Author Topic: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut? (Read 16072 times)

240 is Back · « **Reply #75 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:37:55 PM »

Quote from: Chick on August 31, 2006, 09:37:02 PM

psst...Rob...
Yes...the "TREND" has been that the heavier King has competed, the worse he has done....

1996 Nationals 11th
1997 Nationals 8th
1998 Nationals 3rd

What did he weigh in 96-98?

Special Ed · « **Reply #76 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:38:27 PM »

Quote from: Chick on August 31, 2006, 09:25:56 PM

Who he's competing against is irrelevant...were comparing King against King.

Agreed. So are you the only one who can't see that the difference between King 2006 and King 2001 is not 5-10 lbs as you say, but more glaring differences:

1) His waist has gotten substantially thicker (at least 3-4 inches).
2) His legs are not as big or cut as they used to be.
3) His conditioning from the rear (his old trademark) is completely shot.
4) His arms have actually gotten worse in shape and size.
5) His calves appear to have gotten smaller.
6) He has lost all of his taper.
7) His belly appears to be permanently bloated (the way Titus used to be when King mocked him at the NOC).

His face appears to have aged 10 years in 5 years.
9) His thick Arabian hair is disappearing.
10) His fanbase has disappeared faster than a Big Mac in front of a post-contest Lee Priest.

In other words, it's not the WEIGHT, it's the AGING of the SHAPE.

We saw the same thing happen with Gaspari, Fux, Sonbaty, Atwood. Once the placings drop...they NEVER return.

Special "Or Maybe It's just Me" Ed

HRDCOR · « **Reply #77 on:** August 31, 2006, 09:41:43 PM »

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Now this is interesting, wonder if someone can give a serious response, as no one did from before - Question for Mr. Shawn Ray, Mr. Lee Preist or Mr. Bob Chic. Where would you start in regards to improvements? Is it possible to get rid of the gut Kamala has?

Only viewed from Photos !!!
Kings guts tends to be a combination of two factors , excessive bloating via food and water and cell size of the gut and abdominal tissue !!

The later cant be reversed effectively as this is usually a result of high ongoing GH and hormone use over a extended period of time , for one to decrease the tissue size of this area one would have to decrease their overall lean mass status and since the body does not site reduce ,the desired effect of decreasing the lean tissue in the problem area is not a plausible option as he would have to loose muscle tissue else where at the same time , the only plausible way would to be go clean and refrain from training over a period of time as to achieve a overall decline in muscle mass and with that his stomach should also loose hytrophy ability at the same time !!

He can however do himself a big favour by coming into the show with out trying to Hyper load his muscles with glycogen , and refrain from using insulin to aid this effect , as i mentioned in another post a few days ago he needs to come in semi depleted into a show and then use Glycerol to aid muscle pumps and fullness prior to walking on stage , in this semi depleted state his stomach should be smaller (not as bloated) but this will not decrease the volume of tissue in that area , but it should make a marked improvement to his look overall !!!

1stkeepitreal · « **Reply #78 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:18:06 PM »

Once upon a time I had nice little car. It was small but as I said nice. Put a lot of time, effort and money into it, go it up to a level where it even did well in shows and magazines. Well time has went on and the competition from others is extreme, the cost of new upgrades cost more and the taste of people has changed. So no matter what i do to this once beatiful car that was all the rage it never looks like it used to nor gets the compliments it used to.

I guess its time to either quit with this car and love it for what it once was or send it to the junk yard.

Hey Kamali there is a moral to this story somewhere.

-keep it real-

Disgusted · « **Reply #79 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:21:07 PM »

Quote from: Sean Maloney on August 31, 2006, 09:49:57 PM

Nobody wants King to do better than I do,

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I don't know about that.

I just got here in Montreal a short while go. King will be arriving tomorrow afternoon and I will be with him from then on. I have been firends with King for around 5 or 6 years and I can tell you that I did not come all the way to freakin Canada to hold his hand. No predictions but will do some updates if anyone is interested. Wonder if there are any French hotties around here.

Too bad I don't speak French.

1stkeepitreal · « **Reply #80 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:31:58 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on August 31, 2006, 10:21:07 PM

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Wonder if there are any French hotties around here. Too bad I don't speak French.

