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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2006, 08:46:18 AM »
Psst dear.... There is no Union, don't tell anyone <shh>

Bob is a rep because he happened walking by Manions fax machine when Shawn Ray quit.
Think of it as the same way the PDI names its Pros.  Wayne has a "Magic Wand" and taps people on the shoulder and they become magical PDI Pros.

Actually I do  believe it is almost time for the major meeting at the Olympia and this is where they table the names for people who wish to contest the positions of Athlete's Rep.  So anybody could have put their name into the hat for the position and help their fellow pros out in a major way. <cough> Lee <cough>.
Correct me if I am wrong Bob.

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Cicherillo, Gold Ray and Lee Priest are the only three guys willing to openly confront the IFBB on matters over and over again.

They may have had different opinions on issues, but they all were vocal.

Unlike the rest, chickening out. Getting scared of DeMilia.

Fcuking gay4payers.

Lee, Gold and Cicherillo has some balls at least.

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« Reply #76 on: August 19, 2006, 09:00:17 AM »
I'm not a "union rep"....

As "Atletes Rep"...It's my job to EXPLAIN how and why things work...not just blindly defend anyone who has an agenda.

I've already offered to put a anonymous vote at the next Athletes meeting (Olympia)..If there is enough support, I have no problem with submitting a proposal...from what I've seen so far...there simply isn't enough interest.

ok thats cool.maybe there should be a UNION put together then, someone thats prepared to fight for the guys so that the powers that be cant just simply get away with anything they want.if there was enough people it would work,it just takes 1 man to stand up and take the initiative....dunno who that could be ;)

i thought the position you had was supposed to be like a union because i remember reading that a competing ifbb pro shouldnt hold the position because it would be a conflict of interest(i think this was around the time when shawn and titus were arguing about who got the job).thats why i thought it would be like a union rep.

anyway i dont give a shit really it doesnt affect me and you have made some changes in your time,but why should they get to do what they want and everyone has to like it or theyre fvcked

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #77 on: August 19, 2006, 09:10:24 AM »
ok thats cool.maybe there should be a UNION put together then, someone thats prepared to fight for the guys so that the powers that be cant just simply get away with anything they want.if there was enough people it would work,it just takes 1 man to stand up and take the initiative....dunno who that could be ;)

i thought the position you had was supposed to be like a union because i remember reading that a competing ifbb pro shouldnt hold the position because it would be a conflict of interest(i think this was around the time when shawn and titus were arguing about who got the job).thats why i thought it would be like a union rep.

anyway i dont give a shit really it doesnt affect me and you have made some changes in your time,but why should they get to do what they want and everyone has to like it or theyre fvcked



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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #78 on: August 19, 2006, 09:14:16 AM »
Union, Union.... I remember hearing something about that
Bob care to remind me?

me too,but i wasnt 100% sure.i thought it had been said in one of the mags a while ago
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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2006, 09:24:10 AM »
I'm very impressed Lee's attitude and the way he doesn't take himself to seriously. Very refreshing change from a sport dominated by big egos with nothing to back it up.

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« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2006, 11:25:05 AM »
I'm very impressed Lee's attitude and the way he doesn't take himself to seriously. Very refreshing change from a sport dominated by big egos with nothing to back it up.
Thank you.How can you take anything serious these days.Just have fun enjoy life as much as you can.Some one will always complain about who you are,what you do and say.So f u c k them and enjoy :)

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« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2006, 12:11:02 PM »
Lee Priest can press his luck since he's already toast.



Lee, competing in the NOC is about the same as ending your career.  If you had so much faith in the PDI then why are you arguing to compete at the Olympia???  Its simply because you're in it only for the money.  You can care less about "making a difference".  All you have to do is show up and collect 15,000 dollars for beating some rank amatuers.  There is no "real pro" that's going to be onstage to compete against you. 


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« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2006, 01:45:24 PM »
Lee Priest can press his luck since he's already toast.



Lee, competing in the NOC is about the same as ending your career.  If you had so much faith in the PDI then why are you arguing to compete at the Olympia???  Its simply because you're in it only for the money.  You can care less about "making a difference".  All you have to do is show up and collect 15,000 dollars for beating some rank amatuers.  There is no "real pro" that's going to be onstage to compete against you. 




