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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2006, 11:15:49 AM »
Let's see what one week difference between the Europa Super Show and the Montreal Show does for Kamali. Never lose hope and faith...

Now this is interesting, wonder if someone can give a serious response, as no one did from before - Question for Mr. Shawn Ray, Mr. Lee Preist or Mr. Bob Chic. Where would you start in regards to improvements? Is it possible to get rid of the gut Kamala has?

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2006, 11:17:09 AM »
Let's see what one week difference between the Europa Super Show and the Montreal Show does for Kamali. Never lose hope and faith...



It'll give him another week to make things worse

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2006, 11:18:34 AM »
Let's see what one week difference between the Europa Super Show and the Montreal Show does for Kamali. Never lose hope and faith...



Don`t be stupid.

You can`t remove 10 inches on each side of the gut without a medical scalpel.  And add 4 inches to each arm without a plastic surgeon in a week.

Perhaps he is dressing up in a muscle suit and then competing.

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2006, 11:19:47 AM »
I'll bet my last Anadrol tablet that if king does not place at least top five at the Montreal, he should hang up his trunks for a while and reconsider what the fcuk is wrong with him
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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2006, 11:20:35 AM »
if the assertion that Kamali is carb loading too quickly and shooting insulin to speed the uptake, it could explain some of the distention. we'll have to wait and see . . .

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2006, 11:35:31 AM »
Is this a reversible thing or is it permanent? Discuss.

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Committing seppuku works i'm told but he definitely won't compete or survive for that matter if he uses it.

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2006, 12:59:00 PM »
He should start HERE:

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2006, 03:41:15 PM »
Appearanly not, seems to be like that all year round.........



That's quite a sweat mark..

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2006, 04:32:42 PM »
1.  Erase everything you've BEEN doing.
2.  Take off until the winter shows.
3.  Look at these pictures and do whatever the hell you were doing to get back there.
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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2006, 12:55:12 PM »
1.  Erase everything you've BEEN doing.
2.  Take off until the winter shows.
3.  Look at these pictures and do whatever the hell you were doing to get back there.


His hair is starting to go too.  Not the end of the world, but it shows that his system really is breaking down.  God knows what the pics from the Montreal show will look like.

I think what is happening is that at 34 y/o, he is seeing that at most he last like 5 years left in this sport.  In that time frame, given the current state of things, he knows that he is never going to win the Olympia with Jay and many others still in the game and probably will have to do something drastic to win a show, on any level.  Is it worth risking your health over? 

If you look at his early pics, he looked good, symetrical, and with potential.  Somewhere along the way, something happened, perhaps too much eating?  Too much drugs?  who knows.

It is sad for sure.  Threatening lawsuits is a joke. 

I will say however, the "train wreck" factor is very entertaining.   

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2006, 08:17:38 PM »
He can always just "JUMP" :-[

He already did that...a few years ago...but he was just laying on the ground barely breathing until last Saturday when 16 others stepped on him and put him out of his misery.
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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2006, 08:39:50 PM »
He could come out of the closet and announce he is Gay , it wouldn't fix his gut but it would give everyone something else to talk about  rather than his gut !!!!


No no don't mention it , pleased to help where I can ! :D

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2006, 08:54:11 PM »
Let's see what one week difference between the Europa Super Show and the Montreal Show does for Kamali. Never lose hope and faith...

Now this is interesting, wonder if someone can give a serious response, as no one did from before - Question for Mr. Shawn Ray, Mr. Lee Preist or Mr. Bob Chic. Where would you start in regards to improvements? Is it possible to get rid of the gut Kamala has?


It's a simple solution, really.....It's using the right tools for the right job.

King is using the wrong technique (IMO)...the carb loading is not working in his favor. Some people can shove food down their throats and they will carb up very nicely...others will hold a ton of water, and look better vdepleated....KIng's body responds better to the latter.

Why do you think his 2 week out, 1 wek out photo's always looked so impressive? What changes in those last few days? Simple....CARB loading. King has made the appropriate changes and will come in MUCH less carb loaded, much drier, and with a MUCH smaller waistline.

