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US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« on: September 12, 2006, 11:16:25 PM »
1979 - Modern Afghan drug trade begins. How?

Mujahedeen guerrillas seize territory inside Afghanistan. 
Peasants are ordered to plant opium as the revolutionary tax.
Pakistan, with the blessing of their Intelligence (ISI), build processing plants where opium becomes heroin.
US denies any criticism of this drug activity, as it secondary to the war with Soviets going on.

1980s - "monster" drug use growth.  New Jack City.

1990s - "War on Drugs" sees itself slide down priority list.

Cue 2001 - Taliban rules Afghanistan. 
By Spring of 2001, they had destroyed 95% of Afghan poppy growth.
3656 tons in 2000 becomes 74 tons in 2001.
Heroin prices in America skyrocket.

US invades Afghanistan.
2002 - 3400 tons of opium are produced.
2005 - 500,000 acres of Afghanistan now cultivate poppy fields, despite fact US presence and technology is everywhere.


Today, as in the 90s, Afghanistan produces 70% of the world's opium.


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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2006, 11:27:23 PM »
This country has been a Narco State. I have been involved in "combat" three times since being here...twice it was with drug dealers. A convoy we were with stopped in the middle of a poppy "farm"..they didn't like it and fired RPG's at us. There is very little we can do. DEA did an operation here in April but with much of the government involved or getting pay offs..its a lost cause.
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2006, 11:31:31 PM »
This country has been a Narco State. I have been involved in "combat" three times since being here...twice it was with drug dealers. A convoy we were with stopped in the middle of a poppy "farm"..they didn't like it and fired RPG's at us. There is very little we can do. DEA did an operation here in April but with much of the government involved or getting pay offs..its a lost cause.

Do you find it ironic that the Taliban's extreme religious views had nearly stamped out the drug growth, while this "much safer, much free-er" nation has growth levels back to normal levels?

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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2006, 11:49:12 PM »
Yeah but they are using em now as a funding source....You can't win with these people.
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2006, 08:31:46 AM »
Fuck it. Let them grow it. These people have to earn a living somehow in that barren hell hole of a country. If dickheads start doing heroin let them. Legalize all drugs. Legalize prostitution. Regulate them both and tax them both.
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2006, 09:01:26 AM »
Hell..I'd agree if it was coke..but H..this shit is bad news.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2006, 10:37:09 AM »
Hell..I'd agree if it was coke..but H..this shit is bad news.

Yeah, but its a war we well never win.
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2006, 10:51:27 AM »
we don't want to win the drug war, guys.  there is $500 mil in laundered drug money at any one time, floating the US financial system.  It allows both sides of a transaction to operate without their own FCF.

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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 06:03:49 PM »
Heroin is the family business of the founder of the Skull & Bones society, ...and the CIA is the largest drug dealer in the world. The so-called 'war on drugs' wasn't a war on drugs. It was a war to 'control' the flow of drugs, as well as the profits (not to mention all the money made in laundering it)
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2006, 01:57:51 AM »
Heroin is the family business of the founder of the Skull & Bones society, ...and the CIA is the largest drug dealer in the world. The so-called 'war on drugs' wasn't a war on drugs. It was a war to 'control' the flow of drugs, as well as the profits (not to mention all the money made in laundering it)

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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2006, 02:04:37 AM »
Fact is it? I need evidence libby.

I'm afraid it is a fact.  drug money is the money that keeps our economy afloat.  IMO, it's not the worst thing in the world, as I'm a libertarian and all.  Thing is - if they legalized it - they'd get tax revenue, but they'd lose the "laundry" cash, which ties over both sides in transactions from wall street to the trailer park.   It's why afghans stopped growing under the taliban but grow more than ever.  And we can't stop em? lmao...

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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2006, 03:14:26 AM »
Heroin is the family business of the founder of the Skull & Bones society, ...and the CIA is the largest drug dealer in the world. The so-called 'war on drugs' wasn't a war on drugs. It was a war to 'control' the flow of drugs, as well as the profits (not to mention all the money made in laundering it)

wasn't the whole Vietnam War fought to control the passage of the flow of drugs?