Coming from a retarded banana muncher, I somehow don't think that you're going to be taken too seriously. Lee is world famous in the bodybuilding and fitness circles. You're well known with the sissy boys down Cottonville State Penn. Get a clue man. Nobody has to prove anything to anyone, just themselves.

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2006, 01:48:32 PM »
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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #84 on: August 19, 2006, 01:51:32 PM »
Lee Priest can press his luck since he's already toast.



Lee, competing in the NOC is about the same as ending your career.  If you had so much faith in the PDI then why are you arguing to compete at the Olympia???  Its simply because you're in it only for the money.  You can care less about "making a difference".  All you have to do is show up and collect 15,000 dollars for beating some rank amatuers.  There is no "real pro" that's going to be onstage to compete against you. 




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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #85 on: August 19, 2006, 02:42:17 PM »
Thank you.How can you take anything serious these days.Just have fun enjoy life as much as you can.Some one will always complain about who you are,what you do and say.So f u c k them and enjoy :)

Whats up Lee,

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2006, 06:21:49 PM »
same old
and you?

how about F.'EM / SCRU U   
They might fit :)

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« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2006, 07:10:40 PM »
Bottom line, EVERY IFBB bodybuilder should be shaken Lee's hand and saying good for you AT THE VERY LEAST.  Regardless of the cod of ethics and rules a BB should be able to earn a living.  Since the IFBB does not give even their top guys a salary they should be allowed to go else where to compete......Lee is a LEADER and not a pathetic follower in a ridiculous game where the head guys get rich and some of the competitors that sell tix can hardly pay rent and pose for fags for a living.  Stick to your guns Lee....make creative shirts and sell them to the bodybuilding world before others decide to and capitalize off your move.  I don't understand how another BB that has been in this lifestyle for over 20 years can not back up Lee Priest.     

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2006, 08:39:35 PM »
Bottom line, EVERY IFBB bodybuilder should be shaken Lee's hand and saying good for you AT THE VERY LEAST.  Regardless of the cod of ethics and rules a BB should be able to earn a living.  Since the IFBB does not give even their top guys a salary they should be allowed to go else where to compete......Lee is a LEADER and not a pathetic follower in a ridiculous game where the head guys get rich and some of the competitors that sell tix can hardly pay rent and pose for fags for a living.  Stick to your guns Lee....make creative shirts and sell them to the bodybuilding world before others decide to and capitalize off your move.  I don't understand how another BB that has been in this lifestyle for over 20 years can not back up Lee Priest.     

Yeah, but as is always the case, the person who stands up against the system will get crucified for stepping out of line.

Its a David vs Goliath situation, or in this case Lee vs Weider.




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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2006, 09:11:11 PM »
Lee Priest can press his luck since he's already toast.



Lee, competing in the NOC is about the same as ending your career.  If you had so much faith in the PDI then why are you arguing to compete at the Olympia???  Its simply because you're in it only for the money. 



Why cant a Professional bodybuilder be in it for the money. Isn't that what professional means. He is entitled to make money as a bodybuilder, as much moneys as he can.

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2006, 09:18:03 PM »
Bob life is a problem sometimes isn't it.Now go play on the freeway :)  and don't take it so serious there is more to life then all this.Hope you realize that oneday Bob.
Oh Bob will when he gets his head out of the IFBB ass and realizes there is more to life than just Bob ;)

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2006, 10:12:45 PM »
To Lee Priest from Jerry Brainum

On 21 January 1983, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Tennessee, a judgment order was entered that prohibited a physique federation, from penalizing, punishing, or “interfering in any way” with any member who participates in another federation's physique contest. Such participation includes entry into, promotion of such a contest, or officiating at a contest. In addition, that federal court order stated that the federation may not “condone, ratify or facilitate, or permit such actions by any member or affiliate of the federation . . .” It also required the federation to “take all steps reasonably necessary to remedy any” such prohibited conduct. The right of all athletes to participate in competition without fear of interference from other organizations has thus been reaffirmed in federal court.

