Shawn Ray 94 on youtube

[donrhummy]

Interesting how a 1994 Olympia competitor looks like a present day Team Universe competitor size-wise.....things that make you go hummmmm......

That's a pretty stupid comment. Show me a Team U guy that looks remotely like this:

[willie mosconi]

Interesting how a 1994 Olympia competitor looks like a present day Team Universe competitor size-wise.....things that make you go hummmmm......

that is a really stupid comment to make. Shawn looks better than any current pro. the 90s were the best decade for bb by far

[IceCold]

that is a really stupid comment to make. Shawn looks better than any current pro. the 90s were the best decade for bb by far

and who dominated the 90's?

[willie mosconi]

and who dominated the 90's?

Dorian, but he didn't deserve at least 2 of his Mr Os, especially the 94 O

[Hulkster]

Dorian, but he didn't deserve at least 6 of his Mr Os, especially the 94 O

agreed

[Bast000]

Chad Nicholls ruined pro bodybuilding single-handedly. 

Before Ronnie got together with him, Ronnie was huge but not a GH mess that he later became.  Then others had to follow the lead of taking drugs to catch up to Chad Nicholl's Frankenstein clients.

[IceCold]

I have always maintained that overall, the three best ever physiques (all with flaws mind you) are:

Shawn Ray (1994 Olympia)

Flex Wheeler (1993 AC)

Ronnie Coleman (2001 AC)

(in no particular order)

This video of shawn only helps to illistrate this.





Fantastic - much much better than Dorian's mess that year.

i knew you just couldnt resist.

was this more of a mess than ronnie 'beating' jay cutler at 2001?  at least dorian didnt loose any of the rounds.

funny thing about the list you posted.  guess who beat all 3 of those guys?  2 of which where in the same year that you posted them (shawn in 94 and flex in 93 in which he said that dorian was untoucable.  never did say that about ronnie).  

[IceCold]

agreed

and ronnie has?

[HRDCOR]

Thats what I call Bodybuilding !!!, Shawn's posing makes the sport look like a actual ART FORM , it actually makes the sport look legitimate and worthy !!
His shape and condition is inspirational to all novices as it looks achievable and healthy. Shawn and Lee Labrada lent a ART FORM to the sport that no other have done since .

[Bast000]

I bet Shawn lip syncs in the mirror naked to that music wearing lipstick and a blonde wig.

[HRDCOR]

I bet Shawn lip syncs in the mirror naked to that music wearing lipstick and a blonde wig.                               

Stop being such a ALPHA MALE and look deep inside yourself to find your feminine side !!

[Hulkster]

was this more of a mess than ronnie 'beating' jay cutler at 2001? 

positively yes.

Ronnie had a better back than Jay in 2001. Better arms. Better chest. Better taper. Hence a debatable contest.

Dorian had...wider lats than Shawn in 1994. and more size. That's it. not much to go on is there?

[Hulkster]

and flex in 93 in which he said that dorian was untoucable.  never did say that about ronnie). 

yes he did.

2003.

 

[willie mosconi]

I bet Shawn lip syncs in the mirror naked to that music wearing lipstick and a blonde wig.

wanna see a really gay seeming posing routine- none other than Batman Baker

[NarcissisticDeity]

positively yes.

Ronnie had a better back than Jay in 2001. Better arms. Better chest. Better taper. Hence a debatable contest.

Dorian had...wider lats than Shawn in 1994. and more size. That's it. not much to go on is there?

Ronnie lost both the symmetry & muscularity rounds to Cutler in 01 and Ronnie won both posing rounds to beat Jay by just 4 points a VERY controversial contest.

Shawn Ray was trailing Kevin Levrone by 6 points going into the night show in 1994 and just barely beat Levrone for second place , Dorian was never in danger of losing that contest.

blind hero-worship allows your flawed thinking that 01 wasn't close and pure bias makes you think 94 was close . its all good you've never been accused of being a rational thinker.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie lost both the symmetry & muscularity rounds to Cutler in 01 and Ronnie won both posing rounds to beat Jay by just 4 points a VERY controversial contest.

