Author Topic: What kills you more - the diet or cardio? (Read 13135 times)

pobrecito · « **Reply #100 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:02:03 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 16, 2006, 12:59:07 PM

Keep singing your delusional song. You cry about EFA`s like they are some wonder drug...They will not keep Testosterone levels up to any noticeable degree. But go ahead, waste your money of Flaxseed. Go ahead eat your fat, and wonder why you don`t even have a vein in your forearm. haaa clown.

you are fighting scientifically supported evidence that healthy fats are a necessity to keeping testosterone levels as high as possible (.5g/LBM minimum). Why you choose to fight this I don't know and make assinine comments towards me I don't know. You know nothing about gluconeogenesis yet tell me it's a fallacy that you can't lose muscle in a caloric defecit

YOU are the delusional one.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #101 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:03:34 PM »

Pobrecito. Post a pic bro. Back up the facts with results. I'm being serious.

Bast000 · « **Reply #102 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:06:49 PM »

hahaaha yeahah hahahaha Probrecito is feeding the fat,. hahaha oh brother!!!!!!!!!!!!

powned!

The True Adonis · « **Reply #103 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:07:33 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 16, 2006, 01:02:03 PM

you are fighting scientifically supported evidence that healthy fats are a necessity to keeping testosterone levels as high as possible (.5g/LBM minimum). Why you choose to fight this I don't know and make assinine comments towards me I don't know. You know nothing about gluconeogenesis yet tell me it's a fallacy that you can't lose muscle in a caloric defecit YOU are the delusional one.

Do you have any idea how fucking HIGH your fat intake would be to promote a fluctuation in Testosterone levels? Even then it wouldn`t make much of a difference at all.

When dieting for fat loss,in a caloric defecit, You simply CANNOT have a high enough fat intake to do anything. You will end up in a surplus of calories and then the result is stored bodyfat.

pobrecito · « **Reply #104 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:07:47 PM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on August 16, 2006, 01:03:34 PM

Back up the facts with results

I have no need to do this. The facts have already been "backed up" in several peer reviewed medical journals. Once I find the link I am looking for I will post it up.

pobrecito · « **Reply #105 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:09:15 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 16, 2006, 01:07:33 PM

Do you have any idea how fucking HIGH your fat intake would be to promote a fluctuation in Testosterone levels? Even then it wouldn`t make much of a difference at all.

When dieting for fat loss,in a caloric defecit, You simply CANNOT have a high enough fat intake to do anything. You will end up in a surplus of calories and then the result is stored bodyfat.

You need to rearrange your macros. You doubt the high importance of healthy fats like many others. You will learn in time.

wood · « **Reply #106 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:10:10 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 16, 2006, 12:39:36 PM

Thats not true either.

Different body types. Plus I do look full in full body pictures......Looking full is another bullshit term in actuallity and so is the carb up process for a natural.

i'm just saying you looked more full in your chest last year, that's all.

as lean as you are, a high carb day now and again would actually help you more than hurt you btw...

The True Adonis · « **Reply #107 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:10:44 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 16, 2006, 01:07:47 PM

I have no need to do this. The facts have already been "backed up" in several peer reviewed medical journals. Once I find the link I am looking for I will post it up.

Your "peer Reviewed Journal" DOES NOT apply to someone trying to get to 3-4 percent bodyfat.

That is for healthy eating perhaps or athletic performance....Even then Ingesting fat really won`t do much to Natural Testosterone levels at any point.

You actually think 20-30 more fat grams is really going to initiate a considerable Hormonal Response?

You are an idiot.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #108 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:13:09 PM »

Quote from: wood on August 16, 2006, 01:10:10 PM

i'm just saying you looked more full in your chest last year, that's all.

as lean as you are, a high carb day now and again would actually help you more than hurt you btw...

It wouldn`t help. It wouldn`t do anything actually....It is not going to make me stronger and I NEVER run out of energy and the body does not adapt to a low defecit.

So why bother?

My chest is the same if not a bit bigger this year by the way

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #109 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:14:17 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 16, 2006, 01:07:47 PM

I have no need to do this. The facts have already been "backed up" in several peer reviewed medical journals. Once I find the link I am looking for I will post it up.

No, you see that's EXACTLY what you have to do. You're telling a guy who's proved that what he does worked and you're sitting in your tower telling him it's wrong. Don't give me fucking book knowledge. Post a PICTURE of you applying your knowledge to your body and WORKING. If you can't do that then you're the same as a fat doctor telling a patient how to lose weight.

pobrecito · « **Reply #110 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:14:23 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 16, 2006, 01:10:44 PM

Your "peer Reviewed Journal" DOES NOT apply to someone trying to get to 3-4 percent bodyfat.

