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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2006, 06:24:57 PM »
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2006, 06:33:20 PM »
I like how Int titles this, Proof of more Bush hatred... Like it's hard to find evidence of people who dislike this president. LOL...

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2006, 06:54:56 PM »
ever been to the Middle East, Turkey . . . Pakistan, India?

No,  but I know 3 people who have.  Believe it or not there are some nice places over there.  I know one guy thats lived in Saudi Arabia, and in Doha Quatar at the moment. Hes one of the nicest people you could ever meet.  I encounter hundreds of middle easterners who have immigrated here and there mostly all friendly.  Nicer than most of the hill billy Republicans who are more worried about Abortion and Gay Marriage than the 2500+ dead soldiers from Iraq..  This guy at my gym is Iranian,  guess what?  Hes not a terrorist lol,  really nice guy.  So whats your point?

I understand theres millions of shit for brains poor ass nothing people over there that hate the US and blame there situation on us, but we have people like that here as well,  weren't there a few terror camps or training grounds found here?  I know Terror Cells were.  So does that mean we need to bomb our self's?  We need to fight a war on terror,  not go around destroying whole countrys then rebuilding them with our tax money.  You got to remember theres also good people there, people just like us.  We can't go fucking around unless its 110% necessary.
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2006, 07:11:54 PM »
We've caught damn near everyone but Bin Laden!

Don't you remember?  Fox News said this atleast 10 times a day post 9/11?  Unless you take the head of the cell the body just keeps regrowing.
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2006, 08:16:43 PM »
Intenseone, come on bro!
You don't think the way you rant about "Liberals" all day equates to "bush hatred"? Yea, this movie seems to be a bit over the top, but you aint got no room to complain since u're part of this ideological/partisan hate mongering crowd. Fuck Rush Limbaugh, Fuck the Libby Whackjobs, Fuck Hannity, Fuck O'reilly, etc. They're all partisan idiots. why waste your time listening to them?
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #55 on: September 01, 2006, 09:29:45 PM »
Intenseone, come on bro!
You don't think the way you rant about "Liberals" all day equates to "bush hatred"?


Look, I'm not saying he's right about everything, obviously, but yes, the majorty of what Liberals say is Bush hatred and anyone from their own party gets the boot if they are not in agreement, again, the example is Lieberman, I'm convinced that the reason why more Dems don't speak their minds is because they are afraid of getting ousted, mindless robots who's leader thinks for them.....a cult if you will!

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #56 on: September 01, 2006, 09:50:40 PM »
How long before jaguar is on here to defend this?

3

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{LOL} apparently 11 hrs.  ;D

I can't defend it just yet since I haven't seen the film, ...although I sure as heck am looking forward to it.  :P

This is gonna be a hard screening to get into, it's a real HOT must-see doc this year, and there are only 3 screenings. I might have to call in a few markers just to get into a screening.

I heard about this about a week ago......man, the left are really screwed up when they come up with crap like this............

http://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2006/09/01/1792237-sun.html

As usual IntenseOne runs off the deep end and assumes it's a movie from the left. My understanding is it's non-partisan. Infact, it's a British film. you're such a twit.  :-*


They say it isn't an attack on Bush. Than what the heck is it? Its nuts.

Chris,
From personal knowledge and experience, I doubt the selection committees for the Toronto International Film Festival have the balls and ovaries to select a film that expresses the desire to assassinate a head-of-state, ...especially not a sitting head-of-state. I just can't see it. Especially with the current sentiment surrounding Bush, I just can't see it happening. The festival is also screening another film this year that shows the assassination of Robert Kennedy, directed by Emilio Estevez, yet no one is screaming about that one. Americans have been marketing a video game that's been on the market for years that involves the assassination of the Canadian Prime Minister, yet no one is making a fuss about that one.

I would urge people to first reserve our judgement until we have at least viewed the film, before we allow both our minds & emotions to be manipulated by those with an agenda.

D.O.A.P (Death of a President) was chosen to screen as a world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival in the Festival's Visions programme. Visions spotlights films which challenge our notions of mainstream cinema and explore new cinematic territory. D.O.A.P by Gabriel Range is fictional drama told in the style of a documentary. Range, in concert with some of the finest special effects professionals, mixes archival footage with narrative elements to construct a highly original film; a falsified history on what would be a tragic event. D.O.A.P addresses a wide array of contemporary issues including the loss of civil liberties, the ramifications of war, and ultimately critiques the overwhelming influence and manipulation of mass media. 

The Toronto International Film Festival is committed to the free expression of ideas and to engaging audiences in thoughtful discussion about issues of the day. D.O.A.P contributes meaningfully to the public discourse surrounding current social issues, demonstrates highly original storytelling techniques and utilizes innovative digital effects. The film is not exploitative in any way and treats what would certainly be a great tragedy respectfully and un-cynically. In the tradition of great cautionary tales, a terrible and horrifying event unveils certain aspects of society's current fears and future trends.


Information about this film: (from the festival programme guide)

Film Title:  D.O.A.P.

Programme:  VISIONS
Director:  Gabriel Range
Country:  United Kingdom
Year:  2006
Language:  English, Arabic
Time:  93 minutes
Film Types:  Colour/HDCAM
 
SCREENING TIMES:    
Sunday, September 10    8:30 PM       
Tuesday, September 12    4:15 PM       
Friday, September 15    7:45 PM       
 
Production Company : Borough Films 

Executive Producer: Robin Gutch
Producer: Gabriel Range, Simon Finch, Ed Guiney
Screenplay: Gabriel Range, Simon Finch
Cinematographer: Graham Smith
Editor: Brand Thumim
Production Designer: Gary Baugh
Sound: Alex Riordan
Music: Richard Harvey
Principal Cast: Hend Ayoub, Brian Boland, Becky-Ann Baker, Michael Riley-Burke, M. Neko Parham

An unknown gunman assassinates George W. Bush. A couple of years later, an investigative documentary is made. It features all the people involved that fateful day: the protestors outside a Chicago hotel; the suspects in the shooting and their families; the Secret Service men who failed to protect their charge; the press; and an array of experts, desperately seeking meaning in this horrible act of violence. We learn, agonizingly, what happened to America… after the death of a president.

This is easily the most dangerous and breathtakingly original film I have encountered this year. Director Gabriel Range’s 2003 project The Day Britain Stopped – which asked what might happen if Britain’s transportation grid was suddenly halted – was his first experiment with this style. He assembles a vast array of media, manipulating and subtly altering it to act as a continuous background illustration of falsified history – and then employs the conventional, after-the-fact style of History Television and its ilk as narration.

But it’s a long leap from Britain’s trains to a gunned-down Commander-in-Chief. Range is up to the task: collaborating with some of the finest special effects wizards in the world, he inserts his characters seamlessly into existing footage. His narrative is also airtight. Cautionary tales are too often flights of fancy; as they push the envelope of credibility, the lessons gleaned from dark speculation become somehow tarnished. Not here. Every moment is completely believable, every comment is somehow appropriate – to the point of chilling, horrifying certainty.

As one might expect, Range is ultimately interested in addressing today’s political issues through the lens of the future. Xenophobia, the hidden costs of war and the nature of civil liberties in a hyper-media age all come under the microscope. The film is never a personal attack on Bush; Range simply seeks to explore the potential consequences that might follow from the President’s policies and actions.

It is the very technique of D.O.A.P., finally, that poses the most haunting questions of all. Not only do we feel the authenticity of mass media imagery slipping away, but Range suggests that his manipulation is merely a more radical example of what we encounter every day.

- Noah Cowan
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #57 on: September 01, 2006, 09:55:14 PM »
Look, I'm not saying he's right about everything, obviously, but yes, the majorty of what Liberals say is Bush hatred and anyone from their own party gets the boot if they are not in agreement, again, the example is Lieberman, I'm convinced that the reason why more Dems don't speak their minds is because they are afraid of getting ousted, mindless robots who's leader thinks for them.....a cult if you will!
this is the beauty of partisanship....Both sides say the same exact thing about the other!! haha, and in many cases they're both right!
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #58 on: September 01, 2006, 10:43:21 PM »

As usual IntenseOne runs off the deep end and assumes it's a movie from the left. My understanding is it's non-partisan. Infact, it's a British film. you're such a twit.  :-*


 

Your "misunderstanding if it's non-partisan"?????????

I know it's a British film. Let me help you out a bit and refresh your memory (if you even knew at all)........The Majority of the UK are Liberal...they were against the war from the get go...hated Bush and then hated Blair (a Democrat by our standards) for supporting Bush......Bush is a REPUBLICAN and they hate Bush, hence the freaking hate Bush signs that were all over the UK and still are.....it doesn't take a genius to connect the two!! If you think this film is non-partisan and you support it, your MUCH MORE ignorant than I suspected!!

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #59 on: September 01, 2006, 10:50:27 PM »
Oh Puleaze! 1/2 the USA hates Bush, ...if not more.

The fact is Bush is in office, and it is his policies that are shaping events in the world today.

The film examines this as well as more. Just watch the movie and then tell me if it is an attack on Bush.

Until then, no one is qualified ...and especially not YOU to say it is.
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2006, 10:56:50 PM »


The film examines this as well as more. Just watch the movie and then tell me if it is an attack on Bush.


HELLO......it portrays him getting ASSANATED, they're not exactly using Clinton in this portrayal!!

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2006, 11:10:08 PM »
ROFL!!! So if they made a Clinton assassination movie you would be OK with this movie?



Mr.Intenseone You are losing your mind man... Please for your own sake take a break from Rush.  ;D
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2006, 11:17:07 PM »
Guys, let's take the politics out of this- there are assholes and extremists on BOTH sides of the aisle.  Labeling 50% of the population does nothing more than destory any progress we can make through the exchange of ideas, insight, and information.

1% of repubs are neocon warmonger/fearmongers.
1% of libs are obnoxious screaming appeasers who make sick movies.

Let's talk about the effect of the movie on society, whether it will unitre the repubs or not, how much US airplay it'll get, how long till it gets on youtube, etc.

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2006, 11:18:09 PM »
ROFL!!! So if they made a Clinton assassination movie you would be OK with this??? 


Absolutly NOT, Clinton wasn't all bad...like Bush, he's made mistakes!!

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2006, 11:20:17 PM »
Guys, let's take the politics out of this- there are assholes and extremists on BOTH sides of the aisle.  Labeling 50% of the population does nothing more than destory any progress we can make through the exchange of ideas, insight, and information.

1% of repubs are neocon warmonger/fearmongers.
1% of libs are obnoxious screaming appeasers who make sick movies.

Let's talk about the effect of the movie on society, whether it will unitre the repubs or not, how much US airplay it'll get, how long till it gets on youtube, etc.

I don't think it will be in American theaters anytime soon. (unless Micheal Moore funds it release)!!

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2006, 11:24:11 PM »
I don't think it will be in American theaters anytime soon. (unless Micheal Moore funds it release)!!

You might be wrong about that. If it was done in the way they describe, ...not finding a US distributor would raise some very nasty & unavoidable questions of partisan inspired censorship of the arts, in an effort to keep Americans from thinking. It would blow up in people's faces because it will inevitably show up on sites like YouTube and through Kazaa & WinMx etc. People will see this film. the only way they won't is if it's crap.

My understanding so far is if it takes a swipe at anyone, it's a subtle one at the media, ...but I'll have to see it first to be sure. But that's my gut instinct, ...which is very rarely wrong.  :)

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2006, 11:59:18 PM »
Oh Puleaze! 1/2 the USA hates Bush, ...if not more.


Half the country hated Clinton too.  It's the nature of partisan politics.  We've gone from agree/disagree to good vs. evil. 

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #67 on: September 02, 2006, 12:11:59 AM »
Half the country hated Clinton too.  It's the nature of partisan politics.  We've gone from agree/disagree to good vs. evil. 

That's kind of my point MarK. He claims it's a liberal film and therefore evil, without having seen it, or, as I suspect, without even having read it's synopsis or review. I think if Noah's review is accurate, ...and he most frequently is, ...then i suspect Republicans will view this film and go Wow. if anything, it will give people pause to THINK for a change.

I understand it's big on SFX. I remember when Chromakey first hit and how spectacular we all thought that was. But to intersperse archival footage together seamlessly to create an fictional storyline, borrowing on current affairs, then backtrack a documentary from there, truly is a remarkable feat. If he pulls it off, I can see alot of hardware coming it's way.
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #68 on: September 02, 2006, 12:26:53 AM »
I can't get into partisan movies.  I never watched the "documentaries" trying to show Clinton had murdered people.  I have never seen Michael Moore's "movie" about Dubya.  Don't like partisan books either.  For example, I am boycotting Richard North Patterson because, after producing a string of excellent books, he started writing about abortion, gun control, and the death penalty under the guise of fiction.  It was a bunch of liberal nonsense.  Not entertaining at all.  When I'm not being paid to think, I like to just relax and have fun (like watching the first season of Lost on DVD this weekend; never seen it). 

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #69 on: September 02, 2006, 12:30:41 AM »
I don't think it will be in American theaters anytime soon. (unless Micheal Moore funds it release)!!

i agree.  Even on the 911 boards, where they openly call Bush out for treason on 911, no one wants that kind of crap out there.

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #70 on: September 02, 2006, 01:16:40 AM »
Look, I'm not saying he's right about everything, obviously, but yes, the majorty of what Liberals say is Bush hatred and anyone from their own party gets the boot if they are not in agreement, again, the example is Lieberman, I'm convinced that the reason why more Dems don't speak their minds is because they are afraid of getting ousted, mindless robots who's leader thinks for them.....a cult if you will!

My guess as to why Lieberman would get the boot, is because the Democrats wanted to make room for only one major moderate Democrat for the upcoming election. Hillary Clinton.

If Lieberman would've been in the run, Hillary could've been forced to become slightly more radical to win the nomination for the Democrats. And she wants to stay a true centerfielder in US politics.

That's at least my take on things.

Lieberman was the second best option the Democrats had for president candidate, and he was too similar to their best option. Therefore, he had to go.

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #71 on: September 02, 2006, 04:03:53 AM »
I think the worst thing that anybody could hope for is that Bush get shot. Especially if it was found out that a Muslim did it. We'd crush half the middle east in an attempt for revenge. Dick Cheney would come unhinged.
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2006, 04:13:31 AM »
I think the worst thing that anybody could hope for is that Bush get shot. Especially if it was found out that a Muslim did it. We'd crush half the middle east in an attempt for revenge.


I agree.


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Dick Cheney would come unhinged.


Here is where we disagree. I think Cheney would ejac in his pants. He'd become president and be able to unleash all his plans without any restraints. It would be a PNAC wet dream that would become the civilized world's nightmare.
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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2006, 08:18:58 AM »



 I think Cheney would ejac in his pants. He'd become president and be able to unleash all his plans without any restraints. It would be a PNAC wet dream that would become the civilized world's nightmare.

And rightfully so!

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Re: Proof of more Bush hatred.....
« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2006, 08:43:50 AM »
And rightfully so!

So if it does happen, ...the key question we need to ask to find the culprit is who benefits.

A few days ago in the Bush vs. Iran president debate thread, I made a flippant sarcastic comment about neocons poising to off the pres. Now that I think about it, ...with everything I know about them, ...it's not such a far-fetched possibility imo, ...it's sickeningly plausible.  >:(
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