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« on: September 28, 2006, 09:40:26 PM »
I am serious and this should be taken as such.

I know you design machines.

I am working hard to use my knowledge of physics to create a gravity suit to employ the upward level of G forces upon the human.  6-7 G`s.

I want to know your thoughts on this as I would need your knowledge of muscle mechanics and kineseology for this to work.

With this suit, you would never have to lift a weight in your life.  You would just don the suit and wear it for an hour to about 3 a few days a week.

I am shooting for equal stress in proportion to the strength of each major muscle.

Meaning, I would like the same amount of work being performed by the biceps as the quads would do. 

This requires alternate weight, but in effect the same work load as dictated by force.


I am writing a lot down and researching.  Can you help at all?

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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2006, 09:45:34 PM »
In Nature everything has a polar opposite.

Here are the effects of Weightlessness on Humans.  Read this and then think of the opposite.

Adverse effects of weightlessness

The entire following text is extracted from a paper by Dr. Theodore W. Hall entitled "Artificial Gravity and the Architecture of Orbital Habitats", and is Copyright © 1997 by Theodore W. Hall, All Rights Reserved. Reprinted by PERMANENT with permission.

"It is ironic that, having gone to great expense to escape Earth gravity, it may be necessary to incur the additional expense of simulating gravity in orbit. Before opting for artificial gravity, it is worth reviewing the consequences of long-term exposure to weightlessness.


fluid redistribution: Bodily fluids shift from the lower extremities toward the head. This precipitates many of the problems described below [1, 2].

fluid loss: The brain interprets the increase of fluid in the cephalic area as an increase in total fluid volume. In response, it activates excretory mechanisms. This compounds calcium loss and bone demineralization. Blood volume may decrease by 10 percent, which contributes to cardiovascular deconditioning. Space crew members must beware of dehydration [1, 3].

electrolyte imbalances: Changes in fluid distribution lead to imbalances in potassium and sodium and disturb the autonomic regulatory system [2, 3].

cardiovascular changes: An increase of fluid in the thoracic area leads initially to increases in left ventricular volume and cardiac output. As the body seeks a new equilibrium, fluid is excreted, the left ventricle shrinks and cardiac output decreases. Upon return to gravity, fluid is pulled back into the lower extremities and cardiac output falls to subnormal levels. It may take several weeks for fluid volume, peripheral resistance, cardiac size and cardiac output to return to normal [3, 4, 5].

red blood cell loss: Blood samples taken before and after American and Soviet flights have indicated a loss of as much as 0.5 liters of red blood cells. Scientists are investigating the possibility that weightlessness causes a change in splenic function that results in premature destruction of red blood cells. In animal studies there is some evidence of loss through microhemorrhages in muscle tissue as well [5, 6].

muscle damage: Muscles atrophy from lack of use. Contractile proteins are lost and tissue shrinks. Muscle loss may be accompanied by a change in muscle type: rats exposed to weightlessness show an increase in the amount of "fast-twitch" white fiber relative to the bulkier "slow-twitch" red fiber. In 1987, rats exposed to 12.5 days of weightlessness showed a loss of 40 percent of their muscle mass and "serious damage" in 4 to 7 percent of their muscle fibers. The affected fibers were swollen and had been invaded by white blood cells. Blood vessels had broken and red blood cells had entered the muscle. Half the muscles had damaged nerve endings. The damage may have resulted from factors other than simple disuse, in particular: stress, poor nutrition, and reduced circulation -- all of which are compounded by weightlessness; and radiation exposure -- which is independent of weightlessness. There is concern that damaged blood supply to muscle may adversely affect the blood supply to bone as well [4, 5, 6, 7].

bone damage: Bone tissue is deposited where needed and resorbed where not needed. This process is regulated by the piezoelectric behavior of bone tissue under stress. Because the mechanical demands on bones are greatly reduced in micro gravity, they essentially dissolve. While cortical bone may regenerate, loss of trabecular bone may be irreversible. Diet and exercise have been only partially effective in reducing the damage. Short periods of high-load strength training may be more effective than long endurance exercise on the treadmills and bicycles commonly used in orbit. Evidence suggests that the loss occurs primarily in the weight-bearing bones of the legs and spine. Non-weight-bearing bones, such as the skull and fingers, do not seem to be affected [1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13, 14,15].

hypercalcemia: Fluid loss and bone demineralization conspire to increase the concentration of calcium in the blood, with a consequent increase in the risk of developing urinary stones [1, 4].

