Is Kamali still with Joe McNeil??

[Mr. Michael Moore]

Hi, Disgusted. Regarding King's training, in the interview he did with Avidan, after the NY pro show, King said he was gonna change his training pattern, dropping all the heavy training, meaning leaving out of the schedule the basic free weight exercises and their machines versions, i.e. T-bar rows, deadlifts, squats, etc. , in the hope of bringing down his midsection. He called his style of training powerbuilding. This was in the McNeil era. In my humble opinion, I thought this was a big mistake, because i always thought his style was kick ass, and his problem lies in other areas of the contest prep.

Disgusted, are you gonna bring back the heavy style, or what are you planning to do regarding Kamali's training?

Please, elaborate on this matter the best you can. Thanks!

[SUBTRACTION]

Hi, Disgusted. Regarding King's training, in the interview he did with Avidan, after the NY pro show, King said he was gonna change his training pattern, dropping all the heavy training, meaning leaving out of the schedule the basic free weight exercises and their machines versions, i.e. T-bar rows, deadlifts, squats, etc. , in the hope of bringing down his midsection. He called his style of training powerbuilding. This was in the McNeil era. In my humble opinion, I thought this was a big mistake, because i always thought his style was kick ass, and his problem lies in other areas of the contest prep.

Disgusted, are you gonna bring back the heavy style, or what are you planning to do regarding Kamali's training?

Please, elaborate on this matter the best you can. Thanks!

I think he's gonna tell "King" to lay off the Twinkees and donuts.

[Disgusted]

Hi, Disgusted. Regarding King's training, in the interview he did with Avidan, after the NY pro show, King said he was gonna change his training pattern, dropping all the heavy training, meaning leaving out of the schedule the basic free weight exercises and their machines versions, i.e. T-bar rows, deadlifts, squats, etc. , in the hope of bringing down his midsection. He called his style of training powerbuilding. This was in the McNeil era. In my humble opinion, I thought this was a big mistake, because i always thought his style was kick ass, and his problem lies in other areas of the contest prep.

Disgusted, are you gonna bring back the heavy style, or what are you planning to do regarding Kamali's training?

Please, elaborate on this matter the best you can. Thanks!

After many years of training and research I feel that volume training is better. Meaning both higher reps and sets. I have no problem with king doing squats. In fact, regular squats are the best imo for legs overall size and shape. I am not into the whole HD style of training although I have done it many times. It does not seem to be all that great for size. It just makes you stronger on the movement that you are doing, but only to a point. A have nothing against a particular exercise in general, I feel that it is more reps and and how you perform it then how much weight. The one thing that I will eliminate is deadlifts.

[Petrucci]

Right now King is doing a bit of cardio, no lifting and eating very little. Basically enjoying life, getting small and staying lean. 

you know, im not an expert, but i really think this is a very good idea...To pull a Levrone, going off (and i mean completely, trainning, eating, etc) for some time and then start again fresh.
I think the biggest challenge for Kamali now its not to be a competition for others, but to regain the kind of physique he once had (2001) . If he can do that (wich im afraid its impossible) he will be already a serious threat to many competitors...

[nder98]

Well, like pro bodybuilding ability, most of it is genetic, but it doesn't hurt to work at it as well! 

Well my friend, Im classifying you as the first "Pro Dick"  congrats..

[Disgusted]

you know, im not an expert, but i really think this is a very good idea...To pull a Levrone, going off (and i mean completely, trainning, eating, etc) for some time and then start again fresh.
I think the biggest challenge for Kamali now its not to be a competition for others, but to regain the kind of physique he once had (2001) . If he can do that (wich im afraid its impossible) he will be already a serious threat to many competitors...

Of course it's not impossible. Think 2001, but with added size and a tad less bodyfat.

[FLEX N FREAK]

Who is disgusted

[Disgusted]

Who is disgusted

I am my mother's son silly. 

[Mr. Michael Moore]

After many years of training and research I feel that volume training is better. Meaning both higher reps and sets. I have no problem with king doing squats. In fact, regular squats are the best imo for legs overall size and shape. I am not into the whole HD style of training although I have done it many times. It does not seem to be all that great for size. It just makes you stronger on the movement that you are doing, but only to a point. A have nothing against a particular exercise in general, I feel that it is more reps and and how you perform it then how much weight. The one thing that I will eliminate is deadlifts.

Great, Disgusted, thanks for the answer. Just one thing: why deadlifts in particular? Do you REALLY, REALLY believe that they might contribute to the widening of the waist? And waht about King pulling directly form the floor? I never believed in that rack shit, or partial deadlifts myth..... I think those are the real ego exercise, piece of shit movement.......if you can't pull form the floor, you aren't doing shit, regarding deadlifts.

Anyway, please explain more on these, thanx!

[jmt1]

Great, Disgusted, thanks for the answer. Just one thing: why deadlifts in particular? Do you REALLY, REALLY believe that they might contribute to the widening of the waist? And waht about King pulling directly form the floor? I never believed in that rack shit, or partial deadlifts myth..... I think those are the real ego exercise, piece of shit movement.......if you can't pull form the floor, you aren't doing shit, regarding deadlifts.

Anyway, please explain more on these, thanx!

as far as i know kamali doesnt do deads off the ground...he does the heavy rack pulls.

[SUBTRACTION]

Who is disgusted

Ronnie Coleman.

He's considering retiring and spending his time helping Kamali break the top 20 in next year's Olympia.

[jem123]

I think he's with George Foreman now.

[MAXX]

Kamali just needs to lay off the GH. Thats whats given him a gut. Not deadlifts.

[Mr. Michael Moore]

as far as i know kamali doesnt do deads off the ground...he does the heavy rack pulls.

Yeah, I know that. That's one of the things that I don't like in his training. I think he would be better off pulling from the floor, no matter what......

The rack deadlifts are non-sense. Crappy range of motion, at best....ar worst, an ego exercise where you load up the plates, thus increasing unnecessarily intra abdominal pressure for the sake of nothing.

[MAXX]

Remember Titus did that light kind of blood volume training and he still had a big gut.

[jmt1]

Yeah, I know that. That's one of the things that I don't like in his training. I think he would be better off pulling from the floor, no matter what......

The rack deadlifts are non-sense. Crappy range of motion, at best....ar worst, an ego exercise where you load up the plates, thus increasing unnecessarily intra abdominal pressure for the sake of nothing.

i would disagree with that...i dont see any reason for a bodybuilder to be doing deads off the ground...keep the stress on just the back.

Bodybuilding Deadlifts – These are called bodybuilding deadlifts, because of their extreme hypertrophy abilities. They are an aesthetic exercise, and build the rotator cuff muscles, but also retract the scapula, which builds center back thickness as well. Traditionally these are performed on smith machines. You will frequently see Charles Glass utilize this exercise with top IFBB pros. It is a partial deadlift. You set the weight to a level about knee high. The the key is to focus on pulling the weight with the upper back muscles. At the top range of motion laterally rotate your shoulder joint, and squeeze the living daylights out of your rotator cuff muscles. The key is the lateral rotation here! You should get a massive peak contraction.

[SUBTRACTION]

Kamali just needs to lay off the GH. Thats whats given him a gut. Not deadlifts.

We all know that, but he can't very well say so in Flex. 

[Mr. Michael Moore]

i would disagree with that...i dont see any reason for a bodybuilder to be doing deads off the ground...keep the stress on just the back.

Bodybuilding Deadlifts – These are called bodybuilding deadlifts, because of their extreme hypertrophy abilities. They are an aesthetic exercise, and build the rotator cuff muscles, but also retract the scapula, which builds center back thickness as well. Traditionally these are performed on smith machines. You will frequently see Charles Glass utilize this exercise with top IFBB pros. It is a partial deadlift. You set the weight to a level about knee high. The the key is to focus on pulling the weight with the upper back muscles. At the top range of motion laterally rotate your shoulder joint, and squeeze the living daylights out of your rotator cuff muscles. The key is the lateral rotation here! You should get a massive peak contraction.

Yeah.......tell that to Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates and Jay Cutler.......all owners of some of the best backs in history, all pulled from the floor, powerlifting style. Like Haney once said it best, don't try to rewrite the book, stick with the A, B and Cs......

Would you ever envision Johnnie Jackson doing your 'bodybuilding style' deadlifts?

And his back is very weak.....


Additionally, Kamali would not be hurt from the extra stimulus in the legs, hamstrings, etc, all of those are part of the traditional deadlift from the floor.

[Disgusted]

Great, Disgusted, thanks for the answer. Just one thing: why deadlifts in particular? Do you REALLY, REALLY believe that they might contribute to the widening of the waist? And waht about King pulling directly form the floor? I never believed in that rack shit, or partial deadlifts myth..... I think those are the real ego exercise, piece of shit movement.......if you can't pull form the floor, you aren't doing shit, regarding deadlifts.

Anyway, please explain more on these, thanx!

I guess the best way to put it is that you really don't need to do deadlifts to develope a great back. I can name tons of guys who don't and tons that do. Personal preference I guess. King has done them for years so he has layed a good foundation anyway. I don't think that contribute to a wide waist. There are other factors to explain that.

[flexingtonsteele]

I guess the best way to put it is that you really don't need to do deadlifts to develope a great back. I can name tons of guys who don't and tons that do. Personal preference I guess. King has done them for years so he has layed a good foundation anyway. I don't think that contribute to a wide waist. There are other factors to explain that.

What are the other factors???

How will u fix his arms??? Trim his waist? work directly on the arms?? What are u going to do.