No need to speak french those girls if you have just a little "suave' will just be throwing it at you faster than you can knock em off. Good luck....with the women that is.

The other story no luck, prayer or assitance or guidance will change that outcome.

-keep it real-

Wombat · « **Reply #81 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:38:54 PM »

Quote from: Chick on August 31, 2006, 08:54:11 PM

It's a simple solution, really.....It's using the right tools for the right job.

King is using the wrong technique (IMO)...the carb loading is not working in his favor. Some people can shove food down their throats and they will carb up very nicely...others will hold a ton of water, and look better vdepleated....KIng's body responds better to the latter.

Why do you think his 2 week out, 1 wek out photo's always looked so impressive? What changes in those last few days? Simple....CARB loading. King has made the appropriate changes and will come in MUCH less carb loaded, much drier, and with a MUCH smaller waistline.

Another technique is to spread out the meals and cut down th volume per meal...this also will allow the stomach to shrink accodingly, without having to hold (and process) such a large volume of food.

I predict Kings best showing since the 2001 I.M.

Bob, Not a knock on King but isn't it possible that he took the hormones as far as they will take him and over the past few years, his body just isn't reacting to them like before? If i look at kings photos from all the years past, i have never really seen him peeled from the waist down...He has either came in spilled over or depleted. And although i think he looks much better in the depleted state, he still has to stand next to guys who are ripped to shreds and didn't miss their mark who weren't standing next to him in his 1 to 2 week out shots which make King look fantastic...Bob you don't even Squat anymore and your quads look twice the size of Kings(i know their not) but kings quads always look like a good state bodybuilders....Kings legs from the side are hard to beat and look incrediable but are exposed from the front...I hope he gets it together but i just wonder if his body is done....Just doesn't look like its reacting...

Alex23 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 31, 2006, 10:56:48 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 27, 2006, 12:29:56 AM

With the right car, King can correct this.

240 or flux capacitor

don't forget the 2.21 gigawatts it also takes.... I don't think plutonium was available backe when small gut was his style..

Disgusted · « **Reply #83 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:06:19 PM »

Quote from: Sean Maloney on August 31, 2006, 11:01:13 PM

Why on earth would you say that?

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Sean, what I mean is that there might be one other guy out there besides you who would like to see him do better. Meaning me. What did you think I meant?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #84 on:** August 31, 2006, 11:54:34 PM »

Man the lot of you guys are delusional as hell. Its all the drugs fault not the foods fault....Find me a carb loaded natural at 4 percent looking like that.

You can`t. Fucking idiots.

Sir William Idol · « **Reply #85 on:** September 01, 2006, 01:37:48 AM »

oh how cute, digusted and maloney are fighting over who gets to love king harder! ahhahahah, gayer than bed and breakfast

gibberj2 · « **Reply #86 on:** September 01, 2006, 04:53:23 AM »

would someone tell me what the insulin is about? how do they use it and what's it for? like gimme an example. 2nd what's IGF?

Yorkie T · « **Reply #87 on:** September 01, 2006, 05:12:21 AM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on September 01, 2006, 04:53:23 AM

would someone tell me what the insulin is about? how do they use it and what's it for? like gimme an example. 2nd what's IGF?

insulins a hormone that can build muscle or make you fat,depending in what state your bodies in when you take it, ive never used it myself but ive got lots of friends that do so my knowledge is purely from what ive read and seen from my friends.i think the reason its used mostly is because if you take growth hormone that makes your insulin levels go down and because it is an extremely anabolic hormone then that wouldnt be a good thing.apparently if you have high levels of GH youll have low levels of insulin and the other way round,so if you take them both in a needle it will have a high anabolic effect.igf-1 is insulin like growth factor and i think that it is just another very anabolic hormone like insulin.theres other effects these hormones can be manipulated to do but i think the ones i said are the main function's that bodybuilders are interested in.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #88 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:49:41 AM »

whatever happend to just taking steroids? So you're saying insulin is for getting big or just to fill up. I thought it was similar to carbing up

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #89 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:52:44 AM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on September 01, 2006, 06:49:41 AM

whatever happend to just taking steroids? So you're saying insulin is for getting big or just to fill up. I thought it was similar to carbing up

What is really crazy here is that you have people with very little experience or training or education playing with this stuff like a chemistry set using desperate people like Kamali as the guinea pig.