immune system changes: There is an increase in neutrophil concentration, decreases in eosinophils, monocytes and B-cells, a rise in steroid hormones and damage to T-cells. In 1983 aboard Spacelab I, when human lymphocyte cultures were exposed in vitro to concanavalin A, the T-cells were activated at only 3 percent of the rate of similarly treated cultures on Earth. Loss of T-cell function may hamper the body's resistance to cancer -- a danger exacerbated by the high-radiation environment of space [1, 3, 5, 16].

interference with medical procedures: Fluid redistribution affects the way drugs are taken up by the body, with important consequences for space pharmacology. Bacterial cell membranes become thicker and less permeable, reducing the effectiveness of antibiotics. Space surgery will also be greatly affected: organs will drift, blood will not pool, and transfusions will require mechanical assistance [1, 3, 17].

vertigo and spatial disorientation: Without a stable gravitational reference, crew members experience arbitrary and unexpected changes in their sense of verticality. Rooms that are thoroughly familiar when viewed in one orientation may become unfamiliar when viewed from a different up-down reference. Skylab astronaut Ed Gibson reported a sharp transition in the familiarity of the wardroom when rotated approximately 45 degrees from the "normal" vertical attitude in which he had trained. There is evidence that, in adapting to weightlessness, the brain comes to rely more on visual cues and less on other senses of motion or position. In orbit, Skylab astronauts lost the sense of where objects were located relative to their bodies when they could not actually see the objects. After returning home, one of them fell down in his own house when the lights went out unexpectedly [4, 18].

space adaptation syndrome: About half of all astronauts and cosmonauts are afflicted. Symptoms include nausea, vomiting, anorexia, headache, malaise, drowsiness, lethargy, pallor and sweating. Susceptibility to Earth-bound motion sickness does not correlate with susceptibility to space sickness. The sickness usually subsides in 1 to 3 days [4,5].

loss of exercise capacity: This may be due to decreased motivation as well as physiological changes. Cosmonaut Valeriy Ryumin wrote in his memoirs: "On the ground, [exercise] was a pleasure, but [in space] we had to force ourselves to do it. Besides being simple hard work, it was also boring and monotonous." Weightlessness also makes it clumsy: equipment such as treadmills, bicycles and rowing machines must be festooned with restraints. Perspiration doesn't drip but simply accumulates. Skylab astronauts described disgusting pools of sweat half an inch deep sloshing around on their breastbones. Clothing becomes saturated [1, 19].

degraded sense of smell and taste: The increase of fluids in the head causes stuffiness similar to a head cold. Foods take on an aura of sameness and there is a craving for spices and strong flavorings such as horseradish, mustard and taco sauce [1, 4].

weight loss: Fluid loss, lack of exercise and diminished appetite result in weight loss. Space travelers tend not to eat enough. Meals and exercise must be planned to prevent excessive loss [1, 19].

flatulence: Digestive gas cannot "rise" toward the mouth and is more likely to pass through the other end of the digestive tract -- in the words of Skylab crewman-doctor Joe Kerwin: "very effectively with great volume and frequency" [1].

facial distortion: The face becomes puffy and expressions become difficult to read, especially when viewed sideways or upside down. Voice pitch and tone are affected and speech becomes more nasal [1].

changes in posture and stature: The neutral body posture approaches the fetal position. The spine tends to lengthen. Each of the Skylab astronauts gained an inch or more of height, which adversely affected the fit of their space suits [1, 20].

changes in coordination: Earth-normal coordination unconsciously compensates for self-weight. In weightlessness, the muscular effort required to reach for and grab an object is reduced. Hence, there is a tendency to reach too "high" [21].
"Many of these changes do not pose problems as long as the crew remains in a weightless environment. Trouble ensues upon the return to life with gravity. The rapid deceleration during reentry is especially stressful as the apparent gravity grows from zero to more than one "g" in a matter of minutes. In 1984, after a 237-day mission, Soviet cosmonauts felt that if they had stayed in space much longer they might not have survived reentry [3]. In 1987, in the later stages of his 326-day mission, Yuri Romanenko was highly fatigued, both physically and mentally. His work day was reduced to 4.5 hours while his sleep period was extended to 9 hours and daily exercise on a bicycle and treadmill consumed 2.5 hours. At the end of the mission, the Soviets implemented the unusual procedure of sending up a "safety pilot" to escort Romanenko back to Earth [22].

