Great job with the madatory comparisons. Ronnie is clearly much harder than Jay. Ronnie seriously makes jay look like an amateur... Size wise it's not even close, hardness isn't evn close. take a look at the inside of jay's arms in the double arms up...they aren't even separated. Do not ever use synthol, you won't get back that detail no matter what. In the side tri, jay doesn't show any real striation...this is the top call out at the #1 bb show in the world. From the back jay looks good, glutes are better than ever, hams look good as does his back., the double bi (back) is basically even, Ronnies lower half and i will say jay has good density in the back so I'll call it even. The lat spread jay may be better today, just because of a scapula problem with Ronnie, NOT because of condition or anything like that. Ronnie did not tear a lat, it is clearly a scapula rotation problem. Maybe a slightly winged scapula or rhomboid problem, but not a lat or terrus major tear. Ronnie is the CLEAR CUT WINNER.