves....

It just goes to show that the supplement industry is a big joke.

I personally wasn't referring to bodybuilders, I was referring to athletes (not being sarcastic).

[RJB]

It's Guinness.

[240 is Back]

if Jay loses at the O ,will you shave your vagina ,yes or  no?

http://fallshineband.com/missing.htm

Won't change the fact that the owning you received still haunts you 12 months later.

[corinth]

Milos is known to be a big fan of Vitargo. I'm guessing the shake is a combo of Vitargo (waxy maize), a whey isolate and probably some buffered creatine and possibly glutamine.

[240 is Back]

Yes, bivens.  You're trying really hard.

but everyone here knows i can sneeze and that tissue will be funnier than anything you put out.  If I chose to devote 15 minutes of my day to a fake webpage, I can completely destroy you like last time, where you didn't come back for 9 months.

At any rate, grow up, douchebag. HTH.

[anvil]

Show me a current natural WAY AHEAD of Clarence Ross,John Grimek or Steeve Reeves....

It just goes to show that the supplement industry is a big joke.

Bingo.  Look at the best naturals from 50 years ago versus the best naturals of today.  NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever.  Supplement companies are laughing their asses off.

[AVBG]

(Milose da li ces prodavati u Srbiji ? )

I think he will.. why ignore his (potentially) most loyal market.. 

[Markoni]

I think he will.. why ignore his (potentially) most loyal market.. 

you are right                   I will first buy and try his supps , but who knows when he will start selling them , he is saying this for a year or maybe even years

[AVBG]

you are right                   I will first buy and try his supps , but who knows when he will start selling them , he is saying this for a year or maybe even years

I would also like to buy his supps, but I don't know if I will ever see them in Australia, we don't get as much variety.

[Alpine]

Milos is known to be a big fan of Vitargo. I'm guessing the shake is a combo of Vitargo (waxy maize), a whey isolate and probably some buffered creatine and possibly glutamine.

I agree. Vitargo (or some other advanced carb), a premium quality isolate, and some creatine gluconate. Everything else (oral glutamine is a joke) would just be marketing/fluff. Would still make a very nice during/post WO shake.

Flashback 50 years....

Meat and Potatoes post workout - Results = same. lol

I hate to burst Milos' bubble but lets assume you workout 45-90min. The 15min difference between what you consume DURING your workout and what you consume RIGHT AFTER is not going to make that much of a difference. The only time carb/protein intake will make a huge difference is if you are talking about long 2-2.5 hour training sessions or some other extended event (cycling, long sporting event, etc.).

All that being said, I still buy supplements and support the industry. Hell I just bought some Gaspari SizeOn today. Half the fun of it is the entertainment value. Im like a kid in a candy store when I get new supplements to try out... sad but true.

[sarcasm]

Yeah right.  Like a supplement will do anything.  Natural training has not progressed in the last 60 years even.  The natural bodybuilders of the 40s carry the same size as todays top naturals.

The only thing you are going to revolutionize is a quicker way to scam some dollars off of naive children and delusional weightlifters.

hahahaha, exactly, these jackasses make it sound as if they travel to the planet Saturn and extract pieces of the ring and dissolve it for it's "anabolic qualities", all of the "supplements" are just knockoffs of real food that's it.

[Mr. Intenseone]

Hell I just bought some Gaspari SizeOn today.

It gives me the runs !

[corinth]

I agree. Vitargo (or some other advanced carb), a premium quality isolate, and some creatine gluconate. Everything else (oral glutamine is a joke) would just be marketing/fluff. Would still make a very nice during/post WO shake.

Flashback 50 years....

Meat and Potatoes post workout - Results = same. lol

I hate to burst Milos' bubble but lets assume you workout 45-90min. The 15min difference between what you consume DURING your workout and what you consume RIGHT AFTER is not going to make that much of a difference. The only time carb/protein intake will make a huge difference is if you are talking about long 2-2.5 hour training sessions or some other extended event (cycling, long sporting event, etc.).

All that being said, I still buy supplements and support the industry. Hell I just bought some Gaspari SizeOn today. Half the fun of it is the entertainment value. Im like a kid in a candy store when I get new supplements to try out... sad but true.

