natural guys talkin junk about bodybuilders for using steroids are a joke

[jmt1]

guys like that are really a joke...you see them in the gym all the time hating on the real bodybuilders...telling their training partner, girlfriend or anyone else who is willing to listen, how this and that guy is all drugs...and how if he took those same drugs he would be twice as big and ripped cause he works so much harder...lol

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows...lol...the only ones who do look like anything are the few who are genetically gifted.

dont get it twisted...drugs are only one part of the equation...i know pros and top npc guys and have done pre contest programs for a few guys who have done well in national shows...i know the grind they go through on a daily basis.

without having atleast decent genetics, proper nutrition, and training hard, you can take all the drugs in the world and your still gonna look like shit...there is always gonna be exceptions like paul dillet who just go through the motions in the gym...the majority of guys who look good have to bust their ass to get there.

[Joey Tito]

Stop hatin on TA.  He can't help it if he's a douchebag ex-roid user who now curses roids and all who use them.

[Miss Karen]

There are shitbags in natural as well as pros and others go figure.It's the fuckin world,as they say on getbig it's all a joke and anyone who takes this place serious is a Shitbag so take a number.

[dorkeroo]

I agree that talkin "junk" is never classy really, however, one also has to bear in mind that lying of any kind and trying to pass it off as something else that is very hard to achieve could be frustrating. I don't juice and don't think I ever will, however, I also have other things in my life that make me happy. I don't judge people by their bodies, and maybe if someone does that, it is an indicator there is something missing from their lives. 

And well said Miss Karen 

[corinth]

guys like that are really a joke...you see them in the gym all the time hating on the real bodybuilders...telling their training partner, girlfriend or anyone else who is willing to listen, how this and that guy is all drugs...and how if he took those same drugs he would be twice as big and ripped cause he works so much harder...lol

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows...lol...the only ones who do look like anything are the few who are genetically gifted.

dont get it twisted...drugs are only one part of the equation...i know pros and top npc guys and have done pre contest programs for a few guys who have done well in national shows...i know the grind they go through on a daily basis.

without having atleast decent genetics, proper nutrition, and training hard, you can take all the drugs in the world and your still gonna look like shit...there is always gonna be exceptions like paul dillet who just go through the motions in the gym...the majority of guys who look good have to bust their ass to get there.

anyone who trains hard, takes their nutrition seriously and respects others that do so the same, whether juiced or not, is a real bodybuilder.

[jmt1]

Take getbig with a grain of salt but we are much more real than any other board because we won't get banned or labelled a blithering idiot for having an opinion. 

This is a very insecure industry.  Most pros need mayhem the way a cokehead needs coke but deep down they know the real world exists and they still come here and read everything we have to say daily.  And guess what?  They only really truly care about what WE have to say.

When I say you look good - you look good.  When I say you have a good attitude or are a people's champ - you are.  In general when I say you are a good pro - you are.  People reading what I write know that and give credence to what I say.  The same can't be said for some of the bag lickers on mayhem, and I am certainly not the only one here who keeps it real.  That is what people love about getbig.

LOTS of bodybuilders including more than one pro has sent me a PM about how they like what I have to write.  Anyone who keeps it real will ultimately be respected.

i agree the mods at mayhem are a joke...u shouldnt have to kiss the ass of every pro who is willing to post on a messege board.

there is also a difference between keeping it real and being and ignorant fool.

for example toney freeman had a post here about how the old school guys didnt have to work as hard to acheive the look needed to do well onstage...and how he has to 2 training sessions, 2 cardio sessions, eat about 8-10 times, and needs like 10-12 hours of sleep.

i'm sure he doesnt want to hear these jokers talking about how he is all drugs.

like i said most top npc guys and ifbb pros have to bust their ass to acheive that level of muscularity and conditiioning.