Another technique is to spread out the meals and cut down th volume per meal...this also will allow the stomach to shrink accodingly, without having to hold (and process) such a large volume of food.

I predict Kings best showing since the 2001 I.M.

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2006, 08:59:24 PM »

It's a simple solution, really.....It's using the right tools for the right job.

King is using the wrong technique (IMO)...the carb loading is not working in his favor. Some people can shove food down their throats and they will carb up very nicely...others will hold a ton of water, and look better vdepleated....KIng's body responds better to the latter.

Why do you think his 2 week out, 1 wek out photo's always looked so impressive? What changes in those last few days? Simple....CARB loading. King has made the appropriate changes and will come in MUCH less carb loaded, much drier, and with a MUCH smaller waistline.

Another technique is to spread out the meals and cut down th volume per meal...this also will allow the stomach to shrink accodingly, without having to hold (and process) such a large volume of food.

I predict Kings best showing since the 2001 I.M.

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2006, 09:03:06 PM »
hey chick....how many days does kamali usually load?

seems like alot of guys make the mistake of a 3 day carb load...it could be done in half that time especially when using insulin.

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2006, 09:04:46 PM »

It's a simple solution, really.....It's using the right tools for the right job.

King is using the wrong technique (IMO)...the carb loading is not working in his favor. Some people can shove food down their throats and they will carb up very nicely...others will hold a ton of water, and look better vdepleated....KIng's body responds better to the latter.

Why do you think his 2 week out, 1 wek out photo's always looked so impressive? What changes in those last few days? Simple....CARB loading. King has made the appropriate changes and will come in MUCH less carb loaded, much drier, and with a MUCH smaller waistline.

Another technique is to spread out the meals and cut down th volume per meal...this also will allow the stomach to shrink accodingly, without having to hold (and process) such a large volume of food.

I predict Kings best showing since the 2001 I.M.

Great post until the last line ;D

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2006, 09:10:10 PM »
hey chick....how many days does kamali usually load?

seems like alot of guys make the mistake of a 3 day carb load...it could be done in half that time especially when using insulin.

Well, theres two ways you can go...use less time and more carbs, or use more time and a slower carb load (mostly with carbs lower on the Glycemic index potato, oatmeal, etc.)

Problem with loading fast is most guys will use high sugar foods for quicker loading, which usually result in a crap-shoot, hoping you don't spill over, over carb etc.

Less time and LESS carbs is the smarter way to go...if it aint broke, don't break it!


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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2006, 09:15:00 PM »
I could eat all the carbs I could handle and my stomach looks damn near the same.  I don't understand what these Pros are talking about with this carbup BS.   Sure you may look smoother but your waist isn't gonna gain 5 inches.   Kamali's waist is simply too big. 

He can eat 0 carbs for a week and it will still be too big.

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2006, 09:15:20 PM »
I predict Kings best showing since the 2001 I.M.
Maybe, but against whom? In 2001, he went up against Coleman, Cormier, Dennis, Dexter, Melvin at the Arnold and actually beat Dexter and Melvin by taking 4th. He'll be lucky to get 4th in a 2006 show where the best guys are:
1) A 42 yr old washed-up Paul Dillett
2) A bloated and ruined Art Atwood
3) Perennial 2nd tier pros like Johnnie Jackson, Darrem Charles, George Farah and Quincy Taylor
4) Perennial 3rd tier losers like Henderson Thorne, Idris El Ward, Frank Roberson and Rodney St. Cloud

Let's compare apples to apples. The competition has gone down the shitter and King is doing worse each year.

Pop Quiz for Chick: Can you spot the trend?

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2005 Arnold 11th

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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2006, 09:25:56 PM »
Maybe, but against whom? In 2001, he went up against Coleman, Cormier, Dennis, Dexter, Melvin at the Arnold and actually beat Dexter and Melvin by taking 4th. He'll be lucky to get 4th in a 2006 show where the best guys are:
1) A 42 yr old washed-up Paul Dillett
2) A bloated and ruined Art Atwood
3) Perennial 2nd tier pros like Johnnie Jackson, Darrem Charles, George Farah and Quincy Taylor
4) Perennial 3rd tier losers like Henderson Thorne, Idris El Ward, Frank Roberson and Rodney St. Cloud

Let's compare apples to apples. The competition has gone down the shitter and King is doing worse each year.

