lesson to remember (especially for beginners)

[NarcissisticDeity]

kid,,you living in a dream. not only that you didnt prove your argument but now you making yourself look like a joke. anabolic steroids were available in the usa for ATHLETES since 1940. stevve reeves as i said before ONLY experiemnted with steroid use,,only later in his movie career he was more of so called juicer. so yes he was natural in his competetive career (put aside some experiemnting with rough versions of hormones).

it is exteremly hard to be 6 feet 215 with 5-6% natural. as i said many times before original genetics got nothing to do with size and conditioning achieved through training and "supp". few of the best ever bodybuilders had average minus genetics to begin with (mr. yates had/have horrible genetics)

next time you try to demonstrate your points i suggest looking for other sources than the bodybuilder him/her self. look twards the medical books,,,it might give you more backup.

You make baseless claims and when called on your sources you ignore the question . answer the questions , stop avoiding them.

provide me with your sources that

A) steroids were available since 1940
B) how you know Steve experimented

stop pussy footing around. how do you know he experimented , when he did , what he did and for how long .

[The True Adonis]

hows the training going TA? You looked pretty shredded in those last pics. You are not going to peak too early, are you?

I shouldn`t but I know I will be even leaner after the September date.

I`m taking this shit to the extreme.  I`m going low as possible and am not going to stop until I do.

[danielson]

I shouldn`t but I know I will be even leaner after the September date.

I`m taking this shit to the extreme.  I`m going low as possible and am not going to stop until I do.

Good luck bro, looking good.

[pobrecito]

nobody would be at the olympia without drugs

[pobrecito]

Steeve Reeves would never admit to using steroids, even though he did, becuase it would reduce him from a natural "icon" (which he isn't anyways in my opinion) to a juiced peon

[gh15]

You make baseless claims and when called on your sources you ignore the question . answer the questions , stop avoiding them.

provide me with your sources that

A) steroids were available since 1940
B) how you know Steve experimented

stop pussy footing around. how do you know he experimented , when he did , what he did and for how long .

kid,, do you THINK that i will go and bring quotes for you?? you see why i call you kid now,,
go and read through my posts and you will find everything you look for. do a search on what ever search engine you are using google? yahoo? and you will most likely find what you are looking for. bare in mind that it probably wont change your mind since it is hard to change the mind of the average person,,average media person,,etc,,they all see it as black or white and nothing in between.

not to forgot! (arafat,, may he be wrotten in hell,, used to say not to forget alot )  it is immposible to proof 100% either way due to the fact it was 70-80 years ago and steroids (including many other drugs) were not even classified as scheduled items (no one knew or cared) and it was the beggining of what i call the supreme physiqe era.

look deeply into 1910-1920 and find me someone that resembele a bodybuilder in any way shape or form. you WONT BE ABLE TO,,and im pretty sure you know why my friend

[NarcissisticDeity]

kid,, do you THINK that i will go and bring quotes for you?? you see why i call you kid now,,
go and read through my posts and you will find everything you look for. do a search on what ever search engine you are using google? yahoo? and you will most likely find what you are looking for. bare in mind that it probably wont change your mind since it is hard to change the mind of the average person,,average media person,,etc,,they all see it as black or white and nothing in between.

not to forgot! (arafat,, may he be wrotten in hell,, used to say not to forget alot )  it is immposible to proof 100% either way due to the fact it was 70-80 years ago and steroids (including many other drugs) were not even classified as scheduled items (no one knew or cared) and it was the beggining of what i call the supreme physiqe era.

look deeply into 1910-1920 and find me someone that resembele a bodybuilder in any way shape or form. you WONT BE ABLE TO,,and im pretty sure you know why my friend

Of course you wont bring the quotes to me because you're full of shit. period. you've been exposed for a know-nothing jackass. you made the claim that Steve experimented with them the burden of proof lies on you to prove your claim. admit to me you can't back up your claim.

[Mr. Michael Moore]

look deeply into 1910-1920 and find me someone that resembele a bodybuilder in any way shape or form. you WONT BE ABLE TO,,and im pretty sure you know why my friend

What about Eugene Sandow, himself, GH 15 ?!

[alexxx]

What about Eugene Sandow, himself, GH 15 ?!

He was definetely gay. You can find facts online or just by looking at his photos.

[gh15]

Of course you wont bring the quotes to me because you're full of shit. period. you've been exposed for a know-nothing jackass. you made the claim that Steve experimented with them the burden of proof lies on you to prove your claim. admit to me you can't back up your claim.

you havent learned something very imortant about gh15.

gh15 never lies. go back and read my 600? posts and you will find all your internet proofs and answers. you try to make me bring down a good bodybuilder and i wont do it although i EASILY could.

let him rest in peace kid and keep learning, researching and bodybuilding.

good luck

[NarcissisticDeity]

you havent learned something very imortant about gh15.

gh15 never lies. go back and read my 600? posts and you will find all your internet proofs and answers. you try to make me bring down a good bodybuilder and i wont do it although i EASILY could.

let him rest in peace kid and keep learning, researching and bodybuilding.

good luck

Stop avoiding the questions , provide me with your sources for your claims , put up or shut up. you're the child , children run when questioned about thier lies and thats what you're doing.

show me your sources for your claims. show me links to your claims.

[gh15]

show to the board any links that prove steve reeves never experiemented with hormones. show links of him passing drug tests,,you CANT.

it is obvious none of us can show links because this was 70-80 years ago. hormones were there for the bodybuilder but the proofs of use or not use werent due to the era.

you keep claiming he was natural. prove it 100% then,,you CAN NOT!

as you can notice very clearly i do not avoid any quesiton getbigger asks me,,they all get answered sooner or later,,,i just refrain from bringing here stupid "proofs" like the ones you posted in post number 870 

again people LEARN YOUR BODYBUILDING.

[sarcasm]

show to the board any links that prove steve reeves never experiemented with hormones. show links of him passing drug tests,,you CANT.

it is obvious none of us can show links because this was 70-80 years ago. hormones were there for the bodybuilder but the proofs of use or not use werent due to the era.

you keep claiming he was natural. prove it 100% then,,you CAN NOT!

as you can notice very clearly i do not avoid any quesiton getbigger asks me,,they all get answered sooner or later,,,i just refrain from bringing here stupid "proofs" like the ones you posted in post number 870 

again people LEARN YOUR BODYBUILDING.

try 50 years ago moron.

[pobrecito]

show to the board any links that prove steve reeves never experiemented with hormones. show links of him passing drug tests,,you CANT.

it is obvious none of us can show links because this was 70-80 years ago. hormones were there for the bodybuilder but the proofs of use or not use werent due to the era.

you keep claiming he was natural. prove it 100% then,,you CAN NOT!

as you can notice very clearly i do not avoid any quesiton getbigger asks me,,they all get answered sooner or later,,,i just refrain from bringing here stupid "proofs" like the ones you posted in post number 870 

again people LEARN YOUR BODYBUILDING.

You know, I'd like to see you publish a scientific journal without using "stupid proofs" 

[gh15]

2005-1935= 70,,,rounding it down a little for the locos amongst us

[sarcasm]

2005-1935= 70,,,rounding it down a little for the locos amongst us

WTF are you babbling about? Reeves was barely a teenager in 1935, his heyday was in the 1950's.

[GetItOnNY]

LISTEN STEEVE REEVES WAS ON CELLTECH AND ANATOR 70 ,WHICH HELPED HIM GAIN 70 LBS IN 70 DAYS

[NarcissisticDeity]

show to the board any links that prove steve reeves never experiemented with hormones. show links of him passing drug tests,,you CANT.

it is obvious none of us can show links because this was 70-80 years ago. hormones were there for the bodybuilder but the proofs of use or not use werent due to the era.

you keep claiming he was natural. prove it 100% then,,you CAN NOT!

as you can notice very clearly i do not avoid any quesiton getbigger asks me,,they all get answered sooner or later,,,i just refrain from bringing here stupid "proofs" like the ones you posted in post number 870 

again people LEARN YOUR BODYBUILDING.

Stop deflecting ! you made the claim you provide the proof. stop with the half-ass reverse psychology . You claimed to know he experimented , please site your sources. I provided a direct quote from the man himself denying ever taking steroids and not even hearing of them until the mid 1960s . that is MORE than you have done.


