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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #125 on: August 10, 2006, 07:56:17 PM »
Milos I know what is in your special drink, If you dont mind I will tell them exactly what is in your special drink , let me know

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #126 on: August 10, 2006, 11:20:59 PM »
Getitonny "JOHN D.

I know you know because you are the expert when it comes to custom formulations for the Pro's . Didnt you make BOB chic his custom formulation and Pre and Post ? Also I herd that you are the guru when it comes formulating bodybuilding and sports nutritional products.

I talk to Gustavo B. and he mentioned something about that also.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #127 on: August 10, 2006, 11:28:06 PM »
In 2 weeks My company will come out with a new 3 stage product that will literally revolutionize body building supplements .It will make anything and everything ever made for before  workout , preworkout , and post workout obsolete.So be prepared the Doctor is in !!!!!!

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #128 on: August 10, 2006, 11:44:48 PM »
I use whey protein (which includes Luecino and other amino acids you don't have to buy separately), vitamins, ephedra and caffeine.  Everything else is junk except for creatine (which will do little).


If Milos' special supplements work so well he should make a Pro comeback and win the Mr. O.   ::)
Leucine signals protein synthesis, I just started adding extra leucine to my shakes, as it is documented to lead to a greater effect on protein synthesis. Also, you should give Arachidonic Acid(X-Factor) a try. It is the best supplement I've ever tried by far. Most of it is snake oil (oral glutamine), but if you use your head you can find things that give an edge without fucking up your endocrine system.

Milos, if you are looking for anybody to do a review on your stuff on this forum, I am your man. I did a bunch of reviews for Betancourt nutrition a month or two ago.
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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2006, 12:53:12 AM »
Betancourt nutrition   That liitle tennis court company... please brotha please

You might aswell review Rite aid vitamins.

Are you a chemist what genious inovations have you brought to the sports supplement industry?


Leucine signals protein synthesis, I just started adding extra leucine to my shakes, as it is documented to lead to a greater effect on protein synthesis. Also, you should give Arachidonic Acid(X-Factor) a try. It is the best supplement I've ever tried by far. Most of it is snake oil (oral glutamine), but if you use your head you can find things that give an edge without fucking up your endocrine system.

Milos, if you are looking for anybody to do a review on your stuff on this forum, I am your man. I did a bunch of reviews for Betancourt nutrition a month or two ago.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2006, 07:38:56 AM »
I saw an advert where Greg Kovacs said he got to 350lbs by taking muscletech products

If thats not convincing science i dont know what is

How else could a natural bodybuilder like Kovacs get so big ;D



I think I saw that ad too. Was that the one where he then laid down on the free weight bench press and banged out ten reps with 855lbs? I'm told that the World's Ultimate Bastion of Truth and Integrity Bob "suckmymuscle" Kennedy was there and actually weighed the bar and every plate on it afterword, thus unquestionably verifying Kovacs as THE Strongest Man of All Time - thanks to MuscleTech, of course.
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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #131 on: October 27, 2006, 12:53:35 PM »
Adonis owns this thread.  No current naturals blow those guys away.  Case closed.

Actually....the guys of the 50's never looked like this:


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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #132 on: October 27, 2006, 01:12:44 PM »
Protein Powder, the cheapest possible usually which is the GNC brand or the Vitamin Shoppe brand.

They meet their label claims and taste pretty good.

I use protein because it is simply a food supplement and cuts down on the cooking and is convienent.   Its not necessary though.  Just makes things easier.

Why would you possibly need protein powder when you only consume 100 a day?  You can't keep your own bullshit straight.  Oh and by the way, NO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT NATURAL BODYBUILDING.  Get over it already.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #133 on: October 27, 2006, 01:58:06 PM »
Milos' drink sounds like vitargo. A carbohydrate which passes through the stomach, and fills up your glycogen stores very quickly.

http://www.vitargo.com/

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #134 on: October 27, 2006, 03:47:27 PM »
Soon enough I will have 3 products available and I will spend a lot of time promoting it.

After 20+ years of training experience I am 100% convinced that the greatest opportunity for muscle growth occurs DURING and immediately after the training.
While many of you take postworkout shakes few take specific PRE and DURING the workout drinks - THAT COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE.

My partners and I /KOLOSEUM NUTRITIONAL SCIENCES/ will be introducing our "HYPER-ANABOLIC" PRE-DURING-POST WORKOUT DRINKS that (we hope) will revolutionize bodybuilding industry..


Then why haven't you won a major contest?  ??? ??? ???
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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #135 on: October 27, 2006, 04:12:36 PM »
Milos it's always great when a true champion like yourself brings a new product out.Now the Problem with anything Pros promote is,it always gets back to what they the Pros not you,"Use".So wouldn't it be good to be drug tested over 12mths while you are taking your Magic drink,just to show that the results are not from Drugs. ;D

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #136 on: October 27, 2006, 07:21:10 PM »
Really all the supps are there for one reason.....to make money for the manufacturers of them.  There is no magic drink and compared to real food it is not cost effective.  Maybe a good whey protein, some multi-vitamins and anti-oxidants is all you should need along with lots of good real food.  The rest is just making the wallets of the sup industry fat and your's skinny.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #137 on: October 27, 2006, 07:26:09 PM »
Actually....the guys of the 50's never looked like this:



Some looked WAY better.  Wiedner is VERY narrow.  His structure makes him a very good lifter though.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #138 on: October 27, 2006, 07:49:47 PM »
Some of you guys are missing the forest for the trees. The carbs are used to keep your blood sugar from falling too low when taking insulin. DOesn't really matter what you use as long as your blood sugar doesn't go too low.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #139 on: October 27, 2006, 08:05:33 PM »
Some of you guys are missing the forest for the trees. The carbs are used to keep your blood sugar from falling too low when taking insulin. DOesn't really matter what you use as long as your blood sugar doesn't go too low.

white bread, maltodextrin, dextrose.....= simple carbs

you people are kidding yourself if you think that 10 minutes here or there make will make that much of a difference.
focus more on stimulating/maximizing hypertrophy....on this Adonis has some valid points.


oddly enough with all of the superior supplements at our disposable what do we get? a bunch of fat guys consuming more "crap" in search of a magic pill to make then schreded.
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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #140 on: October 27, 2006, 08:21:32 PM »
Some looked WAY better.  Wiedner is VERY narrow.  His structure makes him a very good lifter though.

Adam....the picture (width-wise) doesnt do him much justice.....I competed against him this past Sept.  He isnt that narrow.  Also...none of the pics of the guys from the 50's show the kind of definition Kurt displays....

On a side note....he took 3rd (i believe)....the top two looked phenomenal

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #141 on: October 27, 2006, 09:37:44 PM »
Answer is coming...2007 AD ;)

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #142 on: October 27, 2006, 10:01:24 PM »
I would guess some Gatorade+water mixed with BCAAs, Glutamine, Creatine, Vitargo and Hydrolyzed Whey. 
 
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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #143 on: October 27, 2006, 10:09:22 PM »
simple sugars in the form of dextrose/maltodextin are needed to replenish muscle glycogen after intense training....post training insulin sensitivity is also increased so the simple sugars shuttle any nutrients such as bcaa's, creatine, ect. into the muscle cells...there are many other reasons why proper post workout nutrition is so important.

you guys who think its ok just to eat a pwo solid meal are missing the boat...there is much scientific data out there about the window of opportunity and why a pwo shake is needed for optimal recovery and growth.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #144 on: October 27, 2006, 10:44:29 PM »
simple sugars in the form of dextrose/maltodextin are needed to replenish muscle glycogen after intense training....post training insulin sensitivity is also increased so the simple sugars shuttle any nutrients such as bcaa's, creatine, ect. into the muscle cells...there are many other reasons why proper post workout nutrition is so important.

you guys who think its ok just to eat a pwo solid meal are missing the boat...there is much scientific data out there about the window of opportunity and why a pwo shake is needed for optimal recovery and growth.

I'm not saying that I totally disagree with you, but you need to ask yourself some questions. Why is it important to replenish glycogen after a workout and how does this equate to muscle growth. The average male stores about 300 grams of glycogen in the muscles and about 100 or so in the liver. How much of this are you using during a workout?? I have heard so much talk about how important the molecular weight is as far as the type of carbs used when taking insulin, but no one seems to be able to tell us why it is so important?

Protein is the main nutrient that you need to build muscle and using BCAA are IMO a good idea, but I think that too much emphasis is being put on carbs than protein. Once a muscle is damaged you need protein to rebuild. I also understand about insulin shuttling nutrients into the muscle and this is true, but there is also a huge difference in taking something like Celltech after a workout to stimulate you own insulin levels and taking 15 to 30 units of insulin a day so we may be on two different pages here.

BTW, it's not the sugar that is shuttling or acting as a carrier for the nutrients, but the insulin itself that is creating the anabolic environment and therefore giving your body the ability to repair and stimulate growth of the muscle. I have known plenty of guy to use a low carb diet and grow just the same when using insulin. As long as your essential fats are present you will grow. Remember that the carbs are there to cover the effects of low blood sugar from the insulin. I do not think that carbs are as important as people might think other than for the reasons that I have stated.. I would love to here other opinions as I am always open to knew ideas and info.




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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #145 on: October 27, 2006, 10:49:50 PM »
The Milosification of bodybuilding has contributed to the embarassing physiques like Kamali and Atwood that we see on stage today.  He's bad for the sport, IMO. 

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #146 on: October 27, 2006, 11:14:36 PM »
I agree with Disgusted whereas, I continue to make significant gains while relying on primarily a low carb/moderate fats diet. I value his input on the difference between natural and supplemental insulin. My question is...... How important is vitargo (or any other high GI carb) for achieving the optimal anabolic state in which so many are swearing by? For somebody looking to make optimal offseason gains, should they consider this "insulin spike"? or possibly using insulin everyday?
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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #147 on: October 28, 2006, 12:38:30 AM »
Adam....the picture (width-wise) doesnt do him much justice.....I competed against him this past Sept.  He isnt that narrow.  Also...none of the pics of the guys from the 50's show the kind of definition Kurt displays....

On a side note....he took 3rd (i believe)....the top two looked phenomenal

What does the passage of time have to do with lean ness?  NOTHING!  Anyone can get that lean.  Anyone. 

I will show you what this lean and beyond is with my next pictures to prove it.   I am also eating whatever I want.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #148 on: October 28, 2006, 12:39:42 AM »
Gravity and Ice Cream is all you need.

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Re: what's Milos' "special drink"
« Reply #149 on: October 28, 2006, 12:42:38 AM »
What does the passage of time have to do with lean ness?  NOTHING!  Anyone can get that lean.  Anyone. 

I will show you what this lean and beyond is with my next pictures to prove it.   I am also eating whatever I want.

Passage of time Adam?  I was merely stating that there isnt any pictures of the guys from the 50's that look as lean as Kurt did in that pic.....thats all...