[sarcasm]

guys like that are really a joke...you see them in the gym all the time hating on the real bodybuilders...telling their training partner, girlfriend or anyone else who is willing to listen, how this and that guy is all drugs...and how if he took those same drugs he would be twice as big and ripped cause he works so much harder...lol

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows...lol...the only ones who do look like anything are the few who are genetically gifted.

dont get it twisted...drugs are only one part of the equation...i know pros and top npc guys and have done pre contest programs for a few guys who have done well in national shows...i know the grind they go through on a daily basis.

without having atleast decent genetics, proper nutrition, and training hard, you can take all the drugs in the world and your still gonna look like shit...there is always gonna be exceptions like paul dillet who just go through the motions in the gym...the majority of guys who look good have to bust their ass to get there.

ok "jmt" hahaha, i'll bet you're the type of guy who puts on a size smedium rainbow t-shirt and spandex shorts and goes to see a triple feature of The Bone Ranger/The Magnificent Seven Inches and Bitch Cassidy and the Sundance Drama Queen and then you tell yourself, "i'm not really a penis puffer i just really love westerns with gay sex in them" hahahahaha, gayer than training for bulk.

[akers1021]

i am by no means the biggest guy in the gym, I have feinds who sauce.  I have been blessed with decent genetics, legs are my strong point.  I just believe to each his own, however when you stat pushing the shit on 20 year kids that have know business thats a problem... guy up here who is known to tell guys to not waste time on Protein powder and buy test... Good advice for a kid right?   

[Croatch]

dont get it twisted...drugs are only one part of the equation...i know pros and top npc guys and have done pre contest programs for a few guys who have done well in national shows...i know the grind they go through on a daily basis.

If drugs are just a minor part, why is it I see so many "competitors" when they're off who couldn't hold my gym bag?  Even on, most guys look like shit to me.  Slamming weights because they're "hardcore".  I laugh at these clowns on a daily basis.  I manage to shrug a ton and you don't hear the bar touch, amazing!
Here's my new t-shirt:
"I gained 20lbs of bloat weight off my first cycle.  I slam my weights, too.  I'm a BEAST!!"
just joking
ALL NATURAL

Great shirt there.  Waiting on the backlash for that one.

[Earl1972]

Tom WAS all drugs.  TOM PRINCE WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A FUCKING INJECTION.

again what is a person supposed to look like when they don't train and eat high protein?

E

[jmt1]

If drugs are just a minor part, why is it I see so many "competitors" when they're off who couldn't hold my gym bag?  Even on, most guys look like shit to me.  Slamming weights because they're "hardcore".  I laugh at these clowns on a daily basis.  I manage to shrug a ton and you don't hear the bar touch, amazing!

there is a difference between some college kids that do a few cycles, pack on some quick muscle and strut around the gym slamming weights, flexing in the mirror, and a world class bodybuilder.

if you are saying a bodybuilder on that level is all drugs then you are the one who is the clown...these guys take drugs because it is part of the sport...like it or not...to achieve that level of muscularity and conditioning it is a must...and if they did not bust their ass in the gym, do their cardio, and have their diet on point, it wouldnt matter how many drugs they took.

so who is it exactly that looks like shit to you and couldnt hold your gym bag?

ronnie? branch warren? jay cutler?

[TheEgoCrusher]

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows

Insecurity?  Let me tell you something my ill-informed friend, I'm natural for LIFE and I would put my physique right now (4 weeks out) up against ANY DAMN THING you have ever accomplished.  Why?  Because I LIVE this shit.  Period.  I eat the diet YEAR ROUND.  I do at LEAST 45 minutes of cardio a day year ROUND.  I dictate my whole life around my training and diet.  Why?  Because it's my PASSION.  It's my LIFESTYLE.

Let me tell you what I have ZERO respect for...

Every gym has MANY of them...a BLOATED, fat-assed, drug-abusing POS that thinks they are above everyone else.  No cardio...no lines.  No diet...no lines.  No intensity in training...no lines.  If I had a damn DIME for every sorry-assed, apathetic SUCKER I've seen in the gym who has thought that drugs will take his pimple having, bloated, ball-shrunken ass to the PROMISED LAND over the last 10 years I'd have enough money to BUY Kamali AND Kovacs some plastic surgery that would fix their destroyed physiques. 

You can't BUY what I have.  You can't INJECT towards what I have (because  the side-effects will show).  You can't HATE on me for what I have (unless you want to disrespect guys that outwork you).  I am superior to you in ever way you can imagine.  The only way YOU could be like me would be for us to have the same parents (STEP on THEM for what you are now, not natural guys).  Step back in line and ask God to hand you our DIFFERENT GENES if you are gonna hate on a lifetime natural guy like me.  I wonder how guys like you look in the MIRROR without throwing up.  You KNOW it's all a LIE.  All of it...the bloat...the strength...the size...it all follows your needle.  You couldn't hold my damn LIFTING STRAPS and I compare you to any drug-addict.

