PDI British NOC

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

so let's see some recent pics

[240 is Back]

so let's see some recent pics

Vince, why post old pics of me?  I've been very gracious about not posting morphed pics of you.

[Lift Studios]

Actually allot of places do not put on their website anything prior to 30 days out.  I'm not sure about this place but that's how it is here at some places.

Also, I now understand why Kevin and Issac and Chic want so many answers about what the PDI does even though they don't care.  It is to basically justify what the IFBB does.  Guys face it, you support a crooked and devious organization.  This is a fact and no one disputes it even you.  They have taken advantage of their members for decades now.  Your unbelievable support of the IFBB regardless of their checkered past, supports the fact that you benefit greatly from their existance and no matter what they do that might be wrong, immoral or legally questionable you are guilty from association.  You belong with the IFBB that is clear.  I feel sorry for you.  But I admit you take good pictures.

Actually Keith I don't give two shits about it, it's funny to see you speak out of both sides of you mouth. You came on here proclaiming the site would be up weeks ago and the reason it wasn't up was because Wayne was hiring a professional to do it. That the site would blow away anything the IFBB would do. I find it hillarious that you are now coming back with this 30 days out bullshit. Any new organization with 1/2 a brain would have a place for interested parties to go to for more information like ticket sales, entry forms, more info. Contrary to popular belief not everyone in the world visits getbig. If you're spending the money to run ads and have marketing materials it's pretty easy to have a basic site up and put for more info visit: . Even YOU know that. Please don't insult us with this waiting 30 days crap for a website. You and  have more excuses the Floyd Landis when it comes to trying to explain the PDI website or lack there of.

 

[Santa Claus]

I guess he was talking about the venue's website, not the PDI website...

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince, why post old pics of me?  I've been very gracious about not posting morphed pics of you.

I only post them when I'm asked to.  Sorry, nothing personal.  Just business

[Disgusted]

Actually Keith I don't give two shits about it
 

Really? Your over a 100 posts tell me otherwise.  

[240 is Back]

I only post them when I'm asked to.  Sorry, nothing personal.  Just business

LOL...

So, let's get this straight.

The IFBB, which doesn't care about the PDI or the peanut gallery, is paying you to post naked pics of internet nobodies.

Pathetic.

[Hedgehog]

Actually Keith I don't give two shits about it, it's funny to see you speak out of both sides of you mouth. You came on here proclaiming the site would be up weeks ago and the reason it wasn't up was because Wayne was hiring a professional to do it. That the site would blow away anything the IFBB would do. I find it hillarious that you are now coming back with this 30 days out bullshit. Any new organization with 1/2 a brain would have a place for interested parties to go to for more information like ticket sales, entry forms, more info. Contrary to popular belief not everyone in the world visits getbig. If you're spending the money to run ads and have marketing materials it's pretty easy to have a basic site up and put for more info visit: . Even YOU know that. Please don't insult us with this waiting 30 days crap for a website. You and  have more excuses the Floyd Landis when it comes to trying to explain the PDI website or lack there of.

 

I doubt it's onlyme's fault that things are not going as planned with the PDI.

So why target him?

I can't believe you guys bitching about this, both PDI and IFBB guys. Guess what: It's not Lee Priest OR Cicherillo who's at fault here. Or onlyme OR LIFT OR 240orBust.


 It all was so fcuking obvious at that press conference where DeMilia told Cicherillo that it wasn't the time to discuss the prize money for those not finishing in the top ten, the prize spread.
DeMilia:-This is not the right time Bob.
Cicherillo: -When IS the right time Wayne?
DeMilia:-(Blank)

Remember who we're dealing with here. DeMilia is a capable guy. But he is an ass as far as I'm concerned, and should be kept on tighter leash than Belladonna in a room of buttplugs.

So if something is lacking with the PDI, it's most likely due to DeMilia screwing the rest of the PDI guys, and they have nothing to do with it. No need to blame them IMO.

YIP
Zack

[Original Sin]

I doubt it's onlyme's fault that things are not going as planned with the PDI.

So why target him?

I can't believe you guys bitching about this, both PDI and IFBB guys. Guess what: It's not Lee Priest OR Cicherillo who's at fault here. Or onlyme OR LIFT OR 240orBust.


