Paul Dillet VS Ronnie

[Necrosis]

his quads look like shit in the video you posted along with his calves, were are these amazing quads, and dont post a pick of one of ronnies first shows. compare both at their best.

[pobrecito]

his quads look like shit in the video you posted along with his calves, were are these amazing quads, and dont post a pick of one of ronnies first shows. compare both at their best.

I do give Paul credit for this....as seen in BFTO 98...Dillet's legs as a whole were better than Ronnie's have EVER been. He had everything, glutes, hames, striations, cuts, AND calves to boot!

[Scimowser]

Dillet won nothing? And there i was convinced he won the NOC 

You idiots act like Paul deliberately decided not to work hard. If he was such a poor trainer then how the fuck did he get as big as he did? It is well publicised that he has had multiple arthroscopic operations on his rotator cuffs, the knock on effect of this being he cant exactly use alot of weight without losing control of the movements. He was also so big he couldnt pose correctly, simply because the muscles couldnt flex properly due to their size.

[pobrecito]

He was also so big he couldnt pose correctly, simply because the muscles couldnt flex properly due to their size.

 

you're joking right? Check the 93 olympia video, Dillet tries to hit a lat spread and only spreads out his left lat and then proceeds to go into a seizure...oh wait...his back was too big

[Jerryme7]

Paul cannot pose to save the life of him.With him posing to John Secada I was like, pulease...someone get him off stage. I think I could hear people in the audience laughing at the way he poses. The man couldnt even lip sync well to his posing music. He could not even hold a pose right!

[IceCold]

I do give Paul credit for this....as seen in BFTO 98...Dillet's legs as a whole were better than Ronnie's have EVER been. He had everything, glutes, hames, striations, cuts, AND calves to boot!

i'm suprised you're actually saying someone is better than coleman.  yes, his legs looked incredible in battle for the Olympia.

also, his training in that scene wasnt that bad. or at least from some of the stories that we've heard. 

[pobrecito]

i'm suprised you're actually saying someone is better than coleman.  yes, his legs looked incredible in battle for the Olympia.

also, his training in that scene wasnt that bad. or at least from some of the stories that we've heard. 

I'm a little different than most people in the "truce" thread in that I believe both Dorian and Ronnie have their individual strengths and each would win different mandatories Some people seem to think that one would completely dominate over the other and vice versa and I just don't believe it would be that way

[chris_mason]

Dillet won nothing? And there i was convinced he won the NOC 

You idiots act like Paul deliberately decided not to work hard. If he was such a poor trainer then how the f**k did he get as big as he did? It is well publicised that he has had multiple arthroscopic operations on his rotator cuffs, the knock on effect of this being he cant exactly use alot of weight without losing control of the movements. He was also so big he couldnt pose correctly, simply because the muscles couldnt flex properly due to their size.

I stand corrected if that is the case.  Did he win anything else?  With his incredible genetics should he not have won more than 1 professional bodybuilding show? 

[Jerryme7]

That was the year that Ruhl should have won that contest not Paul.

New York was going crazy when they gave the award toPaul instead of Ruhl..alot of people were pissed..they knew who the real winner was that night. Paul should have never won that show!

[the shadow]

you are a meatbag, paul never had more quality then ronnie or he would of won something. ronnies has way more seperation and detail then paul will ever have. your a fucking guy, did you ever think that maybe he couldnt get better. keep suggesting he would ruled the world while people like ronnie get it done and become 9 times mr o.

dude if paul continued his 1999 NOC form,he owuld have had defeated coleman..long before the word freak existed there was one man who defined the word freak that is big paul dillett..just compare both of them from 1991 to 1999..coleman looked like nothing but a small bitch..seriously you people are just blind and the fact that coleman won 8 sandows has nothing to do with this..paul was the bigger and the thicker guy than ronnie will ever be..paul is the real uncrowned mr olympia..

[natural al]

I stand corrected if that is the case.  Did he win anything else?  With his incredible genetics should he not have won more than 1 professional bodybuilding show? 

Paul won 2 grand prix shows in 1994 defeating Vince "the price" Taylor in the process.

[Necrosis]

honestly of the two videos posted by me and shadow, who looks bigger, in terms of muscle size all over, and not structure. its easy to see ronnies diced to the bone and still bigger then paul. stop with the he would of shit seriously, i bet you would have squated 700 pounds if you dedicated your life to it. he never had it in him, end of discussion. pauls waist is crazy however for a man of his size, no if coleman had that waist his spot as the best in history would be solidified. but i just hate how people say ronnie vs. orville, ronnie vs etc no they wouldnt have beaten him, he won the olympia and he is the champ. his going to blow everyones minds this olympia i love when people downgrade him, this is going to be 03 all over again.