If this is true, the IFBB could be in violation of the law if it prevents a qualified competitor, such as Priest, from competing in the Olympia because he also chooses to compete in another federation's contest. I think that a professional should be able to compete in any contest he or she chooses, especially considering that these federations provide no income, other than contest winnings, nor do they provide any benefits, such as medical, and so on.



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The IFBB has been notorious for prohibting bodybuilders from entering other federation events. As far back as 1975, Dennis Tinnerino won the IFBB Pro Mr. Universe in Los Angeles, but Ben Weider stripped him of the title and gave it to 2nd place winner Bob Birdsong. Ben Weider stated that because Tinnerino had enter a WBBG contest, he was banned from the IFBB unless he reapplied for reinstatement. I spoke with Dennis the night of his stolen victory, and he said no one would ever know that he beat Franco Columbu and all the rest that night. Franco had entered the contest--which he promoted himself--but withdrew after the prejudging saying that he was too busy running the contest to compete. Rumor has it was Franco saw the prejuging score cards and seeing he didn't win, pulled of the evening show. Tinnerino looked great and even Arnold said that Dennis was in the best shape of his life that night. If you don't believe me, ask Dick Tyler or Bill Pearl who were two of the judges. Dennis did get to keep the first place prize money of $1500, but not the title.



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Funny that you mention Tinerino, Gene. I had lunch with him earlier today. I've known Dennis for over 40 years, dating back to Brooklyn, when we would train together occasionally. Dennis mentioned that he felt that he should have won the 1980 Mr.Olympia, since he believed that was when he was in his best shape. He said that Arnold looked awful at that show. I told Dennis about the time that I attended a pro meeting held at Gold's gym years ago. I had just talked to Dave Johns, who told me that he had received a letter from the IFBB suspending him because he had just competed in, and won the NABBA Mr.Universe contest. Dave told me that he found this suspension curious, since he had never joined the IFBB. When I asked Ben Weider about this at the pro meeting, rather than answer the question, he changed the subject completely. Frankly, I just don't understand why and how any "federation" should limit where a pro competes. It seems monopolistic to me.



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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2006, 11:10:40 PM »
To Lee Priest from Jerry Brainum

On 21 January 1983, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Tennessee, a judgment order was entered that prohibited a physique federation, from penalizing, punishing, or “interfering in any way” with any member who participates in another federation's physique contest. Such participation includes entry into, promotion of such a contest, or officiating at a contest. In addition, that federal court order stated that the federation may not “condone, ratify or facilitate, or permit such actions by any member or affiliate of the federation . . .” It also required the federation to “take all steps reasonably necessary to remedy any” such prohibited conduct. The right of all athletes to participate in competition without fear of interference from other organizations has thus been reaffirmed in federal court.

If this is true, the IFBB could be in violation of the law if it prevents a qualified competitor, such as Priest, from competing in the Olympia because he also chooses to compete in another federation's contest. I think that a professional should be able to compete in any contest he or she chooses, especially considering that these federations provide no income, other than contest winnings, nor do they provide any benefits, such as medical, and so on.



From Gene Mozee


The IFBB has been notorious for prohibting bodybuilders from entering other federation events. As far back as 1975, Dennis Tinnerino won the IFBB Pro Mr. Universe in Los Angeles, but Ben Weider stripped him of the title and gave it to 2nd place winner Bob Birdsong. Ben Weider stated that because Tinnerino had enter a WBBG contest, he was banned from the IFBB unless he reapplied for reinstatement. I spoke with Dennis the night of his stolen victory, and he said no one would ever know that he beat Franco Columbu and all the rest that night. Franco had entered the contest--which he promoted himself--but withdrew after the prejudging saying that he was too busy running the contest to compete. Rumor has it was Franco saw the prejuging score cards and seeing he didn't win, pulled of the evening show. Tinnerino looked great and even Arnold said that Dennis was in the best shape of his life that night. If you don't believe me, ask Dick Tyler or Bill Pearl who were two of the judges. Dennis did get to keep the first place prize money of $1500, but not the title.



