Author Topic: Modern Pro bodybuilding is a joke (Read 10103 times)

Bast000 · « **on:** August 29, 2006, 12:19:30 AM »

The majority of pros now have a trainer/nutritionist do everything for them. Tell them how to workout, what to eat, how much to eat.

Who was Arnold's nutritionist? Did arnold pay a trainer $350 an hour with money he made from dealing steroids or posing naked for gay guys to help him win Mr. Olympia? NO

Most of the pros don't think for themselves. That's not bodybuilding. They're just lab rats for the 'gurus'.

It's so stupid that Chad Nicholls has clients who compete against eachother.

Matt C · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:38:56 AM »

1stkeepitreal · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:47:55 AM »

Its ALL about the money now. Bodybuilding these days has got nothing to do with busting your ass, mutual friendships and the simple the joy of BB.

-keep it real-

jmt1 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2006, 02:57:42 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on August 29, 2006, 12:19:30 AM

The majority of pros now have a trainer/nutritionist do everything for them. Tell them how to workout, what to eat, how much to eat.

Who was Arnold's nutritionist? Did arnold pay a trainer $350 an hour with money he made from dealing steroids or posing naked for gay guys to help him win Mr. Olympia? NO

Most of the pros don't think for themselves. That's not bodybuilding. They're just lab rats for the 'gurus'.

It's so stupid that Chad Nicholls has clients who compete against eachother.

the guys back in that era had no need for a nutritionist...they just trained...actually most of them overtrained... ate lots of protein(red meat)....and a few tabs of ciba dianabol...simple and basic.

training, nutrition and supplements has come a long way since then...to achieve the level of muscularity and conditioning needed to do well today many bodybuilders need to hire a nutritionist...like it or not bodybuilding is a science.

most of the bodybuilders back then couldnt even win a national level npc show today...excluding the 2 great ones, arnold and sergio...they would be considered smooth by todays standards...thats not a knock against them...they just didnt have the the knowledge of training and nutrition we have today...or the amount of supplements and drugs...thats why its not even fair to compare those guys to bodybuilders of today.

Bigger Business · « **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:04:23 AM »

Oh I knowwwwwwwwww and the music kids listen to these days is just noise isnt it...

1stkeepitreal · « **Reply #5 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:06:02 AM »

Was I not clear? I was not trying to compare types of bodies from then and now rather I am saying that today BB is all about money plain and simple. So because its all about money the joy of BB seems to be gone forever.

And music ? whats that got to do with the current bb scene. BTW i love todays music as much as yesterdays

-keep it real-

Dorian 01 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:46:22 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on August 29, 2006, 12:38:56 AM

Gay for pay is huge in BB. Check out the thread "Posing Suits" with nearly 30,000 pages viewed:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15

I haven't had much time to check out my own boards lately but there are tons of nude photos in there.

That's why I told you before that your forum is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. You should delete that thread and ban its creator, or give them a sub-forum titled "Dirty Fags Who Are Going To Hell". Put it at the bottom where no one has to see it.

Bigger Business · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:52:38 AM »

Quote from: 1stkeepitreal on August 29, 2006, 03:06:02 AM

Was I not clear? I was not trying to compare types of bodies from then and now rather I am saying that today BB is all about money plain and simple. So because its all about money the joy of BB seems to be gone forever.

And music ? whats that got to do with the current bb scene. BTW i love todays music as much as yesterdays

-keep it real-

gotta pay the rent

cant keep it real livin in a dumpster homie

Mars · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:59:15 AM »

All drugs these days.

natural al · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2006, 04:03:14 AM »

I don't totally disagree with this statement but I will say this: In pro sports like football and hockey you have trainers and I'm sure you have nutritionalists so it only makes sense for alot of these guys to go this route. If I was a pro and it came down to me making money and winning a show witha trainer or finishing 8th...I'd go with the trainer.

GoneAway · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2006, 04:03:42 AM »

"Back in my day the BBers did it all themselves. No shindiggity new-fangled contraptions like the Nautilus machine or nutritional gurus like Chad. These new kids have it easy, sonny." (my joke)

Sure, they have it easier if they have the money for it, but you still gotta WORK FOR IT!!!!!!!!!

The money is a great part, but not everyone can be in the top 10 at the O. where the money is good. That's 10 people out of tens of thousands of BBers. I'm sure it's hardly about the money to most people.

1stkeepitreal · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2006, 04:20:43 AM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on August 29, 2006, 04:03:42 AM

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The money is a great part, but not everyone can be in the top 10 at the O. where the money is good. That's 10 people out of tens of thousands of BBers. I'm sure it's hardly about the money to most people.

very well said indeed.

jmt1 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:05:34 AM »

Quote from: 1stkeepitreal on August 29, 2006, 03:06:02 AM

BB is all about money plain and simple. So because its all about money the joy of BB seems to be gone forever.

-keep it real-

???for most of these guys bodybuilding is their full time job...they make their money guest posing, appearenes,seminars,supplement contracts,prize money, selling pics and videos....if hiring a trainer and nutritionist is gonna help them make more money they need to do it.

boxers, cyclist, track athletes, ect all have trainers and nutritionist...why not bodybuilders.