[natural al]

Paul basically stopped progressing in 99, he fell off the face of the planet about that time, maybe he did a show after that but for the most part he was done after 99.  Ronnie didn't really "blow up" in terms of size until after 99 from what I remember, didn't he do the 99 ASC at about 247lbs?  I think paul was ahead of Ronnie in the size game as of 98, condition was about even.  Ron just destroyed paul from the back.  I think if anyone could have kept up with Ron in the size game it was paul.  Realistically Pual could match up very well with Ron on pretty much every bodypart except back as of 98 or 99, he beat Ron on thighs, calves, abs and tri's.  Now if Paul could have kept up with Ron's pace as far as adding size, which there is no indication that he couldn't he had a chance to beat ron...but he didn't so I guess that's all that matters. 

[pumpster]

paul only had one weakness and i admit that his back was not at par with ronnie.like i said if he improved his back by  just 10% he owuld have had been mr olympia forever.and you know the fact that paul from the front just owned ronnie from every angel...

No, he also seriously lacked aesthetics-too vascular, bad skin plus the muscles didn't flow well from one to the other as they do with Coleman. He also had nowhere near Coleman's refinement or muscle quality.

from the front paul blows ronnie away..its no contest man..pauls big chest,big delts,big arms and balanced legs are just too much for big ron to handle

As far as muscle size, never thought I'd see someone with more size than Dillet but Coleman has more size for his frame than Dillet. Coleman's arms, legs and back are proportionately bigger.

[the shadow]

honestly of the two videos posted by me and shadow, who looks bigger, in terms of muscle size all over, and not structure. its easy to see ronnies diced to the bone and still bigger then paul. stop with the he would of shit seriously, i bet you would have squated 700 pounds if you dedicated your life to it. he never had it in him, end of discussion. pauls waist is crazy however for a man of his size, no if coleman had that waist his spot as the best in history would be solidified. but i just hate how people say ronnie vs. orville, ronnie vs etc no they wouldnt have beaten him, he won the olympia and he is the champ. his going to blow everyones minds this olympia i love when people downgrade him, this is going to be 03 all over again.

the thing he if you compare paul to ronnie in 1997,it was pretty evident that paul the real massive guy.for eg at the arnold classic 1997 it was like apples and oranges..paul always had the size and aesthetics..pauls waist was one of the smallest waist of a mass monster.paul made ronnie look like an amateur at arnold classic 1997.and heres an another eg of paul at the olympia 1994 was one of the most best packages i have ever seen in my entire life..like i said if paul continued his 1999 form he would have blown any one away.paul kept on adding size year after after.ronnie was not as big as paul till 2000.hell ronnie will never be big with a small waist..pauls small waist made him appear even bigger...here is pauls posing routine from olympia 1994

now after watching this clip please tell me that was there any pro who was this big with a small waist...
now compare to this video of ronnie from olympia 2004..ronnie is big no doubt but at wat cost..a big waist.even tho ronnie is big by the scale but still a 265lbs paul blowas his ass away and mind you this after a 10yr gap...

[the shadow]

Paul basically stopped progressing in 99, he fell off the face of the planet about that time, maybe he did a show after that but for the most part he was done after 99.  Ronnie didn't really "blow up" in terms of size until after 99 from what I remember, didn't he do the 99 ASC at about 247lbs?  I think paul was ahead of Ronnie in the size game as of 98, condition was about even.  Ron just destroyed paul from the back.  I think if anyone could have kept up with Ron in the size game it was paul.  Realistically Pual could match up very well with Ron on pretty much every bodypart except back as of 98 or 99, he beat Ron on thighs, calves, abs and tri's.  Now if Paul could have kept up with Ron's pace as far as adding size, which there is no indication that he couldn't he had a chance to beat ron...but he didn't so I guess that's all that matters. 

agreed

[Playboy]

agreed

I second that.

[natural al]

No, he also seriously lacked aesthetics-too vascular, bad skin plus the muscles didn't flow well from one to the other as they do with Coleman. He also had nowhere near Coleman's refinement or muscle quality.


As far as muscle size, never thought I'd see someone with more size than Dillet but Coleman has more size for his frame than Dillet. Coleman's arms, legs and back are proportionately bigger.

do you honestly think he lacked asthetics?  very wide shoulders, super small wasit, huge quads...there's your x-frame you guys are always raving about in the truce thread.  Legs were balanced, upper body was balanced....back just lacked detail.  His lats were wide and they inserted pretty low.  Huge traps but they didn't detract from his width.  I don't think you can call someone unasthetic because they are vascular, that's just a bi-product of him beingin shape, some guys have it some don't.  I don't know if you can mark someone down for being vascular, I think it looks kinda cool but I can see where others wouldn't.  His skin tone was a little funky at the end of his run but look at picks from 93-97 and he looked fine, not ashen like he did at his last NOC.  