 It all was so fcuking obvious at that press conference where DeMilia told Cicherillo that it wasn't the time to discuss the prize money for those not finishing in the top ten, the prize spread.
DeMilia:-This is not the right time Bob.
Cicherillo: -When IS the right time Wayne?
DeMilia:-(Blank)

Remember who we're dealing with here. DeMilia is a capable guy. But he is an ass as far as I'm concerned, and should be kept on tighter leash than Belladonna in a room of buttplugs.

So if something is lacking with the PDI, it's most likely due to DeMilia screwing the rest of the PDI guys, and they have nothing to do with it. No need to blame them IMO.

YIP
Zack

I agree they have nothing to do with the PDI, Wayne doesn't share.
On the otherhand I think that guys like us need to post tough questions on bulletin boards.  There is no other way that we can keep Wayne on his leash.  He has no way of getting info or giving info, at this stage of the game this has got to be a plan. Any website can and would be up and running with the time that Wayne has had, unless he doesn't want the people to know.

Those who say they are for the Athletes should really be throwing the tough questions around and finding out if the PDI signed may/will get screwed over.  No information for the general public is a really bad sign.
Vince and Vinny dropping out of the PDI should scream volumes to the advocates out there.

Let's make sure the PDI is going to start on the right foot so we don't have to tackle a 50 year Juggernaut for changes.

AND I would still like to hear Lee's answer....

[240 is Back]

As I have made it clear that I am nothing more than a fan and a web designer, and I have no inside knowledge of PDI operations...

There are 2 sides to the coin.  On one side, it is always nice for fans to have more info.  We're curious.  As are athletes, promoters, etc.  more info would contribute to growth.

On the other side of the argument - every time the PDI does release something, you have the IFBB toolbox coming onto the boards and going on the radio station, bashing them nonstop and *interfering* with business.  Calling insurance companies, talking to athletes and sponsors, etc...  Does anyone believe that Vince Taylor would have been offered that guest posing the night of the NOC if Wayne had never announced that Taylor was crossing over? 

If it was me, I would only put out the info which was 1) unable to be tampered with through devious means, and 2) useful for growth at the current time.  The less Bob and crew know, the less they can try to belittle, demean, and fcuk up.

And of course, they'll say they don't care.  but hundreds of posts and lots of obvious shadiness say otherwise.

[Hedgehog]

I agree they have nothing to do with the PDI, Wayne doesn't share.
On the otherhand I think that guys like us need to post tough questions on bulletin boards.  There is no other way that we can keep Wayne on his leash.  He has no way of getting info or giving info, at this stage of the game this has got to be a plan. Any website can and would be up and running with the time that Wayne has had, unless he doesn't want the people to know.

Those who say they are for the Athletes should really be throwing the tough questions around and finding out if the PDI signed may/will get screwed over.  No information for the general public is a really bad sign.
Vince and Vinny dropping out of the PDI should scream volumes to the advocates out there.

Let's make sure the PDI is going to start on the right foot so we don't have to tackle a 50 year Juggernaut for changes.

AND I would still like to hear Lee's answer....

Sure. Hearing Lee's answer would be great.

Most important IMO is that it doesn't become a situation where Priest has no way out of the PDI. Where he's forced to compete.

I don't like olives. I do like olive branches however.

YIP
Zack

[240 is Back]

I only post them when I'm asked to.  Sorry, nothing personal.  Just business

Hey, if you want to be known as a guy who will do such things for money, all the power to you.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Hey, if you want to be known as a guy who will do such things for money, all the power to you.

Well, are you going to post some pictures or continue to duck the request?

[240 is Back]

Well, are you going to post some pictures or continue to duck the request?

I posted some new pics on the members area last week.  and I'll be posting new pics on Sept as an entrant to the Mr getbig contest.

Vince, i do find it weird that you would post naked pics to insult somebody, "because you're asked to".  If somebody PMed me and asked me to do that, I would ask them why they lacked the courage to do it themselves.  Then I would examine the situation to see if I really wanted to be known as a guy who will post morphed naked pics of strangers for compensation.  Finally, I would realize that while you may say "nothing personal", posting nude pics of someone is quite personal, and very rude and unprofessional on all levels.

[Stavios]

Hey, if you want to be known as a guy who will do such things for money, all the power to you.

