Went to a seminar here given by Dave Draper at MidCity Gym on 49th street. There was another old guy up on the platform with him, I said to myself why is the accountant for the gym up there, I guess he must be a fan. He was fat bald, sickly pale and looked like he never lifted a weight in his life, I mean never.. Then he started giving advice to guys about lifting. I was like WTF!!!, Turns out the dude was Mike Katz, former Mr. America. I am tellin you dudes he looked horrible, nothing about him said that he was Mr. America. His wife, sorry but she was just as fat and just plain ugly. I can't imagine when the meet new people and tell them the Mike was MR. America, they must be laughed at. Seriously dude, he looks horrible. I walked home stunned, totaly depressed and thought about never lifting again. Damn if Im gonna look like that forget it. Whats the point. But then I returned to my state of denial and I am back in the gym.