Sucker Punched

[sarcasm]

the funny thing is that it would be so easy for us whites to take back our country, there are 220 million whites in this country and only 16 million of their "race".

[Dos Equis]

the funny thing is that it would be so easy for us whites to take back our country, there are 220 million whites in this country and only 16 million of their "race".

LOL.  Adolf speaks.  Heil Hitler!   

[Option D]

the funny thing is that it would be so easy for us whites to take back our country, there are 220 million whites in this country and only 16 million of their "race".

lol...um....ok...someone get the strait jacket, this dude has lost it. One of the "the only way ill say something like this is if i type it because i for damn sure wont express these views in public...hell i wont even ever post a pic on get big for fear that someone i pissed off might come kick my scrawnny ass." yeah one of those guys. looser

[scooter]

Dude.  It was a joke.

Interesting how the bigots on this board get worked up over crimes committed by blacks, but are conspicuously silent about white crime.  I recall Colossus posting links showing some white guys sucker punching people.  The silence in response to his post was deafening. 

As you and others have already pointed out, crime is largely based on economics.  Middle and upper middle class people, regardless of race, do not commit most of the crime in this country.   

Aside from that, because there are so many interracial people in this country, I think race statistics are pretty meaningless. 

Congrats on medical school. 

sorry man but that is not true. I am not saying that only black people commit crimes but, if you look at the crime stats you will clearly see that most violent crimes are commited by minorities. Oh yea but that is because they are poor yea right. It is because they dont want to make themselves better. They would rather complain about what is going on, than make it better for themselves. Dont get me wrong not all black people are like this. The majority are. You can say whatever you want to about not beliving stats but you cant argue with them. Blacks and minorities are more likley to commit violent crimes than whites.

[CQ]

Interesting how the bigots on this board get worked up over crimes committed by blacks, but are conspicuously silent about white crime.  I recall Colossus posting links showing some white guys sucker punching people.  The silence in response to his post was deafening. 

It is interesting.

Like you said many posts containing things about black/asian/hispanic/arab people turn into racial type threads. But when there are posts say about a crime committed by white people the race is not a subject.

Scooter - question, how do you explain the fact that the vast majority of child molesters are white males? Just curious, not trying to be inflammatory or racist here fyi.

[Dos Equis]

sorry man but that is not true. I am not saying that only black people commit crimes but, if you look at the crime stats you will clearly see that most violent crimes are commited by minorities. Oh yea but that is because they are poor yea right. It is because they dont want to make themselves better. They would rather complain about what is going on, than make it better for themselves. Dont get me wrong not all black people are like this. The majority are. You can say whatever you want to about not beliving stats but you cant argue with them. Blacks and minorities are more likley to commit violent crimes than whites.

1.  You've seen stats that show the majority of crime is not committed by low income people?  . 

2.  You've seen stats that show a disproportionate number of crimes committed by middle and upper middle class blacks? 

3.  You've seen stats that show "blacks and minorities are more likely to commit violent crimes than whites," regardless of income or education? 

4.  Have you seen stats that break down crimes statistics by blood quantum?  I haven't.  There are millions of interracial people in this country.  That makes race-based crime stats unreliable IMO.

[Option D]

Further more....if you have studied any psychology you would see that as humans have an inherent need for "making themselves better" the word is self "actualization", it is the highest priority on the hierarchy of needs as humans. The discipline is called "Humanism" I believe Albert Maslow was the psychologist who formulated it. I say to say this....Blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians, when compared to each other with comparable socioeconomic status behave similar. And inversely the same races if subject to the lower socioeconomic status are improvised and riddled with crime and drugs. It’s not that poor people like being on drugs and robbing people, they don’t have any other reality to relate to...