Kamali is probably looking for anything to improve his chances right now and is vulnerable to try anything or believe whatever any self labeled "guru" has to say while playing russian roulette with his health.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #90 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:54:12 AM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on September 01, 2006, 06:49:41 AM

whatever happend to just taking steroids? So you're saying insulin is for getting big or just to fill up. I thought it was similar to carbing up

These Pros have rotted brains and think its food and Advil that is fucking them up..They like to blame everything but the very shit they are built on.

Its kind of like how they seem to forget that they are "ALL DRUGS" and that is the only reason they are over 160 lbs in the first place.

Very Delusional.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #91 on:** September 01, 2006, 06:59:31 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on September 01, 2006, 06:54:12 AM

These Pros have rotted brains and think its food and Advil that is fucking them up..They like to blame everything but the very shit they are built on.

Its kind of like how they seem to forget that they are "ALL DRUGS" and that is the only reason they are over 160 lbs in the first place.

Very Delusional.

The pictures of Kevin Levrone (Who is one of my Favorites of all time) off the sauce is just amazing. Same with Jean Claude Van Damme. Seriously, you would think that all that lifting actually built some real muscle under there. Especially with all the food to boot.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #92 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:00:28 AM »

well if it's all drugs then why is it that there's so many people who roid and look bad... Vince G comes to mind, and the gay guy from MTV with 15 inch arms?

boxerz1 · « **Reply #93 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:03:40 AM »

how about this

buffbodz · « **Reply #94 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:04:24 AM »

Quote from: Motorbreath on August 27, 2006, 07:49:07 AM

I think all the offseason "overeating" stretched his abdominal wall and obliques so bad it is beyond repair.

He is f*cked.....

He should see if Batitsta can get him into the WWE with his big mouth, he could be a manager.

Like that Armando Allejandro ESSSStrada....

I'm not sure if You're joking, but I think that would be the way for Kamali to go. He's got the rap, arrogance, swagger and not to mention those posing routines . Vince has used mid Easterners very well and with the political climate as it is, if He took wrestling seriously, He could be a top heal and make mucho $$$. He's not going to make that as an IFBB pro.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #95 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:05:32 AM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on September 01, 2006, 07:00:28 AM

well if it's all drugs then why is it that there's so many people who roid and look bad... Vince G comes to mind, and the gay guy from MTV with 15 inch arms?

Lets put it this way, it seems to me that the following is true:

Some people can take roids in silly amounts and still never be or look like a "pro bodybuilder"

BUT

No "pro bodybuilder" can look like a "pro bodybuilder" without taking silly amounts of roids.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #96 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:07:20 AM »

also you guys who talk about so and so off the drugs... ever realize that many pros just don't train when they're off? like those skinny pics of arnold after he retired. you think the guy still even worked out? hell no. it's all or nothing.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #97 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:07:28 AM »

Quote from: buffbodz on September 01, 2006, 07:04:24 AM

I'm not sure if You're joking, but I think that would be the way for Kamali to go. He's got the rap, arrogance, swagger and not to mention those posing routines . Vince has used mid Easterners very well and with the political climate as it is, if He took wrestling seriously, He could be a top heal and make mucho $$$. He's not going to make that as an IFBB pro.

I think if Kamali were smart he would shave his head (clear up the hair loss), get pointy boots and be the new "Iron Sheik" in the WWE and make big dollars. With the political climate as it is, he would rake it in.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #98 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:08:48 AM »

also realize that it may be all drugs, but it's also all genetics. look at freaks like vic richards.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #99 on:** September 01, 2006, 07:11:58 AM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on September 01, 2006, 07:07:20 AM

also you guys who talk about so and so off the drugs... ever realize that many pros just don't train when they're off? like those skinny pics of arnold after he retired. you think the guy still even worked out? hell no. it's all or nothing.

Wring, I have been lifting for 15 years clean. Even if I don't lift or take a break for time, I don't lose the foundation underneath. My weight does not fluctuate 50 60 lbs. Structurally, you can tell a guy who was all roids when he was off versus a person who lifts clean but either puts on fat or stops training.

Author Topic: Anything Kamali can do to get rid of his gut? (Read 16072 times)

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