"Soviet cosmonauts Vladimir Titov and Moussa Manarov broke the one-year barrier when they completed a 366-day mission on 21 December 1988. Subsequent Russian missions have surpassed that. These long-duration space flights are extraordinary. They are milestones of human endurance. They are not models for space commercialization."


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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2006, 09:46:26 PM »
Sounds like a pipedream. You can start wearing a vest that weight can be added to. Start out with 5 pounds and add a couple of pounds every week. In 10 weeks you will be wearing an additional 25 pounds and that should make a difference in your calves. Do a lot of walking especially up hill. Regarding applying gravity to your other muscles that seems unlikely except for spinal erector and abdominals that do stabilizing. Do what I suggested on Ironage and train your arms for a month to find out how to make muscles grow quickly. Once you have done that you can apply that knowledge to the rest of your physique.

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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2006, 09:46:42 PM »
hmmm seems like a suite filled with magnets that you could charge up with eletctricity somehow with north and southpole forces seems possible
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2006, 09:49:25 PM »
Gravity and Growth – Size Matters for Life on Earth
Size and Embryonic Growth

The shapes and forms that life might take on planets other than Earth has been assumed, both by scientists and novelists, to be ruled by gravity. If rocky planets of greater mass than Earth exist, then the life evolving under the resulting high gravity would be predicted to be short and squat, an ecosystem of diminutive animals of high musculature scuttling under stubby shrubs. In contrast, a planet small in size but still able hold on to an atmosphere would be imagined to be the home of tall, gracile creatures bounding under 300 foot forest canopies.

The animals that live at Earth’s 1g vary in size from single cell protozoa to 100 foot blue whales. Their size and mass are adaptations to the environmental niche in which they live. For instance, large delicate creatures, such as the invertebrate giant squid require the buoyancy of water to support their weight. Large land animals require high bone and muscle mass to support their weight. Under 1g gravity and 1000 millibars atmospheric pressure animals can be small enough to support their own weight in the air with wings to glide or fly. Each species is of a genetically predetermined size and weight to suit their environmental niche. Although this can vary somewhat depending on levels of nutrition, it is vital for the individual to be within a reasonable tolerance of its correct size. A 4 ft tall water buffalo would fare poorly amongst the rest of the herd whereas a 4 ft flying squirrel would be a falling squirrel!



 A four-foot water buffalo meets a four-foot flying squirrel.

The variations that exist in size within each species are usually due to food availability as the animal develops. Variability can also occur during growth of the embryo, but it is important that this is limited because correct size is important at birth. If the animal is too small then its likelihood of surviving is much reduced; if too big then both pup and mother may die if the pup cannot pass easily through the birth canal. There are several reasons however why it may be useful to alter embryonic growth. If food is scarce or there exists an environmental stressor, such as a predator or toxic agent, then it would temporarily be advantageous to have small pups. If the number of embryos is large then, similarly, a small litter is better. Embryonic growth can also be moderated by genetic factors, in particular the insulin-like growth factors, a signaling system that provides a mechanism for parental control of embryonic size through imprinting (http://www.informatics.jax.org/silver/5.5.shtml).

Changes in Growth under High Gravity Conditions
Initially, it may seem surprising that gravity is another factor that influences growth.  Nevertheless many studies have shown that the growth rate of developing animals is slowed down when the pull of gravity is equivalent to double to that normally experienced.  Such is the extent of this effect that rats bred under these conditions for three generations become progressively smaller.  The growth inhibitory effects of gravity however are quite predictable given that size (or mass) is sensed via the judgment of weight and weight will rise with increasing gravity.  It would be reasonable that, in compensation for the apparent increase in size, growth would slow down.  Hoemeostasis is the maintenance of a constant internal condition, such as size.  A homeostatic system is the mechanism by which this is maintained, and the systems that maintain the constant weight of the embryo are so far unknown.  The effect could be at the organ level — for instance stretch receptors may be present in membranes that surround the embryo, which could detect an increasing pull as weight increased.  Alternatively the effect could be at a cellular level.  Although the way in which a single cell could detect an increase in its weight is not known, the suppressive effect of hypergravity on the growth of individual cells has been frequently reported and deformation of the internal skeleton (cytoskeleton) of the cell could provide a sensory system.