[sarcasm]

lol...um....ok...someone get the strait jacket, this dude has lost it. One of the "the only way ill say something like this is if i type it because i for damn sure wont express these views in public...hell i wont even ever post a pic on get big for fear that someone i pissed off might come kick my scrawnny ass." yeah one of those guys. looser

hahahahaha, you're typical of your race, you're a violent savage.

[sarcasm]

sorry man but that is not true. I am not saying that only black people commit crimes but, if you look at the crime stats you will clearly see that most violent crimes are commited by minorities. Oh yea but that is because they are poor yea right. It is because they dont want to make themselves better. They would rather complain about what is going on, than make it better for themselves. Dont get me wrong not all black people are like this. The majority are. You can say whatever you want to about not beliving stats but you cant argue with them. Blacks and minorities are more likley to commit violent crimes than whites.

yes exactly right, "bigmal's" post above demonstrates your point perfectly, when confronted with the truth about his race he reacts with violent threats, hahahahaha, it's in their blood, it's heredity.

[Option D]

Oh yeah sarcasm i have been waiting for you to post some more of you unfounded views...You have been really quiet since you posted the stats about blacks being the race most represented in jail it was DEBUNKED with states from the federal corrections site.
Now...if a white man gets in a fight is he a savage....


Remember sarcasm you are no match for me.....you have been reduced to slanging insults and unfounded facts. You have only insults and opinions that have no weight......you are a loser my man...kind of sad...Please bring something of substance....you havent proven any of your ppints....mok go ahead and call it a meltdown......

[sarcasm]

Oh yeah sarcasm i have been waiting for you to post some more of you unfounded views...You have been really quiet since you posted the stats about blacks being the race most represented in jail it was DEBUNKED with states from the federal corrections site.
Now...if a white man gets in a fight is he a savage....


Remember sarcasm you are no match for me.....you have been reduced to slanging insults and unfounded facts. You have only insults and opinions that have no weight......you are a loser my man...kind of sad...Please bring something of substance....you havent proven any of your ppints....mok go ahead and call it a meltdown......

the FACT that blacks far outnumber whites in jail was never DEBUNKED.

[Dos Equis]

Classic example of junk science, particularly this: 

"*The single greatest indicator of an area’s crime rate is not poverty or education, but race and ethnicity. Even when one controls for income, the black crime rate is much higher than the white rate."

Absurd.

[CQ]

Scooter - question, how do you explain the fact that the vast majority of child molesters are white males? Just curious, not trying to be inflammatory or racist here fyi.

Serious question people^^^

Statistically speaking, blacks do commit more violent crimes in many nations. I personally believe that it is due to the socioeconomic conditions that the lack of equality caused. When were minorities given equal rights in the US? 30/40 years ago? To me it is kind of like someone who has been training for 20 years and so is able to bench 400lbs. Some noob starts in the gym and after 2 years is only able to bench 290lbs. Without the history, they will not be as strong. I am more convinced by this, because where I live we are one of the few places that do not have the racial differentation with crimes committed etc. The amount of prisoners incarcerated basically corresponds with the racial make-up of our society.We are also one of the few places that did not have slavery, segregation etc.. as part of our offical history, hence we do not have the background that caused the problems. Race is a non entity here, as it never was a point of differential. Now economics are....

What is the reason for white males being the prevalent sexual deviants? I am honestly interested in people's opinions. I do not believe it is because white males are genetically perverts or anything, so what could be the reason behind these statistics? Less reporting in ethnic communities maybe?

[Option D]

the FACT that blacks far outnumber whites in jail was never DEBUNKED.

http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp = DEBUNKED....Stats dont lie

[Option D]

sorry man but that is not true. I am not saying that only black people commit crimes but, if you look at the crime stats you will clearly see that most violent crimes are commited by minorities. Oh yea but that is because they are poor yea right. It is because they dont want to make themselves better. They would rather complain about what is going on, than make it better for themselves. Dont get me wrong not all black people are like this. The majority are. You can say whatever you want to about not beliving stats but you cant argue with them. Blacks and minorities are more likley to commit violent crimes than whites.