Shawn Ray was trailing Kevin Levrone by 6 points going into the night show in 1994 and just barely beat Levrone for second place , Dorian was never in danger of losing that contest.
blind hero-worship allows your flawed thinking that 01 wasn't close and pure bias makes you think 94 was close . its all good you've never been accused of being a rational thinker.

you keep acting like the judging in these contests was correct and spot on.

any fool can see that it wasn't

[NarcissisticDeity]

you keep acting like the judging in these contests was correct and spot on.

any fool can see that it wasn't

You keep acting like you know better than the judges. and its only ' spot-on ' when its concerned with Ronnie  and questionable with Dorian when in fact most multiple Olympia winners had some questionable wins . so keep thinking you know more than the judges.

[Hulkster]

You keep acting like you know better than the judges. and its only ' spot-on ' when its concerned with Ronnie  and questionable with Dorian when in fact most multiple Olympia winners had some questionable wins . so keep thinking you know more than the judges.

keeping thinking that you can judge bodybuilding contests on paper without opening your eyes.

Myself and EVERYONE who has said that Dorian did not deserve to win in 1994 has done so based on our own visual assesement of thier physiques on that night.

Your assesement is based on the scorecard alone.

 

compare dorian here to the shawn routine posted. (this clip doesn't show much of Shawn but focases on Dorian)

Dorian had better calves, and wider lats.

but as far as overall quality goes, he would soundly defeated that night.

[NarcissisticDeity]

keeping thinking that you can judge bodybuilding contests on paper without opening your eyes.

Myself and EVERYONE who has said that Dorian did not deserve to win in 1994 has done so based on our own visual assesement of thier physiques on that night.

Your assesement is based on the scorecard alone.

 

compare dorian here to the shawn routine posted. (this clip doesn't show much of Shawn but focases on Dorian)

Dorian had better calves, and wider lats.

but as far as overall quality goes, he would soundly defeated that night.

Again you're basing you assesment on your OWN personal perferences and again with this EVERYONE nonsense , stop seeking comfort in numbers , all that matter is the JUDGES declared he was the obvious winner and not a close winner like Coleman 01 and their opinions are the ONLY ones who matter because they decide who wins and who don't.

[Hulkster]

stop seeking comfort in numbers

there are very, very few people who feel that Dorian deserved to win in 1994.

that, when combined with the overwhelming visual evidence, would indicate that Shawn was robbed.

Personal preference?

You prefer this:





to this:




you clearly have no idea what muscular qualities are important in a bodybuilding contest..

Its not all about size.

[Jr. Yates]

awesome comparison. I love Yates and his mentality towards training but physque wise, I prefer Shawns.

[IceCold]

you keep acting like the judging in these contests was correct and spot on.

any fool can see that it wasn't

funny, how whenever dorian is involved in a contest and wins, its always the judges were wrong. 

but with coleman, the judges are always right.   

even ronnie knew he lost to jay when he was holding up two fingers.  ronnie's back was better, but that was it.  just look at any of the pics. 

[IceCold]

there are very, very few people who feel that Dorian deserved to win in 1994.

that, when combined with the overwhelming visual evidence, would indicate that Shawn was robbed.

Personal preference?

You prefer this:





to this:




you clearly have no idea what muscular qualities are important in a bodybuilding contest..

Its not all about size.

yes, i prefer dorian and the judges did as well. 

the first picture you posted of yates is one of his best.  i'm suprised you actually showed a good pic of him for once. 

hulkster, one question:

are you black?

[Fletch]

Shawn WAS mrO 1994.
Judges think the big man with one bicep was...so he got the check and the statue.

Shawn may be a lot of things, good and bad, but he was MrO 1994 - just not in wieders eyes

[donrhummy]

keeping thinking that you can judge bodybuilding contests on paper without opening your eyes.

Myself and EVERYONE who has said that Dorian did not deserve to win in 1994 has done so based on our own visual assesement of thier physiques on that night.

Your assesement is based on the scorecard alone.

 

compare dorian here to the shawn routine posted. (this clip doesn't show much of Shawn but focases on Dorian)

Dorian had better calves, and wider lats.

but as far as overall quality goes, he would soundly defeated that night.

WOW. Can anyone do a screenshot of Dorian's back double bicep pose there? He actually looks narrow (for Dorian)!