In short, life is too short to look in the mirror several times a day and say, "Shit, I use a TON of shit and that guy looks better than me.  That bastard...."

What an apathetic SOB you are.  You represent everything that is WRONG with "bodybuilding" and I LAUGH at you and guys like you.  You can hate me all you want but you will damn sure respect me.

[body88]

guys like that are really a joke...you see them in the gym all the time hating on the real bodybuilders...telling their training partner, girlfriend or anyone else who is willing to listen, how this and that guy is all drugs...and how if he took those same drugs he would be twice as big and ripped cause he works so much harder...lol

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows...lol...the only ones who do look like anything are the few who are genetically gifted.

dont get it twisted...drugs are only one part of the equation...i know pros and top npc guys and have done pre contest programs for a few guys who have done well in national shows...i know the grind they go through on a daily basis.

without having atleast decent genetics, proper nutrition, and training hard, you can take all the drugs in the world and your still gonna look like shit...there is always gonna be exceptions like paul dillet who just go through the motions in the gym...the majority of guys who look good have to bust their ass to get there.

Haha a dude who takes drugs to look good at the beach with less effort than doing it naturally. How about pounding drugs that will cause you health problems down the line for a 2 dollar trophy in a school auditorium. Haha juice monkets calling people insecure... The irony!







 Its like midgets calling people short my friend.....

[jmt1]

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows

Insecurity?  Let me tell you something my ill-informed friend, I'm natural for LIFE and I would put my physique right now (4 weeks out) up against ANY DAMN THING you have ever accomplished.  Why?  Because I LIVE this shit.  Period.  I eat the diet YEAR ROUND.  I do at LEAST 45 minutes of cardio a day year ROUND.  I dictate my whole life around my training and diet.  Why?  Because it's my PASSION.  It's my LIFESTYLE.

Let me tell you what I have ZERO respect for...

Every gym has MANY of them...a BLOATED, fat-assed, drug-abusing POS that thinks they are above everyone else.  No cardio...no lines.  No diet...no lines.  No intensity in training...no lines.  If I had a damn DIME for every sorry-assed, apathetic SUCKER I've seen in the gym who has thought that drugs will take his pimple having, bloated, ball-shrunken ass to the PROMISED LAND over the last 10 years I'd have enough money to BUY Kamali AND Kovacs some plastic surgery that would fix their destroyed physiques. 

You can't BUY what I have.  You can't INJECT towards what I have (because  the side-effects will show).  You can't HATE on me for what I have (unless you want to disrespect guys that outwork you).  I am superior to you in ever way you can imagine.  The only way YOU could be like me would be for us to have the same parents (STEP on THEM for what you are now, not natural guys).  Step back in line and ask God to hand you our DIFFERENT GENES if you are gonna hate on a lifetime natural guy like me.  I wonder how guys like you look in the MIRROR without throwing up.  You KNOW it's all a LIE.  All of it...the bloat...the strength...the size...it all follows your needle.  You couldn't hold my damn LIFTING STRAPS and I compare you to any drug-addict.

In short, life is too short to look in the mirror several times a day and say, "Shit, I use a TON of shit and that guy looks better than me.  That bastard...."

What an apathetic SOB you are.  You represent everything that is WRONG with "bodybuilding" and I LAUGH at you and guys like you.  You can hate me all you want but you will damn sure respect me.

wow...sounds like you must have a pretty impressive physique for a natural.

are you competing for your natural pro card or do you have that already?

when your done conquering the other naturals will u set your sights on the npc?

i mean since you have no respect for them you should do it and show 'em what real bodybuilding is.

[TheEgoCrusher]

I will win my "natural pro-card" within the next 2 years without question.  I probably won't be able to win it this year, as I'm doing my first "natural" show on Sept. 30th.  I WILL win my weight class in that show without question.  Getting a  pro-card in that class will NOT be very difficult considering what I bring to the table in the natural class.  Not to sound conceited, but I have simply outworked those that use and have better genetics.  I will get a "natural pro-card" at some point between now and 2008.  I didn't think it was that important previously but it's something that I wil acquire.

[jmt1]

Haha a dude who takes drugs to look good at the beach with less effort than doing it naturally. How about pounding drugs that will cause you health problems down the line for a 2 dollar trophy in a school auditorium. Haha juice monkets calling people insecure... The irony!