Its cool...But check it out...dont believe everything you see on T.V. Saying most blacks are violent, lazy, complaining bums isnt true. How many blacks do you personally know? Check this...Im from Venice California...From what I knew of the south was they were dumb and they talked funny...I moved out to atlanta for college and i saw that southerners are just southerners. They talk differently but they are just the same as someone from new york or los angeles. I had a false perception of what southerns are like because of what i saw on tv (dukes of hazzard).

Also if most blacks are violent and lazy, how come there are whole island nations full of blacks that have virtually no crime..The reason is because the blacks down there are all on the same footing. They dont have the extreme poverty we have in the states, that is usually compounded by extreme wealth by a group soley based on race. I still believe Poverty is the author of crime.

[sarcasm]

hahahahaha, i see that Wotens FACTUAL post about the truth about black vs. white crime was deleted for being too honest.

[Option D]

yeah im upset because i was going to pick that apart today also.


oh and what do you make of the debunking?

[scooter]

I think that the main problem is people making excuses for minorities and not saying what it is it is that they would rather go out and commit crime rather that get a real job. Look at the single mother rate it is far higher in blacks than any other race. Why is that? That is one of the problems with the race there is no male figure around and the ones that are are not good role models. The fact that there are more whites in prison is going to be obvious we account for the majority of the pop. but look at the difference we are the majority of the pop. and blacks are the minority and they are still almost as high as a percentage as the whites I think that is kinda funny. oh yea that is becauseof the racist court system right ? I have no answer as to why the majority of sexusal predators are white I can not comment on that because I havent looked into it. The only thing that bothers me is why someone says that crime is because of poverty or something else I was not raised rich or anything like that but I do try to go out and make myself better everyday. That is the difference between the white race and the other minorities IMO

[Option D]

I feel you scooter and no one wants this shit to stop more than me. I might have more complaints about the mindstate of blacks and i am black. But this is where the fundamental difference is.

If your argument is blacks are violent, lazy dumb asses by definition (color of their skin.

Your argument is invalid because i am a black man who isn't violent lazy or dumb. I have no record, (I'm not violent) i worked 2 jobs and played football to put myself through college (so I'm not lazy), and i have graduated college and am in medical school now (not dumb even though organic chem2 is killing me)...

P.S. Dont say blacks rather go out and commit crime than get a real job. My whole family is black and we all work very fucking hard. And dont commit crime.

So you cant say by definition blacks carry those characteristics because I am a black man as well as my grandfather as well as my older brother (officer in the marines 14 years now, and we are all black men....

Further more there are non-blacks with those same characteristics race cant be to blame. What is to blame, i still say poverty because in all poverty stricken areas of the world the crime rate is higher. I live in an area of Atlanta (South DeKalb) which is the second richest black community in the U.S. (#1 silver springs M.D.) and even though it is largely populated with blacks the crime rate is very low.

I think the problem is that we haven't truly identified the problem to fix it. For years we have been saying its our race that makes people violent and with that approach there has been no change. Now if they identify a different source of the problem maybe another plan of action can take place which might yield a different result.

[The Showstoppa]

I feel you scooter and no one wants this shit to stop more than me. I might have more complaints about the mindstate of blacks and i am black. But this is where the fundamental difference is.

If your argument is blacks are violent, lazy dumb asses by definition (color of their skin.

Your argument is invalid because i am a black man who isn't violent lazy or dumb. I have no record, (I'm not violent) i worked 2 jobs and played football to put myself through college (so I'm not lazy), and i have graduated college and am in medical school now (not dumb even though organic chem2 is killing me)...

P.S. Dont say blacks rather go out and commit crime than get a real job. My whole family is black and we all work very fucking hard. And dont commit crime.

So you cant say by definition blacks carry those characteristics because I am a black man as well as my grandfather as well as my older brother (officer in the marines 14 years now, and we are all black men....