Again show me the direct sources and quotes that say Steve Reeves experimented with steroids. and if you cannot provide links to quotes or references then stop using them , thats called hearsay in other terms bullshit.

[gh15]

sarcasm i suggest for you to do a little more research on steeve reeves and his teenager years where he developed his natural body

also as requested i will i attach pictures of 100% natural bodybuilders of the era before 1925.

one is a picture of mr sandow. exeptionally gifted 100% NATURAL athlete of the early 1900s. FOOD INTAKE ONLY with RESISTENCE TRAINING.

now get out of your illusion and go train

[sarcasm]

sarcasm i suggest for you to do a little more research on steeve reeves and his teenager years where he developed his natural body

also as requested i will i attach pictures of 100% natural bodybuilders of the era before 1925.

one is a picture of mr sandow. exeptionally gifted 100% NATURAL athlete of the early 1900s. FOOD INTAKE ONLY with RESISTENCE TRAINING.

now get out of your illusion and go train

i will absolutely GAURANTEE you that Sandow has more muscle than you would if you were totally natural, plus he was probably stronger than you natural than you are juiced to the gills.

[gh15]

Stop deflecting ! you made the claim you provide the proof. stop with the half-ass reverse psychology . You claimed to know he experimented , please site your sources. I provided a direct quote from the man himself denying ever taking steroids and not even hearing of them until the mid 1960s . that is MORE than you have done.


Again show me the direct sources and quotes that say Steve Reeves experimented with steroids. and if you cannot provide links to quotes or references then stop using them , thats called hearsay in other terms bullshit.

you are lucky i even responding to yoru nonsense because you take precious time from me my friend ,,as i said,, i never lie and got no reason to. go and reread my comments of the subject and see that right as of now you sound like a joke,,,both your "references" and your outlook on real bodybuilding.

[NarcissisticDeity]

sarcasm i suggest for you to do a little more research on steeve reeves and his teenager years where he developed his natural body

also as requested i will i attach pictures of 100% natural bodybuilders of the era before 1925.

one is a picture of mr sandow. exeptionally gifted 100% NATURAL athlete of the early 1900s. FOOD INTAKE ONLY with RESISTENCE TRAINING.

now get out of your illusion and go train

Again don't speculate , provide facts. I have Steve Reeves' books " Building THE CLASSIC PHYSIQUE The Natural Way " And " Chris LeClaire’s Worlds To Conquer " I also have numerous issues of Your Physique , Ironman , Health & Strenght , Muscular Development and Muscle & Fitness , Flex  with articles by and about Steve Reeves .

[The True Adonis]

show to the board any links that prove steve reeves never experiemented with hormones. show links of him passing drug tests,,you CANT.

it is obvious none of us can show links because this was 70-80 years ago. hormones were there for the bodybuilder but the proofs of use or not use werent due to the era.

you keep claiming he was natural. prove it 100% then,,you CAN NOT!

as you can notice very clearly i do not avoid any quesiton getbigger asks me,,they all get answered sooner or later,,,i just refrain from bringing here stupid "proofs" like the ones you posted in post number 870 

again people LEARN YOUR BODYBUILDING.

How come I can show links for the battle of Hasting in 1066?

[gh15]

i will absolutely GAURANTEE you that Sandow has more muscle than you would if you were totally natural, plus he was probably stronger than you natural than you are juiced to the gills.

i have no doubt that mr. sandow was more muscular than me naturally. bigger? dont think so,,stronger? um maybe not sure since he been dead for 100 years ,,,but ya he was exellent bodybuilder.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you are lucky i even responding to yoru nonsense because you take precious time from me my friend ,,as i said,, i never lie and got no reason to. go and reread my comments of the subject and see that right as of now you sound like a joke,,,both your "references" and your outlook on real bodybuilding.

I'm not lucky you're responding . you made a claim thats dubious and I'm calling you out on it , your credibility is on the line NOT mine. you don't lie   you're just very good at running from the truth. answer me this.

Where did you read/hear that Steve Reeves experimented with steroids?
Where did you read/hear the duration and types of steroids he experimented with?
Where did you read/hear how he attained them ?