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Author Topic: OH SNAP.... government's warrantless surveillance program... bbbyyy bbbyyyyyy...  (Read 2003 times)
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« on: August 17, 2006, 02:45:11 PM »

DETROIT - A federal judge ruled Thursday that the government's warrantless surveillance program is unconstitutional and ordered an immediate halt to it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060817/ap_on_go_pr_wh/warrantless_surveillance
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2006, 03:00:20 PM »

It's stupid. IMO who cares if the Government wants to "listen in" on certain private conversations. The Government is not randomly listening, but have specific targets.

There are over 2 billion people in the US. If each person made 5 calls a day each lasting a half hour average, how many hours would the Government have to log? Please. This is just another "rights are being violated" scenario.

Terrorists and Extremists believe in nothing but their goal. They cannot be reasoned with or accommodated.
If the US Government feels that these people are a threat to the US, your family, my family, my friends......then why even be concerned if they are eavesdropping?
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2006, 04:40:46 PM »

It's stupid. IMO who cares if the Government wants to "listen in" on certain private conversations. The Government is not randomly listening, but have specific targets.

There are over 2 billion people in the US. If each person made 5 calls a day each lasting a half hour average, how many hours would the Government have to log? Please. This is just another "rights are being violated" scenario.

Terrorists and Extremists believe in nothing but their goal. They cannot be reasoned with or accommodated.
If the US Government feels that these people are a threat to the US, your family, my family, my friends......then why even be concerned if they are eavesdropping?

You're making the assumption that no one in power will EVER use the info obtained for shady purposes.  If you decide to sue someone for something or run for office, and suddenly a tape emerges of you cheating on your wife 5 years ago, will you feel the same way?

Problem is, you cannot ever give any group ABSOLUTE power because they will become corrupted.  history has shown that every time a group has complete power, they abuse it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2006, 04:45:20 PM »

You're making the assumption that no one in power will EVER use the info obtained for shady purposes.  If you decide to sue someone for something or run for office, and suddenly a tape emerges of you cheating on your wife 5 years ago, will you feel the same way?

Problem is, you cannot ever give any group ABSOLUTE power because they will become corrupted.  history has shown that every time a group has complete power, they abuse it.

You are right.  I want a dam judge to ok it first.  Checks and balances.....  don't forefit our rights in the name of FEAR.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2006, 05:59:47 PM »

You are right.  I want a dam judge to ok it first.  Checks and balances.....  don't forefit our rights in the name of FEAR.
Wow, I'm shocked.... Nicely said. Grin
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2006, 06:03:30 PM »



There are over 2 billion people in the US.

really?

oh and taping calls is bad karma
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2006, 06:18:22 PM »

There are over 2 billion people in the US.

Do your research, man.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2006, 07:15:49 PM »

LOL, I didn't see that... 2 Billion people,.... Roll Eyes What did oldschool do?  Fact check his stats with McDonald's Over 2 Billion Served sign. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2006, 07:21:34 PM »

he just made a mistake,  he knows how many peeps in the US
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