Experiments Showing the Effects of Hypergravity on Growth and Gene Expression

Our project investigates the genes involved in detecting and affecting these responses to increased gravity.  A question at this point might be how gravity can be manipulated without travel to a larger planet or by breaking the laws of physics and using a gravity generator.  The answer is to create conditions that mimic gravity using centrifugal force (http://lifesci.arc.nasa.gov/cgbr/home.html).  We have used the 24-foot centrifuge situated at NASA-Ames in California (http://lifesci.arc.nasa.gov/cgbr/24_ft_cent.html) (see below) that allows caged, pregnant animals to be spun at an equivalent force of 2.0g for up to weeks at a time.  This simulates high gravity (hypergravity) conditions.



The 24-foot centrifuge situated at NASA-Ames, California

Mice have a gestation period of 19 days and development of the nervous system starts from embryonic day 7.  We centrifuged pregnant mice from embryonic day 4 up to day 14.  We are using a series of techniques including gene array and Northern blotting to analyze changes in gene expression in the whole embryo and in the brain.  Measuring gene expression tells us which genes are actively encoding proteins that can be used to change the cell’s behavior, e.g. from a growing to a non-growing state. We intend to identify genes that are altered in level of expression as part of the response to increased gravity anticipating that these will be either part of the initial sensing of hypergravity or components of the machinery to reduce growth rate.

We started our analysis at an early point of brain development, embryonic day 10 and compared embryos after 6 days of centrifugation to non-centrifuged controls.  To provide an initial screen to identify which genes change as a result of 2g centrifugation we used the gene array technique (http://www.gene-chips.com/ ).  Gene arrays can identify changes in expression of large numbers of genes in a single experiment.  The level of gene activity is determined by measuring the amount of mRNA that is transcribed from a particular gene — mRNA is the intermediary between the gene and the protein that it encodes messenger RNA (mRNA)

We have screened for two types of genes — those that change in response to stress and those that are part of the cell cycle.  Genes that respond to stress may be part of the means to detect hypergravity; genes of the cell cycle are those that allow the cell to divide and hence are necessary for growth of the organism.

The first striking result of these experiments is that very few genes change in their expression.  This indicates that the effect of gravity is not a generalized stress such as occurs when food intake is limited leading to an overall reduction in protein synthesis.   We find however a decrease in three genes involved in the cell cycle: CDK 5 decreasing by 165%, p15INK4b falling by 192% and Gadd45 dropping by a tremendous 1450%.


Gene array showing the expression of 62 genes
in embryonic day 10 embryos.  Of these only three are
reduced in gene activity comparing centrifuged (right)
versus control (left); CDK5, p15INK4b and Gadd45a.
 
These results imply that there is significant change in cell growth in the centrifuged animals.  This is reflected in a decrease in size in these embryos – at embryonic day 10 the control animals were 3.9 mm whereas the centrifuged embryos had only reached a length of 2.7 mm.  It is clear then that centrifugation depresses the embryos rate of growth and reduces the activity of certain genes that influence the cell cycle.  Could this suppression of growth extend to later periods of development and affect the birth of mature cells, such as neurons?   Such a result had not been previously described but, given the general effects of centrifugation on growth, this was a possibility.   In this case we determined the level of gene activation (the amount of mRNA transcribed from a particular gene) by  Northern blotting

This type of experiment separates the mRNA by size driving the molecules with an electric current through the small pores of a gel, the small mRNAs moving fastest as a band, the large mRNAs moving slower.  The mRNAs of interest are identified by labeled probes of complimentary sequence to the mRNA.  The probes bind very tightly and specifically and the labeling means that they can be visualized.  The figure below shows a Northern blot for NeuroD, a gene that is activated as neurons are born.   The embryos were centrifuged for 8 days and gene expression in the brain measured at embryonic day 12 a time at which many neurons are born.   In the centrifuged sample when compared to several different types of non-centrifuged controls, there is a large decrease in the activity of this gene.  This implies that there is a decrease in the birth of new neurons.