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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2006, 06:08:00 AM »
wasn't the whole Vietnam War fought to control the passage of the flow of drugs?

you tell me.  ;)
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2006, 06:29:39 AM »
Do you find it ironic that the Taliban's extreme religious views had nearly stamped out the drug growth, while this "much safer, much free-er" nation has growth levels back to normal levels?



DO YOU REALIZE THE TALIBAN IS AN AMERICAN CREATION AND HAS MET WITH BUSH MANY TIMES IN THE WHITE HOUSE?? THE TALIBAN ALSO DESPISED THE FACT THAT AFGHAN FARMERS WERE GROWING POPPYS TO FEED THE EVER INCREASING HEROIN DEMAND IN AMERICA...INSTEAD OF GROWING FOOD FOR THE AFGHAN PEOPLE. THE INVASION INTO AFGHANISTAN WAS NOT FOR OSAMA...IT WAS TO FIGHT THE TALIBAN SO THEY COULD RESURRECT THE POPPY PLANTATIONS WHICH THE TALIBAN HAD JUST ABOUT DESTROYED...

THE IGNORANCE THAT AFGHANISTAN IS NOW FREE-ER OR SAFER IS RIDICULOUS...TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS... THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO JUSTIFY THE INVASION. THERE NEVER WAS ANY TALIBAN THREAT OR TERRORIST. NOT TO WORRY THOUGH...YOU WILL HAVE MORE HEROIN IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE AND MORE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS STRUNG OUT THAN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO STAND SEEING. BTW...DID YOU FIND IT JUST A LITTLE STUPIFYING THAT COCA COLA OPENED A PLANT IN AFGHANISTAN IN THE MIDST OF THIS SUPPOSED WAR ON TERRORISM? HMMMM..

ALSO..ISN'T IT STRANGE FOR MCDONALDS, PIZZA HUT, BURGER KING, 24/7 FITNESS GYMS, CAR DEALERSHIPS AND NUMEROUS CLOTHING STORES: THE GAP, BANNA REPUBLIC, OLD NAVY, ETC WERE OPENED IN IRAQ IN THE MIDST OF THIS SUPPOSED WAR ON TERROR?...NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF WAR HAS AN INVADING NATION STOPPED TO OPEN RETAIL STORES...WHOSE RUNNING THIS WAR..."THE QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY" GROUP
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2006, 06:33:28 AM »
Fact is it? I need evidence libby.

MICHAEL RUPPERT A FORMER CIA AGENT AND LA POLICE MAN MADE A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THIS VERY THING: POLICE AND CIA AND DRUG TRAFFICINGI N AMERICA. DO A GOOGLE SEARCH ON MR. RUPPERT AND YOU CAN GET THE DETAILS
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2006, 06:39:33 AM »
Ruppert runs the website 'From the Wilderness'

He's got alot of great info on what's really going on.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com
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Re: US Drug ties: Taliban and Heroin, and Lies
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2006, 08:12:36 AM »
DO YOU REALIZE THE TALIBAN IS AN AMERICAN CREATION AND HAS MET WITH BUSH MANY TIMES IN THE WHITE HOUSE?? THE TALIBAN ALSO DESPISED THE FACT THAT AFGHAN FARMERS WERE GROWING POPPYS TO FEED THE EVER INCREASING HEROIN DEMAND IN AMERICA...INSTEAD OF GROWING FOOD FOR THE AFGHAN PEOPLE. THE INVASION INTO AFGHANISTAN WAS NOT FOR OSAMA...IT WAS TO FIGHT THE TALIBAN SO THEY COULD RESURRECT THE POPPY PLANTATIONS WHICH THE TALIBAN HAD JUST ABOUT DESTROYED...

THE IGNORANCE THAT AFGHANISTAN IS NOW FREE-ER OR SAFER IS RIDICULOUS...TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS... THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO JUSTIFY THE INVASION. THERE NEVER WAS ANY TALIBAN THREAT OR TERRORIST. NOT TO WORRY THOUGH...YOU WILL HAVE MORE HEROIN IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE AND MORE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS STRUNG OUT THAN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO STAND SEEING. BTW...DID YOU FIND IT JUST A LITTLE STUPIFYING THAT COCA COLA OPENED A PLANT IN AFGHANISTAN IN THE MIDST OF THIS SUPPOSED WAR ON TERRORISM? HMMMM..

You are absolutely right on this one.