I understand why you'd get upset when people say it's "all drugs". However, you've just disrespected every natural out there, basically doing what has been done to you and other bbers. Not cool. Natural bbers have to work their asses off, just like their juiced up counter parts, maybe even more so, given that they have no "help".
What is the difference between what you do and what they do (natural bbers), other than the drugs? Do they not train hard? Do they not have to diet? Sure, they don't have the mass that users do, but so what? To each his own.
Also, why do their comments bother you so much? Is it true, that you or the others are "all drugs"? Otherwise, just laugh it off. You know how hard you work. Sure, some are just jealous, and some are just ignorant or assholes. Regardless, you know what it takes. Just let it go. Don't take this board too seriously.
Now as far as the people making the "drug" comments go, well hell, I've been acused of being "on" and I'm nothing special. I just bust my ass and bring everything I got to the gym and leave it there. It's usually the 150lb weakling/sissies who just come in and do curls to try to impress their girls.
Haters will always exist, no matter what you do.
Excellent post. And you're absolutely right. By saying that because someone is natural, they're not a real bodybuilder, you're validating the "haters". You're saying that what makes a bodybuilder is the drugs, not all the hard work, the hours in the gym and the life structured around perfecting your body. When you choose to make that commitment, when you choose to change your lifestyle to one that focuses on training, eating and sleeping, that's what makes you a bodybuilder. By jmt1's logic, my years of hard work and toils and perservernce don't make me a bodybuilder, but if some frat boy shoves a needle into his ass, trains just bi's and chest and continues to live off of pizza and beer, he's a bodybuilder. I think that's BS. I'm natural, and I'm proud of that fact. I'm proud of the gains that I've gotten. Do I think steroids are dangerous? If abused, yes. Do I begrudge other people who use them? No, not if used properly. I think there is a problem in that frequently they are not. I don't think kids in high school should be taking them. I don't think people who have just started training should be taking them. I don't think that drugs should be the foundation of a physique. A foundation should be hard work, determination, and discipline. If and when someone comes to the point when their genetics will take them no further, then it is up to them to decide whether to juice or not, and I respect their right to weigh their options and make their own decision. It's one I will have to make one day, but not yet. jmt1, but lashing out against natural bodybuilders, you're only reinforcing the negative stereotypes that the outside world has of bodybuilding. The rest of the world think that all of our muscles, natural or not, come from a bottle. You're being just as ignorant and closed minded as they are, but much much worse, because you know better. Steroids is something that everyone has their own opinion on, and everyone is entitled to that opinion and to make whatever choices they want in regards to their body. Whether someone chooses to use steroids or not does not make them any better or worse. It is not a negative or positive trait, it simply is something that they have chosen to do or not do, and everyone is entitled to that. We can pass judgement about how someone goes about using steroids, whether or not they are doing it safely and whether or not they were ready to take that step, but I do not think it is right to pass judgement on them for making the choice itself. That's like looking down on people for drinking beer, or not drinking beer. Either is valid, and neither is a wrong choice. It is only when it becomes alcohol abuse that anyone can pass judgement.
That's my two cents, and then some