 
Northern blot showing a decline in gene activity of the NeuroD gene in centrifuged animals (Exp, top panel) compared to control groups Cs,Cu and Cf (top panel). The lower panel shows that a control gene does not vary between the samples.
Conclusions So Far…

The purpose of this project is to understand how growth is regulated in the developing embryo under conditions of 2g hypergravity, conditions which deceive the embryo into sensing that it is twice its mass.  The initial results indicate that several genes involved in regulating cell division are reduced during early development (embryonic day 10).  At later developmental stages, a decline in the NeuroD gene necessary for neuronal birth suggests that there may also be a decline in the number of neurons generated in the brain.   This approach will help to comprehend the normal mechanisms of growth homeostasis and also to understand how they may go wrong.  Many birth abnormalities, including those that include mental retardation, involve changes in growth rate and size – whether of the embryo as a whole or limited to the central nervous system.  These diseases include Down syndrome, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, intrauterine growth restriction and deficiencies in iron, iodine or vitamin A.  We expect that there will be some common pathways shared between these syndromes.  The elucidation of genes involved in the regulation of embryonic size and mass will help to identify and characterize these pathways.


 

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Re: VINCE BASILE! Help Requested.
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2006, 09:50:15 PM »
What did you suggest on ironage vince.  I don't read it.

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2006, 09:53:10 PM »
Sounds like a pipedream. You can start wearing a vest that weight can be added to. Start out with 5 pounds and add a couple of pounds every week. In 10 weeks you will be wearing an additional 25 pounds and that should make a difference in your calves. Do a lot of walking especially up hill. Regarding applying gravity to your other muscles that seems unlikely except for spinal erector and abdominals that do stabilizing. Do what I suggested on Ironage and train your arms for a month to find out how to make muscles grow quickly. Once you have done that you can apply that knowledge to the rest of your physique.

I will do your routines as laid out on IRONAGE for me.  In fact I would like you to break down an entire workout for me on that thread there.

I will follow every word you say.

In the meantime,

Your suggestion of wearing a vest is not what I am talking about....I am talking about generating a load to produce 6-7 G forces upon the human body equally for an hour or so a few times a week.  A 25 or 50 lb vest cannot do this.

One other way to do this would be to be placed in some sort of centrifugal machine.

That is another possibility in addition to the muscle gravity suit.

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2006, 10:11:42 PM »
A centrifuge machine will have you pushed back against your seat. Forget that approach. Volume with heavy weights and the right exercise is the way to go.

Here is what you need for triceps. If you haven't got one of these you are in trouble.

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2006, 10:34:00 PM »
I thought about that idea when I was about 6 years old...like if you lived on Jupiter (if it had a solid surface)...ruled it out because unless you had super strong, non stretching yet flexible fabric that had either flexible weights, or small pockets of weights (like 2-3oz each pocket) it wouldn't work...it'd sag to your ankles or wrists or waist. I thought (again, when I was 6 years old), maybe a wetsuit would do the trick, with that malleable lead stripping somehow infused into it (like sandwiched between two layers of Neoprene). But the wetsuit is too weak, would stretch and tear, and/or loose its original shape quickly...unless you used really light weights, but then you wouldn't get much out of it.

So, yes, you could probably build it. But it would cost you thousands in design, custom fabrication, custom materials.

So unless you're independently wealthy...or you could build one with your imagination out of crepe paper, mint glue and those cool felt-tipped pens that smell like fruit or licorace!

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You are missing the point.

You cannot create 6-7 g`s of force in that manner.  A simple vest with some weights will not do.

I am thinking more along the lines of an apparatus of some sorts.

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2006, 10:41:34 PM »
Try an Airforce Jet a little expensive to buy maybe you could rent one.

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2006, 10:47:50 PM »
Try an Airforce Jet a little expensive to buy maybe you could rent one.

Thats not feasible nor efficient.

I would suggest that the G forces need to be applied at least an hour several times a week.

The cost of airline fuel alone is exorbitant to be justified for an hour long jaunt, let alone getting the green light from the military to in effect,"borrow" a jet.  Couple that with lack of pilots liscense I dont think it is feasible.

I will however,research this and see if I can`t figure out a way to build this apparatus.

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2006, 10:58:37 PM »
You do that and keep us all posted.How exciting and you have gone to the best for help Basile.

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2006, 05:34:58 AM »
I have compiled more research in which I will post.

I am going to start with progressive G forces I think. I think just a constant of 2 G`s for few hours a week will prove to be harmless based on my research.

6-7 can only be used for extreem circumstances if one has built up to it.  Its a near impossibility to be feasible as death may occur.

However, Building an apparatus being able to generate constant 6-7Gs in an ambulatory format may be adequate, provided that the G forces can be fired on and off for mere seconds. 

That is a whole other animal.   2-4 G`s is what I am shooting for with build integrity up to 6-7 G forces.

More on this later.

This is my official research thread.