Further more there are non-blacks with those same characteristics race cant be to blame. What is to blame, i still say poverty because in all poverty stricken areas of the world the crime rate is higher. I live in an area of Atlanta (South DeKalb) which is the second richest black community in the U.S. (#1 silver springs M.D.) and even though it is largely populated with blacks the crime rate is very low.

I think the problem is that we haven't truly identified the problem to fix it. For years we have been saying its our race that makes people violent and with that approach there has been no change. Now if they identify a different source of the problem maybe another plan of action can take place which might yield a different result.

big_mal, do you find yourself relating more to white people or blacks?

[Option D]

I relate to blacks and latinos because i am black and latino. But as far as my thought process i would be a lier if i said i didnt admire the way (as a whole) whites approach their lives. I have adapted most if it too. Most are bottom line thinkers. Do what it takes to get it done. Delayed gratefication, live for tommorrow but also take risks. Im not saying whites didnt have the massive headstart (slavery=free capital with no overhead) in life but its time for blacks to see the problem is not whites keeping them down because no white man has ever stopped me from doing anything. It takes a changing of thinking to get ahead. When minorities understand that when they eliminate poverity they eliminate the majority of their problems is when we will move ahead.

Believe me, i hate bet, upn, wb all that shit because they only show one reality and the examples they show of black people is freakin middle management (not saying nothing is wrong with middle management but it shouldnt be the end-all for someones carreer white or black) blacks with with trivial problems. Take for example the parkers a fucking awful show, the freakin mom goes to the same jc as the daugher...what kind of shit is that. Its hollywood, they can make any reality and they choose to put that shit on tv. My mother has 2 undergrad degrees UCLA and Stanford and a masters from UC Irvine she is a vp of a major healthcare provider but they would never put that shit on the air because no one wants to see that (mainly talking about blacks). They want to see slapstick comedy that makes fun of black sterotypes. Sorry for the tangent but i didnt want anyone to think i just defend blacks and latinos blindly, i too see the problems.

[lilwoday09smb]

if any 1 brings up the slave shit and how blacks were fucked up, blah blah, they need to shut up. africans sold other africans as slaves, thats the problem. blacks will sell there own mother for something shiny. back then it was gold, silver, and jewels. now its rims. idiots

[Option D]

if any 1 brings up the slave shit and how blacks were fucked up, blah blah, they need to shut up. africans sold other africans as slaves, thats the problem. blacks will sell there own mother for something shiny. back then it was gold, silver, and jewels. now its rims. idiots

So the problem with blacks today is because africans sold other africans as slaves.....you arent that smart are you.

Also, to totally comment or inject a statement or opinion on the africans selling africans as slaves you have to know the context of the agreement. I dont know the context so i cant comment on it. But what i can comment on is that where most of the slaves in the us came from (west africa) gold no silver was used as currency because of the abundance of gold already there. So selling people for shiny things is so totally unfounded and an uneducated assertion.

[The Showstoppa]

big_mal, I can see some of your points, except that not all whites owned slaves in their ancestary, so the argument that somehow whites got a "head start" over blacks isn't true.  But I think many blacks perceive it that way, so they use it as an excuse or crutch, instead of trying to better themselves.

[Dos Equis]

big_mal, I can see some of your points, except that not all whites owned slaves in their ancestary, so the argument that somehow whites got a "head start" over blacks isn't true.  But I think many blacks perceive it that way, so they use it as an excuse or crutch, instead of trying to better themselves.

It is absolutely true that whites had a "head start" over blacks.  Pretty much the entire black race in America was illiterate in the 1800s.  Slavery ended in the 1860s, but it really didn't.  The Black Codes and Jim Crow survived until the 1960s, 100 years after slavery ended.  We're only one generation removed from Jim Crow.  Should this be a crutch for "blacks" in today's society?  Of course not.  But you cannot rewrite history.