JasonH · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:14:20 AM »

This "all about money" isn't strictly true when it comes to bodybuilding. The amount of prize money these guys make at contests is swallowed up to pay for nutritionalists, drugs, supplements and the like, so economically, bodybuilding is crap. If you want to make money in sport, stick to golf or tennis.

HUGEPECS · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:18:42 AM »

ANYTHING FOR THE SANDOW...

Dorian 01 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:18:45 AM »

Quote from: BigJ on August 29, 2006, 07:14:20 AM

This "all about money" isn't strictly true when it comes to bodybuilding. The amount of prize money these guys make at contests is swallowed up to pay for nutritionalists, drugs, supplements and the like, so economically, bodybuilding is crap. If you want to make money in sport, stick to golf or tennis.

I doubt any bodybuilder tries to live off of or intends to ever live off prize money. Prize money is birdfeed unless you're new and win the Arnold/ Olympia, otherwise you should have amounted enough sponsors to live comfortably + dealing steroids + Gay for pay.

nycbull · « **Reply #16 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:58:57 AM »

Dudes, Arnold was definitley a kept man. THere are no records of his employment during his Venice days.

donrhummy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 29, 2006, 08:03:42 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on August 29, 2006, 12:19:30 AM

The majority of pros now have a trainer/nutritionist do everything for them. Tell them how to workout, what to eat, how much to eat.

Who was Arnold's nutritionist? Did arnold pay a trainer $350 an hour with money he made from dealing steroids or posing naked for gay guys to help him win Mr. Olympia? NO

Most of the pros don't think for themselves. That's not bodybuilding. They're just lab rats for the 'gurus'.

It's so stupid that Chad Nicholls has clients who compete against eachother.

That's pretty stupid. Hmmm...let's look at other sports.

Boxing: they've got trainers, managers, "handlers"
Baseball: they've all got trainers now, coaches (hitting and fielding), managers
Football: most have lifting trainers, coaches for EVERYTHING

Every sport has this. So what? It's just a natural progression in sports where you're always trying to get that extra edge.

Bob Bonham · « **Reply #18 on:** August 29, 2006, 08:47:59 AM »

Who was Arnold's nutritionist?
it was john balick now owner of ironman magazine

Rome · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:20:42 AM »

Quote from: nycbull on August 29, 2006, 07:58:57 AM

Dudes, Arnold was definitley a kept man. THere are no records of his employment during his Venice days.

He made menion of that type of situation in his book. When he was in Europe he had some "benefactor"
Of course nothing gay happened....

BayGBM · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:37:41 AM »

Quote from: Rome on August 29, 2006, 09:20:42 AM

He made menion of that type of situation in his book. When he was in Europe he had some "benefactor"
Of course nothing gay happened....

Of course not. Benefactors often take young muscle men under their wing and provide for them out of the goodness of their hearts... happens every day.

toolarge4u · « **Reply #21 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:54:55 AM »

Quote from: Bast000 on August 29, 2006, 12:19:30 AM

The majority of pros now have a trainer/nutritionist do everything for them. Tell them how to workout, what to eat, how much to eat.

Who was Arnold's nutritionist? Did arnold pay a trainer $350 an hour with money he made from dealing steroids or posing naked for gay guys to help him win Mr. Olympia? NO

Most of the pros don't think for themselves. That's not bodybuilding. They're just lab rats for the 'gurus'.

It's so stupid that Chad Nicholls has clients who compete against eachother.

whats gayer is entering the mr get big as a claimed natural who uses Pro hormones and other shit

profreeman · « **Reply #22 on:** August 29, 2006, 10:33:36 AM »

How hard do you have to train and diet to be 175-235 lbs. @ 5-7% bf on stage. Hell you did'nt even have to tan or paint to win back then. I am way old school but Let's not miniturize what's going on right now. we can't go backwards. I need 8-10 meals/day 2 workouts 2 cardios and 10-12 hrs sleep. Someone has gotta Help a brother out!!!

sarcasm · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:15:32 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 10:33:36 AM

How hard do you have to train and diet to be 175-235 lbs. @ 5-7% bf on stage. Hell you did'nt even have to tan or paint to win back then. I am way old school but Let's not miniturize what's going on right now. we can't go backwards. I need 8-10 meals/day 2 workouts 2 cardios and 10-12 hrs sleep. Someone has gotta Help a brother out!!!

no one needs 10-12 hrs. sleep.

donrhummy · « **Reply #24 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:26:26 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 10:33:36 AM

How hard do you have to train and diet to be 175-235 lbs. @ 5-7% bf on stage. Hell you did'nt even have to tan or paint to win back then.

First off I thought you looked great winning the contest, but...let's not be ridiculous here. Arnold and Sergio (to name just two guys from back then) were pretty friggin' amazing. Training to look like them ain't easy. And as good as you looked in this recent contest, I wouldn't bet on your physique against Sergio at his best any day of the week.

I'm sorry but for all your 10-12 hrs of sleep, 8+ meals a day and whatever else you do, you haven't equaled (or passed) this: