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If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« on: September 07, 2006, 07:16:34 AM »
If the entire Arctic ice cap and all the Glaciers melt the sea level WON'T rise!

Think about ice in a glass of water. When you drop a cube in, the level rises and stays there as it melts.
The volume of the ice cube is displaced in the water. So, the mass in the tip of an iceberg is already accounted for.

I argued with two friends about this yesterday. Fuckers!  ???
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2006, 07:23:28 AM »
ummmmm the arctic, antarctic etc. arnt simply 'floating' on the ocean like an ice cube (sexy)

did you consider that in your discussion?

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2006, 07:25:21 AM »
if much of the glaciers are not in the water and melted then yes it would rise.

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2006, 07:27:42 AM »
Lets do our part and kill the green house effect.
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2006, 07:47:52 AM »
Lets do our part and kill the green house effect.
Okay alexxx, quit driving, using electricity to a minimum for only essentials in your house (that means misxing all your shakes by hand), don't cut your lawn (it causes co2 when it decomposes), set up a windmill in your backyard to make electricity, by only recycled items including clothes (IMO recycling CAUSES more energy use) and sell your computer. :)

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2006, 07:50:18 AM »
Okay alexxx, quit driving, using electricity to a minimum for only essentials in your house (that means misxing all your shakes by hand), don't cut your lawn (it causes co2 when it decomposes), set up a windmill in your backyard to make electricity, by only recycled items including clothes (IMO recycling CAUSES more energy use) and sell your computer. :)

I would do all that if thats what it takes. Me and computer can part our ways no problem. Instead I will be hunting little twunts like you down in person and intimidate them with my quality huge physique.
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2006, 08:06:44 AM »
alexxx definitely sell your computer!
But, I don't think any of those other things are the problem. If we created the hole in the ozone,
Why is in over Antarctica? And scientists are now saying it is getting smaller.
The air is alot cleaner today then 50 years ago.
We have more forest in the USA today then ever. Because we put out the massive forest fires the occur every
year out west. Methane gas and all kinds of other harmful substances have been released into are atmosphere naturally forever! To think that we caused all the environmental problems today is absurd.
I think everyone needs to hear the other side of the story and not just listen to the media blow everything out of proportion.
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2006, 08:14:16 AM »
alexxx definitely sell your computer!
But, I don't think any of those other things are the problem. If we created the hole in the ozone,
Why is in over Antarctica? And scientists are now saying it is getting smaller.
The air is alot cleaner today then 50 years ago.
We have more forest in the USA today then ever. Because we put out the massive forest fires the occur every
year out west. Methane gas and all kinds of other harmful substances have been released into are atmosphere naturally forever! To think that we caused all the environmental problems today is absurd.
I think everyone needs to hear the other side of the story and not just listen to the media blow everything out of proportion.

Interesting I never though about it that way.
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2006, 08:27:12 AM »
If the entire Arctic ice cap and all the Glaciers melt the sea level WON'T rise!

Think about ice in a glass of water. When you drop a cube in, the level rises and stays there as it melts.
The volume of the ice cube is displaced in the water. So, the mass in the tip of an iceberg is already accounted for.

I argued with two friends about this yesterday. Fuckers!  ???
Could be right there - Archimedes' Theory of Displacement has proved this.

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2006, 08:32:12 AM »
I would do all that if thats what it takes. Me and computer can part our ways no problem. Instead I will be hunting little twunts like you down in person and intimidate them with my quality huge physique.
Lol, it is all it takes acoording to conservationists. You and your computer part ways..............dude you can't even stay OFF the computer for a week without being in time out. And if you come to hunt me down, I live in the Washington DC area, but remember not to drive because you will contribute to co2 in the atmosphere. You must walk, and by the time you get here from Canada your physique will be shrunken to that of a 150lb stick. ;)

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2006, 08:34:02 AM »
alexxx definitely sell your computer!
But, I don't think any of those other things are the problem. If we created the hole in the ozone,
Why is in over Antarctica? And scientists are now saying it is getting smaller.
The air is alot cleaner today then 50 years ago.
We have more forest in the USA today then ever. Because we put out the massive forest fires the occur every
year out west. Methane gas and all kinds of other harmful substances have been released into are atmosphere naturally forever! To think that we caused all the environmental problems today is absurd.
I think everyone needs to hear the other side of the story and not just listen to the media blow everything out of proportion.
And because it it cleaner, it's being blamed for not reducing sunlight hitting the Earth and warming it up. Shouldn't we have left it "dirty" then?

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2006, 08:35:05 AM »
Lol, it is all it takes acoording to conservationists. You and your computer part ways..............dude you can't even stay OFF the computer for a week without being in time out. And if you come to hunt me down, I live in the Washington DC area, but remember not to drive because you will contribute to co2 in the atmosphere. You must walk, and by the time you get here from Canada your physique will be shrunken to that of a 150lb stick. ;)

I have put on my mass the natural way so my awesome physique will never detoriate. As for walking who ever said anything about that? I will ride the most powerfull stallion (horse yeah I know you have a sick mind), track you down and squash you like the little bug you are. hahaha
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2006, 08:38:34 AM »
I have put on my mass the natural way so my awesome physique will never detoriate. As for walking who ever said anything about that? I will ride the most powerfull stallion (horse yeah I know you have a sick mind), track you down and squash you like the little bug you are. hahaha
Lol, by the time you get here, you'll be so hungry you'll have had the stallion for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2006, 08:39:59 AM »
Lol, by the time you get here, you'll be so hungry you'll have had the stallion for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

That would make for a tasty treat. ;D I will continue on foot!
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2006, 08:40:44 AM »
If the entire Arctic ice cap and all the Glaciers melt the sea level WON'T rise!

Think about ice in a glass of water. When you drop a cube in, the level rises and stays there as it melts.
The volume of the ice cube is displaced in the water. So, the mass in the tip of an iceberg is already accounted for.

I argued with two friends about this yesterday. Fuckers!  ???

water levels worldwide would rise about 65m.  Goodbye Fla.

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2006, 08:41:32 AM »
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2006, 08:42:19 AM »
That would make for a tasty treat. ;D I will continue on foot!
Then my son you will be HUGE!

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2006, 08:45:11 AM »
According to some scientists, the Earth is more likely, based on history, to go into a "freeze" again before the caps would melt.

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2006, 08:45:28 AM »
Then my son you will be HUGE!

and powerfull like a horse.
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2006, 08:46:37 AM »
and powerfull like a horse.
I'd rather be hung like one.

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2006, 08:47:29 AM »
I'd rather be hung like one.

haha don't all the orientals? I am looking I was blessed. ;D
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2006, 08:48:39 AM »
haha don't all the orientals? I am looking I was blessed. ;D
Uh yea!

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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2006, 09:41:28 AM »
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water levels worldwide would rise about 65m.  Goodbye Fla.

Question Everything.
For every scientist that believes in "Global Warming" you can find one that says it's full of shit.
There isn't a shred of proof that we're in any state of global warming right now. It's a theory and I
wish the media would treat it as such. The temperature of the ocean has dropped alittle over the last 10 years.
Every reason for global warming can be explained and argued why it is just part of a natural occurrence in the
Earth's cycle. How can we be expected to trust any measurement that was taken over 100 years ago?
They were riding around on horses for Christ's sake!
The planet rotates about it's axis but it also wobbles on it slightly over many years.
Right now it's in a position where the north pole is getting hotter and the south pole is getting colder.
No one ever talks about the fact that the Southern ice cap is growing. Besides that the earth is always
changing. The continents are always moving and volcanos are always erupting under the ocean
creating islands. Don't you think that will cause changes in the sea level?

The fact that sea ice doesn't affect sea level when it melts doesn't mean that the sea levels won't rise.
I'm not arguing that ice over land melting won't effect anything. That WILL cause sea level to rise,
from sliding into the sea and increasing the volume of water. But, it's not going to be that significant.
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Re: If all the ice in the ocean melted the sea level wouldn't rise!
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2006, 09:45:12 AM »
my argument wasn't about global warming.  It was about the volume of water currently sitting above sea level in the form of grounded ice. 

Anyone can argue global warming... who knows if they're right or wrong.  This is simply a breakdown of all the water which is currently frozen on land which would enter the ocean upon melting.  Water levels would rise a little over 65 meters.  I'm not sure it's disputed:
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/environment/waterworld.html