From Jerry Brainum


Funny that you mention Tinerino, Gene. I had lunch with him earlier today. I've known Dennis for over 40 years, dating back to Brooklyn, when we would train together occasionally. Dennis mentioned that he felt that he should have won the 1980 Mr.Olympia, since he believed that was when he was in his best shape. He said that Arnold looked awful at that show. I told Dennis about the time that I attended a pro meeting held at Gold's gym years ago. I had just talked to Dave Johns, who told me that he had received a letter from the IFBB suspending him because he had just competed in, and won the NABBA Mr.Universe contest. Dave told me that he found this suspension curious, since he had never joined the IFBB. When I asked Ben Weider about this at the pro meeting, rather than answer the question, he changed the subject completely. Frankly, I just don't understand why and how any "federation" should limit where a pro competes. It seems monopolistic to me.




Great post.  It says allot about the person who would want to support an organization like the IFBB and the Weiders. 

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2006, 12:30:57 PM »
I'm not a "union rep"....

As "Atletes Rep"...It's my job to EXPLAIN how and why things work...not just blindly defend anyone who has an agenda.

I've already offered to put a anonymous vote at the next Athletes meeting (Olympia)..If there is enough support, I have no problem with submitting a proposal...from what I've seen so far...there simply isn't enough interest.

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« Reply #94 on: August 20, 2006, 12:51:05 PM »
Bob is not a rep of any kind.  Athletes Rep is stretching it allot, he basically reps himself. Athletes is plural.  In reality he is a liaison.  He basically repeats what is told to him to the IFBB members. And in return he will voice to the IFBB what he thinks is appropriate.  He acts as a "buffer" between the two parties.  Thats it.  A rep would actually go to the IFBB representing the best interest of the member as an individual also.  Especially in BB since there are so few of them.  He has no real power at all.  The IFBB dictates what power he has.  Ultimately the IFBB will do what it wants.  As in other sports or organizations, the members come together to create power.  Power is in numbers.  That is a fact.  The IFBB is the boss right now.  The only way to get anything done in reality is to bring all the members together and "strike" until what they want is met.  How long do you think the IFBB and the mags can stay in business without the BB's who get them all their marketing power.  Don't show up to the Olympia and see what happens.  You have to be tough and you have to be inpartial.  Bob is neither.  Sure he has a very big mouth but can't back anything up.  What he should be doing is personally call every single IFBB Pro and get them to come together create some demands, submit to the IFBB and be ready to strike if they aren't met.  But Bob IS NOT the person to get this done.  He can't.  His boss is the IFBB.  He owes them.  He does what they want and say.  He is NOT impartial and does not belong in the position he is in. It's too bad the pros are such pussys.  You have less than a handful of pros who speak up.  The rest are slaves to the IFBB and its sad to see such big guys with no balls or pride.  Why is the fuck would anyone want to be an IFBB pro is beyond me.  Very insecure and desperate are also two other requirements to be a pro

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Re: Lee Priest owns on the radio show!
« Reply #95 on: August 20, 2006, 01:17:21 PM »
its sad to see such big guys with no balls

All the steroids have shrunk them!

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Why is the f**k would anyone want to be an IFBB pro is beyond me.  Very insecure and desperate are also two other requirements to be a pro

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« Reply #96 on: August 20, 2006, 05:41:51 PM »
Great post.  It says allot about the person who would want to support an organization like the IFBB and the Weiders. 

Below is the actual finding:

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
SOUTHERN DIVISION

THE AMATUER ATHLETIC UNION
OF THE UNITED STATE, INC.,
JAMES LOWE, LEE BURNS AND
JERRY BURNS,

PLAINTIFFS

VS.