 Its like midgets calling people short my friend.....

i am not talking about the guy who juices up to impress at the beach...they are jokes.

i am talking about the top level world class bodybuilders and the fools with the ignorant "all drugs" comments.

[body88]

Fair enough. I have no problem with guys who juice and are humble about it. I missunderstood what you said. my bad!

[Croatch]

Haha a dude who takes drugs to look good at the beach with less effort than doing it naturally. How about pounding drugs that will cause you health problems down the line for a 2 dollar trophy in a school auditorium. Haha juice monkets calling people insecure... The irony!

Oh brother, I never thought about it like that.

[JaggyShortBuff]

I love to hear from guys in the gym that I got my build from steroid use...LoL....Wow, didn't know steroids were still getting taken up by my receptors a year later...Go figure I must be the genetic difference to most of the human population...PLEASE..... ..

[IceCold]

I will win my "natural pro-card" within the next 2 years without question.  I probably won't be able to win it this year, as I'm doing my first "natural" show on Sept. 30th.  I WILL win my weight class in that show without question.  Getting a  pro-card in that class will NOT be very difficult considering what I bring to the table in the natural class.  Not to sound conceited, but I have simply outworked those that use and have better genetics.  I will get a "natural pro-card" at some point between now and 2008.  I didn't think it was that important previously but it's something that I wil acquire.

pretty confident for not even having done a 'natural' show yet. 

[Bast175]

I had a friend who was small,  like 135lbs 14% bodyfat at 5 10" and he had been working out for a few years, and he started juicing.  Within 6-7 months he was 175lbs at 8-10% bodyfat.  Certainly no mass monster but a big difference in a short period of time.  He was benching 315lbs for a max.    Then he came off and shrunk down fast.  He stopped working out all together because he was discouraged with losing his gains.  I see him in the gym on occasion training with light weights, but he doesn't work out consistently anymore.

[body88]

Oh brother, I never thought about it like that.

Sad really. Look great now but in about 20 years it will all catch up to them. Not that I care if a person juices. It is just these guys who juice and think it is harmless lol. Monster health problems later on in life!

[JaggyShortBuff]

Sad really. Look great now but in about 20 years it will all catch up to them. Not that I care if a person juices. It is just these guys who abuse juice and think it is harmless lol. Monster health problems later on in life!

Let me make this correct.....

[gordiano]

guys like that are really a joke...you see them in the gym all the time hating on the real bodybuilders...telling their training partner, girlfriend or anyone else who is willing to listen, how this and that guy is all drugs...and how if he took those same drugs he would be twice as big and ripped cause he works so much harder...lol

they just have monster insecurity and jealousy...natural bodybuilding is a joke...98% of them look like nothing...especially when they attempt to diet for one of these natural bodybuilding shows...lol...the only ones who do look like anything are the few who are genetically gifted.

dont get it twisted...drugs are only one part of the equation...i know pros and top npc guys and have done pre contest programs for a few guys who have done well in national shows...i know the grind they go through on a daily basis.

without having atleast decent genetics, proper nutrition, and training hard, you can take all the drugs in the world and your still gonna look like shit...there is always gonna be exceptions like paul dillet who just go through the motions in the gym...the majority of guys who look good have to bust their ass to get there.

I understand why you'd get upset when people say it's "all drugs". However, you've just disrespected every natural out there, basically doing what has been done to you and other bbers. Not cool. Natural bbers have to work their asses off, just like their juiced up counter parts, maybe even more so, given that they have no "help".

What is the difference between what you do and what they do (natural bbers), other than the drugs? Do they not train hard? Do they not have to diet? Sure, they don't have the mass that users do, but so what? To each his own.

Also, why do their comments bother you so much? Is it true, that you or the others are "all drugs"? Otherwise, just laugh it off. You know how hard you work. Sure, some are just jealous, and some are just ignorant or assholes. Regardless, you know what it takes. Just let it go. Don't take this board too seriously.

Now as far as the people making the "drug" comments go, well hell, I've been acused of being "on" and I'm nothing special. I just bust my ass and bring everything I got to the gym and leave it there. It's usually the 150lb weakling/sissies who just come in and do curls to try to impress their girls.

Haters will always exist, no matter what you do.

[Croatch]

Haters will always exist, no matter what you do.

Agreed.  From time to time, I pound some Haterade with some Nitrotech...goes down smooth.