That is for healthy eating perhaps or athletic performance....Even then Ingesting fat really won`t do much to Natural Testosterone levels at any point.

You actually think 20-30 more fat grams is really going to initiate a considerable Hormonal Response?

You are an idiot.

Yes, it does apply to anyone, in fact, when going down to 5% or lower, the importance of healthy fats INCREASES...becuase your androgen levels will be down in the gutter.

You need .5g/lb LMB minimum fat intake. You should be around 100g of fats per day. And to your statement that EFAs are worthless, well, chew on this:

Essential fats such as the Omega 3 fatty acids (found in fish and flaxseed) and saturated fats are essential for normal testosterone production. All steroid hormones are produced from cholesterol and when fats are deficient in the diet, this process will be inhibited. Studies clearly indicate that low fat diets result in lower testosterone levels. Those higher in protein, lower in carbohydrate, and moderate in fat cause the greatest sustained levels of testosterone.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #111 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:15:38 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on August 16, 2006, 01:14:23 PM

Yes, it does apply to anyone, in fact, when going down to 5% or lower, the importance of healthy fats INCREASES...becuase your androgen levels will be down in the gutter.

You need .5g/lb LMB minimum fat intake. You should be around 100g of fats per day. And to your statement that EFAs are worthless, well, chew on this:

Essential fats such as the Omega 3 fatty acids (found in fish and flaxseed) and saturated fats are essential for normal testosterone production. All steroid hormones are produced from cholesterol and when fats are deficient in the diet, this process will be inhibited. Studies clearly indicate that low fat diets result in lower testosterone levels. Those higher in protein, lower in carbohydrate, and moderate in fat cause the greatest sustained levels of testosterone.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH hes advocating 100 grams of fat plus!

D E L U S I O N A L.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #112 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:16:39 PM »

Looks like poopbrecito is trolling wikipedia.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #113 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:17:57 PM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on August 16, 2006, 01:16:39 PM

Looks like poopbrecito is trolling wikipedia.

hahahahah Lets go get our Flaxseed Oil and have a flax party.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #114 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:19:49 PM »

Get him a shower cap so he can rinse wherever he wants. hahahahahahahahahah rack chins for everybody. They make you .00000000000000000001% more anabolic.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #115 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:23:07 PM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on August 16, 2006, 01:19:49 PM

Get him a shower cap so he can rinse wherever he wants. hahahahahahahahahah rack chins for everybody. They make you .00000000000000000001% more anabolic.

Maybe I`ll buy a fannypack full of MCT oils...............That might make me 000000000000000000000000 0000000000029% more anabolic while dieting.

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #116 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:24:25 PM »

hahahahahahahah yeah. Perhaps if I take some CLA stacked with MSG and some Altoids I'll be able to spur my testosterone to an 18year old swedish swim team members level

give me a fucking break

Marty Champions · « **Reply #117 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:33:41 PM »

you dont loose muscle when dieting if you are natural. but you do lose volume because of a lack of carbs and fats that are stored INSIDE your muscles....oh yeah you guys are stupid that is why i am the king

The True Adonis · « **Reply #118 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:34:03 PM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on August 16, 2006, 01:24:25 PM

hahahahahahahah yeah. Perhaps if I take some CLA stacked with MSG and some Altoids I'll be able to spur my testosterone to an 18year old swedish swim team members level

give me a fucking break

haahaaaaahahahaha

Don`t forget your Kre-Alkalyn so you can fuel your MONSTER HARDCORE 6-9 set WORKOUT hahahahahaahah

These people have no clue.

jaejonna · « **Reply #119 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:36:40 PM »

Quote from: daddywaddy on August 16, 2006, 01:33:41 PM

you dont loose muscle when dieting if you are natural. but you do lose volume because of a lack of carbs and fats that are stored INSIDE your muscles....oh yeah you guys are stupid that is why i am the king

Daddy is holding more water than lake michigan...

Marty Champions · « **Reply #120 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:36:48 PM »

i think i agree with one thing though in this lame thread. people tend to not eat enough fat though in certain circumstances. no need for me to really explain though since i am the master

Marty Champions · « **Reply #121 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:37:46 PM »

me and the adonis are light years and many galaxies above you pee-ons

Slick Vic · « **Reply #122 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:43:10 PM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on August 16, 2006, 12:51:59 PM

I feel like the circus is in town.

Getbig is the circus!

Overload · « **Reply #123 on:** August 16, 2006, 01:49:50 PM »

i hate cardio...prefer to diet similar to adonis and bast. my only difference is i slowly drop calories week by week until i hit 2000. at 2000 calories a day i shed fat very quickly and i only do 45 minutes of cardio 2-3 times a week. mainly for health and i enjoy swimming outside.

Author Topic: What kills you more - the diet or cardio? (Read 13135 times)

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