THE NATIONAL PHYSIQUE
COMMITEE OF THE U.S.A.,
INC., THE SOUTHESATERN
ASSOCIATION OF THE NATIONAL
PYSIQUES COMMITTEE FO THE
U.S.A., INC., THE SOUTHEASTERN
PHYSIQUE COMMITTEE, THE
TENNESSEE BOARD OF ADVISORS
OF THE SOUTHEASTERN PHYSIQUE
COMMITTEE, MIKE KIZER AND JAMES MANION

DEFENDANTS

CIVIL ACTION NO. 1-82-83

STIPUATION AND ORDER

IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED by and between the undersigned attorneys for the parties that,

WHEREAS, the plaintiffs have commenced this action against the defendants charging the defendants with violations of various federal anti-trust statues, and WHEREAS, the defendants have counter-claimed against the plaintiffs charging the plaintiffs with violations of various anti-trust statues and seeking relief on other grounds, and

WHEREAS, the Court entered and signed its order and preliminary injunction of June 3, 1982,

NOW, THEREFORE, it is agree as follows:

1. The defendents, including the National Physique Committee of the U.S.A., Inc., The Southeastern Association of the National Physique Commitee of the U.S.A, Inc., The Southeastern Physique Committee, the Tennessee Board of Advisors of the Southeastern Physique Committee, Mike Kizer and James Manion agree to continue their stated policy of not imposing any sanctions upon or otherwise penalizing or punishing or threatening to impose any santions upon (or otherwise penalilzing or interfereing in any way with any persons on account of that persons' participation in any physique contest sanctioned by the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, Inc., ("The AAU"),) whether such person participates as an athlete, a promoter, a sponsor, or otherwise and will not condone, ratify, facilitate or permit such actions by any member or affiliate of the NPC for so long as the defendants (other than the NPC) remain as members or affiliates of the NPC. The defendants will take all steps reasonby necessary to remeday any violation of their stated policy as set forth above, which violation comes to their attention.

2. Defendants further agree to email a copy of this stipulation and order to the NPC's Board of Governors and an officer of the NPC shall cerfity that such mailing has been accomplisehd within (30) days of this stipulation and order.

3. The AAU agrees to maintain its stated policy of not enforcing Section 454.10(a) of its 1982 Official code.

4. All claims for relief contained in the complaint and answer and counter-claim are withdrawn with prejudice and without cost to any party against another.

5. The preliminary injunction previously entered and signed on June 3, 1982, is hereby dissolved and the bond posted by the plaintiffs in connection with that order and the preliminary injunction is hereby exonerated.

6. This stipulation shall not be demed an adjudication of liability against or an admission of liability by any party.

It is actually only a court ruling and stipulation. Although, I believe it will set precedence when applied to Lee's litigation. The same precedent should apply to a Pro organization as it does to amateur organizations. I believe if and when Lee challenges this in court, he will prevail. Now go knock the f*ck out of them Lee!

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« Reply #97 on: August 20, 2006, 05:58:41 PM »
This has been visited before, more then I can remember
This ruling only applies to athletes with amateur status.  When they become Professional Athletes the ruling has no bearing anymore.

I still think that this is just only Lee's way of going out in a "Blaze of Glory", not a political stance to bring down the hierarchy.  Just an excuse to blame others for him losing interest in the professional competitive body building circus.

I guess like everybody else it will be a wait and see if either the IFBB or Lee have the fight necessary.
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« Reply #98 on: August 20, 2006, 06:08:22 PM »
This has been visited before, more then I can remember
This ruling only applies to athletes with amateur status.  When they become Professional Athletes the ruling has no bearing anymore.

I still think that this is just only Lee's way of going out in a "Blaze of Glory", not a political stance to bring down the hierarchy.  Just an excuse to blame others for him losing interest in the professional competitive body building circus.

I guess like everybody else it will be a wait and see if either the IFBB or Lee have the fight necessary.
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Actually I think you may be wrong in this one. Yes, the ruling was related to amateur athletes. However, as explained in my comment, the original basis for the litigation was anti-trust violations and therefore germane to Lee's litigation should it go forward. As precedent has already been set in the above ruling, I believe it can be used as the basis for Lee's litigation as well as both meet the criteria of anti-trust violations.

All this being said, an argument can be made that the IFBB has deep pockets. However, I believe good council will bring litigation and publicity. Once an entity such as the ACLU gets wind of this, they will be chomping at the bit to either take over the case or assist as co council. If this happens, I can assure you not many organizations have the resources, both monitary and legal expertise as the ACLU.