Pop Quiz for Chick: Can you spot the trend?

1996 Nationals 11th
1997 Nationals 8th
1998 Nationals 3rd
1999 Nationals 1st
2001 Arnold 4th
2004 Arnold 8th
2005 Arnold 11th

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Yeah, I can spot the trend...it's consistant with what I've stated...not just for KIng, but for many pro's.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard the phrase..."Hasn't looked this good since he turned pro..." in reguards to 2nd/ 3rd year pro's.

What the common denominator? WEIGHT.

King weighed 225 lbs. when he won the Nationals and turned pro in 1999...2 years later, achieved his best ever conditioning at the Ironman and Olympia at 241-242 lbs., still held on in 2003 at the NOC at 245....every show since thn has come in anywhere from 245-258 lbs.

The key for him, is to come in at HIS best weight...not everyone else's best weight.

He comes in at 245-46 at the Montreal...it's a diferent deal. Who he's competing against is irrelevant...were comparing King against King.

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2006, 09:31:33 PM »
Pop Quiz for Chick: Can you spot the trend?

1996 Nationals 11th
1997 Nationals 8th
1998 Nationals 3rd
1999 Nationals 1st
2001 Arnold 4th
2004 Arnold 8th
2005 Arnold 11th

psst... bob...

trend (trĕnd)
n.
The general direction in which something tends to move.
A general tendency or inclination.

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2006, 09:32:02 PM »
Well, theres two ways you can go...use less time and more carbs, or use more time and a slower carb load (mostly with carbs lower on the Glycemic index potato, oatmeal, etc.)

Problem with loading fast is most guys will use high sugar foods for quicker loading, which usually result in a crap-shoot, hoping you don't spill over, over carb etc.

Less time and LESS carbs is the smarter way to go...if it aint broke, don't break it!


i agree everyone is different...i saw king on a video a few years ago talking about "shit loading"... can be easy to go overboard and ruin everything in the last few days.

i see guys getting good result from a more controlled carb up...but i think its best to stay with the high glycemic carbs to start then switch over to potatos...especially if your doing a depletion phase before the carb up....the glycogen sintetase is very fast right after a depletion ...but it seems like the guys who carb up only on potatos are the same guys who always look best monday after the show.


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Re: IS THERE ANYTHING KAMALI CAN DO TO GET RID OF HIS GUT??
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2006, 09:34:56 PM »
Yeah, I can spot the trend...it's consistant with what I've stated...not just for KIng, but for many pro's.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard the phrase..."Hasn't looked this good since he turned pro..." in reguards to 2nd/ 3rd year pro's.

What the common denominator? WEIGHT.

King weighed 225 lbs. when he won the Nationals and turned pro in 1999...2 years later, achieved his best ever conditioning at the Ironman and Olympia at 241-242 lbs., still held on in 2003 at the NOC at 245....every show since thn has come in anywhere from 245-258 lbs.

The key for him, is to come in at HIS best weight...not everyone else's best weight.

He comes in at 245-46 at the Montreal...it's a diferent deal. Who he's competing against is irrelevant...were comparing King against King.

he can control his weight but his symmetry is unchangable (for the better) .....its only getting worse, even if he droppd 25 lbs the waist just looks bigger and the arms and legs smaller.  its done, over, finished, but at least it provided us youngsters a warning which we had better heed
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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2006, 09:37:02 PM »
psst... bob...

trend (trĕnd)
n.
The general direction in which something tends to move.
A general tendency or inclination.

psst...Rob...

Yes...the "TREND" has been that the heavier King has competed, the worse he has done....

The "general direction" of his weight has tended to move up...

The "general tendency" has been to place him lower as a result...

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Re: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut?
« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2006, 09:37:07 PM »
I predict Kings best showing since the 2001 I.M.

Do you base this statement upon your friendship with him, or actual bodybuilding knowledge?

I mean, he may be able to bring the belly down if he doesn't load up as much, but his arms and legs are a lot smaller than they were in 2001.