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2006, 05:44:02 AM »
Here is what you do.  Put on a weight suit. Get in your car and get go as fast as you can off a cliff.  The G-force will be around 5 or 6 g's and when you hit the bottom it will increase to about 1000 g's.  If you can do that 2 or 3 times a day you got something. ;D

Another more practical way is wear your weight suit, go to Magic Mountain and ride the ride where it spins around then the floor drops out.  The g force in that is pretty good.

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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2006, 06:27:27 AM »
Here is what you do.  Put on a weight suit. Get in your car and get go as fast as you can off a cliff.  The G-force will be around 5 or 6 g's and when you hit the bottom it will increase to about 1000 g's.  If you can do that 2 or 3 times a day you got something. ;D

Another more practical way is wear your weight suit, go to Magic Mountain and ride the ride where it spins around then the floor drops out.  The g force in that is pretty good.

That is one way I was considering. Donning a weight suit and then researching which amusment park rides produce the rlevant G forces that I am looking for.  To get all the muscle involved I could in fact use different amusement park rides.

There is also adequate Pizza and Ice Cream and doughnuts at an amusement park so the nutrition aspect is more than covered.  A seasons pass to Carowinds is not much either.  Certainly cheaper than a Gym Membership and more fun.

Looks like Daddywaddy and I might have to get Carowinds seasonal passes.

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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2006, 06:28:50 AM »
I was thinking of a liquid filled suit.

For mobility and also for the ease of increasing and decreasing mass using different compounds of density.

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2006, 06:32:32 AM »
They have this really cool ride at 6 Flags Magic Mountain here in cali where everyone gets into a big barrel that spins around really fast, the floor falls out, no one can move, and people start puking on their neighbors.

Did you know that Dan Synder bought out Six Flags and is going to CLOSE DOWN Magic Mountain? It has like 2 of the best rollercoasters in the world and it is going to be closed. :'(

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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2006, 06:42:08 AM »
Did you know that Dan Synder bought out Six Flags and is going to CLOS DOWN Magic Mountain? It has like 2 of the best rollercoasters in the world and it is going to be closed. :'(

The Redskins owner? Why closing down the rollercoasters.
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2006, 06:51:31 AM »
The Redskins owner? Why closing down the rollercoasters.
Yeah, that Snyder and I believe he will rebuild the coasters in other Six Flags parks, but the one at Magic Mountain IMO was the best one I've ever been to. Apparently it's losing money. I've been to the Six Flags park near me in Maryland, and it's sooooooooo ghetto compared to a couple of other I went to.

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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2006, 06:57:42 AM »
Try an Airforce Jet a little expensive to buy maybe you could rent one.
Nah try a tube sock that will work out your wrist


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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 08:21:35 AM »
Daddywaddy,

Do you want to try this, once I am done figuring this all out?

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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2006, 08:23:32 AM »
Daddywaddy,

Do you want to try this, once I am done figuring this all out?

Well I think some other folks may have been working on this.  They are probably living on Jupiter (New Odin) now so if you're interested in hypergravity you should contact them there.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69750.0

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bENEDIKT WILL BE ONE OF MY MEN AT ARMS ON THE GREAT JOURNEY TO JUPITER

HE WILL BE EXPECTED TO SEED 5 VIRGINS ONCE WE HAVE ARRIVED ON NEW ODIN

THAT TANK TOP CONTAINS A POWERFUL MAGICK.  IT LIMITS YOUNG BENEDIKT'S FORCE OUTPUT.

IF HE IS TO SURVIVE ON JUPITER HE MUST BE ABLE TO OVERCOME STRONG GRAVITATIONAL WAVES.  HE MUST BE ABLE TO BREATH UNDER 1000 POUNDS OF WEIGHT IN ADDITION TO BEING ABLE TO WEILD THE HALF TON MACE.  HE IS ALMOST READY.

This thread also has some info

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69753.0

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Re: VINCE BASILE! Help Requested.
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2006, 08:30:02 AM »
A gravity suit cannot be good for your internal organs.
just push some weight!

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Re: VINCE BASILE! Help Requested.
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2006, 08:33:51 AM »
A gravity suit cannot be good for your internal organs.

For a few hours a week it will be fine.


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Re: VINCE BASILE! Help Requested.
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2006, 08:42:14 AM »
For a few hours a week it will be fine.



Might as well just start injecting steroids and ditch the exercise.
just push some weight!