Look at Cutlers back!!!

[body88]

Holy shit. He cleans up that tan its game over. Vic looks pretty damn good to ( I know he is not in these pics)

[corinth]

Jay's upper back looks good there BUT his lower back should be a lot tighter.

[HERACLES]

hmmmi dont know what your looking at, those pics seem to favor Ronnie slightly...Victor 3rd in that pic all the way...

Vics legs in that pic look like from a little girls compared to Ronnies and Jays....look at Ronnies TRAPS TOO!

[body88]

Jay's upper back looks good there BUT his lower back should be a lot tighter.

Haha you cannot even see his lower back in those shots. There is a blatent shadow on it.

[corinth]

Haha you cannot even see his lower back in those shots. There is a blatent shadow on it.

If you can't see those lines of water Jay is holding in his lower back then I hope you never get to judge a bodybulding contest.

[body88]

hmmmi dont know what your looking at, those pics seem to favor Ronnie slightly...Victor 3rd in that pic all the way...

Really? i was shocked when I looked at these pics. Even with the shadow covering jays lower back he still looks crazy.

I think he is killing Ronnie in the rear db.

[body88]

If you can't see those lines of water Jay is holding in his lower back then I hope you never get to judge a bodybulding contest.

He has had those wrinkles since he started competing.Looks like skin to me. People at the show and from the pics are saying Ronnie is soft. Water or not Cutler is drier.

[HERACLES]

Really? i was shocked when I looked at these pics. Even with the shadow covering jays lower back he still looks crazy.

I think he is killing Ronnie in the rear db.

Yes you are right, its all Jay in that R double bi...

Amazing how Ronnie once dominated his opponents in the back shots, I dont know what he did to lose that edge.

I feel sorry for the Judges...this is gonna be a tough one....

[body88]

Yes you are right, its all Jay in that R double bi...

Amazing how Ronnie once dominated his opponents in the back shots, I dont know what he did to lose that edge.

I feel sorry for the Judges...this is gonna be a tough one....

[HERACLES]

He has had those winkles since he startwed competing.Looks like skin to me. People at the show and from the pics are saying Ronnie is soft. Water or not Cutler is drier.

Is Cutler Drier?

 

[body88]

Yes you are right, its all Jay in that R double bi...

Amazing how Ronnie once dominated his opponents in the back shots, I dont know what he did to lose that edge.

I feel sorry for the Judges...this is gonna be a tough one....

I came home from work and expected there to be a bunch of ronnie threads. or a bunch of threads stating how jay could not stack up to ronnie in the back department. Then I saw the pics and was blown away. Cutler has the best back in the world now! Ronnie is showing his age.

[HERACLES]

   

[body88]

Is Cutler Drier?

 

I think so. He does not have the vascularity. In that particular shot you seem to be correct. But in alot of others it looks jay is drier.

[corinth]

Is Cutler Drier?

 

Great post. Jay has absolutely no detail in his arms, delts, and chest. While he has caught up to Ronnie some in the back shots, Ronnie owns Jay from the front. Ronnie will keep his title.

[body88]

Exact same detail. Jay is genetically less vasculer. Look at his leg detail. Kills Ronnie. He lacks upperbody vascularity. Not detail.

[HERACLES]

 

This pic, where Jay OWNS RONNIE...you still see that Ronnie is drier, but who knows how they will judge this thing...

look at the leg difference...

[body88]

 

This pic, where Jay OWNS RONNIE...you still see that Ronnie is drier, but who knows how they will judge this thing...

look at the leg difference...

Herc do you think he is actually drier? Or just much less vasculer? Look at the front relaxed closley. Look at Jays legs in that pic. Then look at the lack of veins in his upper body. Is it just me?

[AVBG]

IMO, the Jay tan looks ok.. it brings out the definition.. Jays only drama is vascularity, GH to blame for that... he is in great shape but IMO to high in bodyweight as it throws off his symetry.. Jay is really on his game from the back..

[corinth]

Exact same detail. Jay is genetically less vasculer. Look at his leg detail. Kills Ronnie. He lacks upperbody vascularity. Not detail.

So vasularity isn't part of detail??? We're just supposed to give Jay a pass? It all counts. Ronnie clearly has more size, shape and detail in the front poses.

[body88]

So vasularity isn't part of detail??? We're just supposed to give Jay a pass? It all counts. Ronnie clearly has more size, shape and detail in the front poses.

It is. I am not saying it is not a drawback for Jay. I am simply stating he is just as dry if not drier.

I would not class vascularity with detail. But that is just me.

[G o a t b o y]

I feel sorry for the Judges...this is gonna be a tough one....

No its not...  Manion & Weider told them a week ago who should win. 



Right Bob? 

[body88]

IMO, the Jay tan looks ok.. it brings out the definition.. Jays only drama is vascularity, GH to blame for that... he is in great shape but IMO to high in bodyweight as it throws off his symetry.. Jay is really on his game from the back..

I think he is a little to dark. Makes him look washed out. He needs to get a bit lighter imo. he kind of looks like the Russians who go to heavy on the dream tan.

[Dan-O]

Holy shit. He cleans up that tan its game over. Vic looks pretty damn good to!

hmmmi dont know what your looking at, those pics seem to favor Ronnie slightly...Victor 3rd in that pic all the way...

Vics legs in that pic look like from a little girls compared to Ronnies and Jays....look at Ronnies TRAPS TOO!

Uhhh...  Vic isn't in either of those photos!  Dex is the 3rd guy in the top photo and Melvin is in the 2nd one.

[body88]

Uhhh...  Vic isn't in either of those photos!  Dex is the 3rd guy in the top photo and Melvin is in the 2nd one.

I know. I was just making a statment about Vic.

[Dan-O]

I know. I was just making a statment about Vic.

Oh...  and yeah, I agree, Vic is on this year.