It is kind of funny how we take this supplementation thing to the "nth" degree. Got to get in that simple carb and whey isolate protein shake in immediately after a workout. It can't wait even 10 minutes, it has to be immediately and it has to contain dextrose, not maltodextrin, and the protein has to be an isolate, a concentrate just won't do. What in the world did Arnold and Haney do without all of our high tech supplements? 

[hangclean]

I agree. Vitargo (or some other advanced carb), a premium quality isolate, and some creatine gluconate. Everything else (oral glutamine is a joke) would just be marketing/fluff. Would still make a very nice during/post WO shake.

Flashback 50 years....

Meat and Potatoes post workout - Results = same. lol

I hate to burst Milos' bubble but lets assume you workout 45-90min. The 15min difference between what you consume DURING your workout and what you consume RIGHT AFTER is not going to make that much of a difference. The only time carb/protein intake will make a huge difference is if you are talking about long 2-2.5 hour training sessions or some other extended event (cycling, long sporting event, etc.).

All that being said, I still buy supplements and support the industry. Hell I just bought some Gaspari SizeOn today. Half the fun of it is the entertainment value. Im like a kid in a candy store when I get new supplements to try out... sad but true.

You said it right, Meat and potatoes post workout  - results = same.

[~salmon~]

Its really not going to make a difference.  Bodybuilding isn`t that strenuous....The guys in the 70s used to work out for 3-6 hours a day and recovered fine...The naturals in the 40s and 50 even did a few hours of full body training and recovered fine...

Just another crap ass supplement.

Goddam you're as stupid as you look.  FUCKING DUMB!!!!

[bigcal]

I'm willing to bet its a mix of BCAA's with waxy maize, seems to be "all the rage" lately.

[TooPowerful4u]

I'm willing to bet its a mix of BCAA's with waxy maize, seems to be "all the rage" lately.

wow Milos is gonna hate me for this lol...... guy above pretty much nailed it.....

Waxy Maize (aka vitargo) has an extremely low osmolality rate... which basicly means it passed through your system very quickly (i think 75% faster than any other carb) and is absorbed as a much quicker rate.  This allows anything mixed with it to be absorbed quicker along with it as it will also pass through your system quicker (pending you dont mix it with something that could slow its absorption like a whole protein source or fat).  This means creatine+BCAAs will also be absorbed much quicker (where as if mixed with something like dextrose or maltodextrine... the carb would absorb slower as well as creatine doesnt pass through your system very fast (unless mixed with something such as vitargo aka waxy maize) so it would MISS the insulin spike that you created with your carbs.  Sorry Milos.... but we already nailed the INTRAWORKOUT supplement at Gaspari Nutrition haha .... but we dont use vitargo we have a patent pending carb we call "outlast"  and the most superior form of creatine which blows away ethyl ester (and we have published scientific proof). 

Im too tired and hungry to go into pre and post workout but maybe il come back later haha

[sarcasm]

wow Milos is gonna hate me for this lol...... guy above pretty much nailed it.....

Waxy Maize (aka vitargo) has an extremely low osmolality rate... which basicly means it passed through your system very quickly (i think 75% faster than any other carb) and is absorbed as a much quicker rate.  This allows anything mixed with it to be absorbed quicker along with it as it will also pass through your system quicker (pending you dont mix it with something that could slow its absorption like a whole protein source or fat).  This means creatine+BCAAs will also be absorbed much quicker (where as if mixed with something like dextrose or maltodextrine... the carb would absorb slower as well as creatine doesnt pass through your system very fast (unless mixed with something such as vitargo aka waxy maize) so it would MISS the insulin spike that you created with your carbs.  Sorry Milos.... but we already nailed the INTRAWORKOUT supplement at Gaspari Nutrition haha .... but we dont use vitargo we have a patent pending carb we call "outlast"  and the most superior form of creatine which blows away ethyl ester (and we have published scientific proof). 

Im too tired and hungry to go into pre and post workout but maybe il come back later haha

hahahahaha, so you guys over at gaspari nutrition have a patent on carbs now, huh?

[TooPowerful4u]

It gives me the runs !

Get a pump goin then about 5mins into the workout.....sip it dont chug

[TooPowerful4u]

hahahahaha, so you guys over at gaspari nutrition have a patent on carbs now, huh?

you can patent something if its the first time its used for a specific purpose... you can patent it for THAT purpose..

[sarcasm]

you can patent something if its the first time its used for a specific purpose... you can patent it for THAT purpose..

yeah, no one has EVER used grape juice or other carbs postworkout.