Ronnie is bigger than paul now but back in 98 I think Paul was equal to Ronnie in terms of size, Ronnie may habe been in better condition but size wise paul could stand next to him and look pretty good.

[the shadow]

No, he also seriously lacked aesthetics-too vascular, bad skin plus the muscles didn't flow well from one to the other as they do with Coleman. He also had nowhere near Coleman's refinement or muscle quality.


As far as muscle size, never thought I'd see someone with more size than Dillet but Coleman has more size for his frame than Dillet. Coleman's arms, legs and back are proportionately bigger.

come on man bodybuilding is all about unreal vascularity..paul had vascularity and size at the same time...dude just tell me wat do ou mean by 'muscles din't flow well fromone to the other'..yeah ronnies gut was as big as the rest of him...haa.man yoy are nothing but a coleman ass licker.how possibly can you say that ronnies muscles did correspond to each other..his crappy triceps,over-developed legs and no calves...his chest just sags too much...

[the shadow]

do you honestly think he lacked asthetics?  very wide shoulders, super small wasit, huge quads...there's your x-frame you guys are always raving about in the truce thread.  Legs were balanced, upper body was balanced....back just lacked detail.  His lats were wide and they inserted pretty low.  Huge traps but they didn't detract from his width.  I don't think you can call someone unasthetic because they are vascular, that's just a bi-product of him beingin shape, some guys have it some don't.  I don't know if you can mark someone down for being vascular, I think it looks kinda cool but I can see where others wouldn't.  His skin tone was a little funky at the end of his run but look at picks from 93-97 and he looked fine, not ashen like he did at his last NOC.  

Ronnie is bigger than paul now but back in 98 I think Paul was equal to Ronnie in terms of size, Ronnie may habe been in better condition but size wise paul could stand next to him and look pretty good.

amazing post man and also an honest one..i think so till 1999 paul was definetly bigger..ronnie was no where near paul size wise till 1999...just look at these videos and judge for youself
heres paul posing at mr olympia 1999..freaky big..

vs
coleman from the same contest

coleman is not even close man and paul has size and aesthetics as well...just look at pauls width

[the shadow]

No, he also seriously lacked aesthetics-too vascular, bad skin plus the muscles didn't flow well from one to the other as they do with Coleman. He also had nowhere near Coleman's refinement or muscle quality.


As far as muscle size, never thought I'd see someone with more size than Dillet but Coleman has more size for his frame than Dillet. Coleman's arms, legs and back are proportionately bigger.

so you were saying'his muscles didn't flow well from one to the other'..hahaa open up your eyes man....

[pumpster]

do you honestly think he lacked asthetics?  very wide shoulders, super small wasit, huge quads...there's your x-frame you guys are always raving about in the truce thread.  Legs were balanced, upper body was balanced....back just lacked detail.

Ya, the vascularity he had was gross; that combo of drugs + genetics has been seen on a few BBs over the decades: too many veins running over areas that are bloated with no underlying cuts = a disturbing unnatural look that Weider doesn't want in a champ when there's a choice. Part of why Yates who wasn't as good was allowed to win so often. Dan Lurie's BBs in the 70s had Dillet's look.

Plus the skin, plus the fact that the muscles didn't have flow in some areas specifically involving his torso.

Nothing to do with his tapers-unreal shoulder/waist and thigh/waist differentials but that has nothing to do with the above.

[donrhummy]

I still say that as much as Ronnie's enormous, he doesn't have any pics/moments where he looked as monstrously inhuman as this:

[pumpster]

That "X" doesn't look so impressive. 

I know what you mean; Dillet had a bigger/taller and more monsterous frame but Coleman's actually bigger re: relative muscle size.

[the shadow]

Ya, the vascularity he had was gross; that looks has been seen on a few BBs over the decades and is basically too many veins running over areas that are bloated that have no underlying cuts = unhealthy and unnatural looking. This drug look is not something Weider wants in a champ when there's a choice, part of why Yates who wasn't as good was allowed to win so often.

Plus the skin, plus the fact that the muscles didn't have flow in some areas specifically involving his torso.

Nothing to do with his tapers-unreal shoulder/waist and thigh/waist differentials but that has nothing to do with the above.

bodybuilding is and will be the sport of the feaks..coleman was nothing but a lil bitch next to paul.pauls veins were just stuffs of legend and that bloated ronnie never i mean never ever had these veins beacuse he had poor conditioning..paul was the real freak and the fact that about 99% of bodybuilders are unnatural and your coleman is also unnatural beacuse this sport involves roids and more roids...so don't say unnatural to paul as if coleman was natural...