Yeah right, Like vince was really connected with someone at the direction of the IFBB 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I posted some new pics on the members area last week.  and I'll be posting new pics on Sept as an entrant to the Mr getbig contest.

Vince, i do find it weird that you would post naked pics to insult somebody, "because you're asked to".  If somebody PMed me and asked me to do that, I would ask them why they lacked the courage to do it themselves.  Then I would examine the situation to see if I really wanted to be known as a guy who will post morphed naked pics of strangers for compensation.  Finally, I would realize that while you may say "nothing personal", posting nude pics of someone is quite personal, and very rude and unprofessional on all levels.

No, this one was a freebie and only person requested for me to do it.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Yeah right, Like vince was really connected with someone at the direction of the IFBB 

No, I'm not connected to the IFBB and I don't work for them.  I'm not on their payroll or anything.  It is however no concern to anyone as to who I pass along messages for.  As long as the message is heard loud and clear, I could care less

[240 is Back]

No, this one was a freebie and only person requested for me to do it.

I think we can all agree the person who requested it is a coward. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I think we can all agree the person who requested it is a coward. 

I couldn't find your new pictures, where's the link

[240 is Back]

Here you go. 

And Vince, I gotta say, I've lost a bit of respect for you on this one. 

I've stood up for you a lot this week, and praised your business practices and work ethic.  I would think that it is above you to post naked pics of members as freebie favors to IFBB brass.  I thought you were a better man than that, Vince.

[davidpaul]

Here you go. 

And Vince, I gotta say, I've lost a bit of respect for you on this one. 

I've stood up for you a lot this week, and praised your business practices and work ethic.  I would think that it is above you to post naked pics of members as freebie favors to IFBB brass.  I thought you were a better man than that, Vince.

How is posting pics of you, a faVour to the IFBB?

[240 is Back]

How is posting pics of you, a faVour to the IFBB?

I have no clue.  Maybe they feel that posting a pic of a small business owner with a grad degree who doesn't use drugs who supports the PDI is bad for the PDI's image? 

Monster argument there. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Here you go. 

And Vince, I gotta say, I've lost a bit of respect for you on this one. 

I've stood up for you a lot this week, and praised your business practices and work ethic.  I would think that it is above you to post naked pics of members as freebie favors to IFBB brass.  I thought you were a better man than that, Vince.

I appreciate the praise and I've praised your business as well.....


However, 240 remember that you're on Wayne and the PDI's side.  I don't like Wayne and I certainly don't like the PDI.  Its going to dilute the already small group of fans and its an illegitimate organization. 

The USFL, AAU & the WBF were rival organizations but at least they actually had pro-athletes in their division.  The PDI is a hodge-podge mix of of rank amatuers who haven't earned the right to be pros.  At least Vince Galanti listened to our advice and made the wise decision to leave.  He's the only one that had the balls to call out Wayne's B.S and had a lot to lose since he can turn pro at the Master Nationals next year.



Its not you 240 personally, its the PDI that I'm after and anyone associated with Wayne is on my list.  Sorry bro, just doing the job I was asked to do



 

[240 is Back]

I'm not on Wayne/PDI's side.   I'm on the side of free market. 

If the PDI completely destroyed the IFBB and became the monopoly, I would be sitting in the ditches with Bob Chic trying to get a new federation off the ground.

I'm about competition because it gives fans and atheltes more power, and Manion/DeMilia/Weiders LESS.

The only time anyone "wins" is when more than 10% of the atheltes are earning ANY money.  Right now, only a small fraction of guys in either federation are earning a check.  This is bad.  Money needs to be spread more evenly.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I'm not on Wayne/PDI's side.   I'm on the side of free market. 

If the PDI completely destroyed the IFBB and became the monopoly, I would be sitting in the ditches with Bob Chic trying to get a new federation off the ground.

I'm about competition because it gives fans and atheltes more power, and Manion/DeMilia/Weiders LESS.

The only time anyone "wins" is when more than 10% of the atheltes are earning ANY money.  Right now, only a small fraction of guys in either federation are earning a check.  This is bad.  Money needs to be spread more evenly.

And what about the proceeds to DVD sales of the NOC and other related material.  Are the PDI athletes going to see a dime of that?  Wayne is going to keep that money for himself, 240.