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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2006, 04:59:05 PM »
You guys who are religious need to understand that your point of views are matter of faith and not matter of fact.

There is 0 - absolutely 0 - evidence to prove any of what you are saying.  That is the point of FAITH.  So don't push it on me like it's fact.

If I believed that Star Wars exists on another galaxy I wouldn't be telling you it is fact.

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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2006, 05:04:44 PM »
You are painting all Christians with the same brush. You make it sound as though a person thanking Jesus for his success is the same as the Salem Witch Hunts that occurred several centuries ago.

Yes that brush is called the bible which teaches everyone else is wrong , we're right and you're going to hell if you don't by our story , if you believe in the bible in what Jesus had to say you're surporting they same system that has done an amazing ammount destruction over the ages and seeks to continue that same path under the guise of religion .

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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2006, 05:05:29 PM »
Yes that brush is called the bible which teaches everyone else is wrong , we're right and you're going to hell if you don't by our story , if you believe in the bible in what Jesus had to say you're surporting they same system that has done an amazing ammount destruction over the ages and seeks to continue that same path under the guise of religion .

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2006, 05:27:52 PM »
Yes that brush is called the bible which teaches everyone else is wrong , we're right and you're going to hell if you don't by our story , if you believe in the bible in what Jesus had to say you're surporting they same system that has done an amazing ammount destruction over the ages and seeks to continue that same path under the guise of religion .

I'll agree that a small % of ultra-right wing "Christian" nutjobs throughout history have caused mankind a great deal of pain and suffering - the same way a small % of extremist Muslim nutjobs who believe that flying jet planes into buildings and killing thousands of Americans guarantees them an eternal paradise in the afterlife. My own personal experience is that the vast majority of Muslims don't seem to be this way. Just as I'm sure that a Christian Ronnie Coleman thanking Jesus probably does not wish any harm on anyone who does not share his beliefs. But I suppose I could be wrong - Ronnie may spend several nights a week burning / stoning people to death he believes to be witches / Pagans, etc... ::)
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2006, 05:32:08 PM »
She was a stuck up bitch, but she DID make good points.  If she wasn't so damn arrogant and made it a point to explain why being SELFISH is actually a more GENEROUS system than being altruistic, people would have given her ideas more credibility.

IMO, "altruism" is rare, possibly even non-existant. I believe we all have a selfish motive for just about everything we do. Even our "no strings attached" good deeds make us feel very good about ourselves. Look at any typical "do gooder" around you. If you look really hard, there is usually a motive: a tax break; uplifting of a lagging self esteem; or (most commonly in my experience) a sense of control and manipulation over others.
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2006, 05:49:41 PM »
I'll agree that a small % of ultra-right wing "Christian" nutjobs throughout history have caused mankind a great deal of pain and suffering - the same way a small % of extremist Muslim nutjobs who believe that flying jet planes into buildings and killing thousands of Americans guarantees them an eternal paradise in the afterlife. My own personal experience is that the vast majority of Muslims don't seem to be this way. Just as I'm sure that a Christian Ronnie Coleman thinking Jesus probably does not wish any harm on anyone who does not share his beliefs. But I suppose I could be wrong - Ronnie may spend several nights a week burning / stoning people to death he believes to be witches / Pagans, etc... ::)


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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.



These are Jesus words according to the new testament , so Jesus adovcates muder of those who wont allow themselves to be ruled by him and he doesn't even have the balls to do it himself . So again you can cherry-pick the bible for all nice versus that you like but this is part & parcel of the same nonsense , you and Ronnie support this nonsense by being members , but in most peoples defense to quote the American Philosopher " Most people believe in the belief of God " most of you are passive-cherry-picking-christians but still support the same system that is responsible the crusades , the inqusition , the oppresion of millions and who continue to try and force their opinion on the rest of us , the same system that still prevent equal rights ( gay marriage ) stem cell research , etc in the day and age , so while you may not be lighting the match you're on the sidelines with the guy who is.

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2006, 07:22:30 PM »
So god exists, big deal...  Doesn't really change anything. There is millions and millions of people already believing in him, and that didn't make anything. BTW, if god created and rules everything on earth, since everything is "gods will" right? Or "god works in mysterious ways" etc etc. Then I think god must be a perverted maniac. :P Maybe god is just downright evil?

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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2006, 07:46:23 PM »
The creation question begs if every creation needs a creator , who created or the creator? and the Unirevse has been proven by science to be 14.7 billion years old using empirical evidence check this

Using a powerfull array of ground and spaced-based telescopes , astronomers can detect galaxies billions of light-years away from Earth. Because light requires one year of time to travel one light-year of distance , our detection of these galaxies proves incontrovertibly that they existed billions of years ago. Otherwise the electromagnetic radiation emiited by these galaxies could not traversed the billion-light-year distance to Earth.

you can't prove that wrong , the assertion that the earth and universe is young is no science its nonsense.

YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT...

SCIENTIST IN ALL OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE CAN'T EVEN TELL WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE LIKE TOMORROW WITH ANY DEGREE OF ACCURACY AND YOU BELIEVE THIS NONSENSE THEY SPEW.

SO FAR AS AN EMPIRACL FACTS...THE ONLY WAY THEIR SO CALL FACTS CAN BE CORRECT IS IF YOU BELIEVE THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED WITH A BIG BANG (DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY) AND BECAUSE OF THIS EVERYTHING BEGAN AT ONE POINT AND SPED AWAY FROM THIS POINT AT A GIVEN SPEED. WITH THIS BELIEF THE DISTANCES THE PLANETS AND GALAXIES ARE FROM ONE ANOTHER AND A SUPPOSED CENTRAL POINT IS DETERMINED TO BE SO MANY TRILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS BASED ON THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THIS LIGHT TO REACH EARTH. BUT TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE GALAXIES DID NOT START IN A CENTRAL POINT  (BIG BANG) BUT WAS BEGAN IN VARIOUS PLACES THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE AT THE SAME TIME!!! THIS TOTALLY KILLS THE AGE OF THE UNIVERSE HYPOTHYSIS, KILLS THE WHOLE TIME SCENARIO AND SINCE NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS REALLY IN SPACE, NO ONE REALLY CAN SAY WITH ASSURITY WHAT HAPPENS TO LIGHT AS IT TRAVELS THROUGH SPACE (BETWEEN GALAXIES). SO ANY SCIENTIFIC "FACTS" CAN AT BEST BE FLAWED WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNIVERSE.

I WILL STICK WITH MY BELIEF IN GOD AND HIS WISDOM, BECAUSE MAN AT BEST IS A RAGING LUNATIC IN COMPARISON. THE UNIVERSE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE IS ONLY 13000 YEARS OLD COMING UP ON 14000 YEARS AND NOTHING HAS PROVED OTHERWISE OR DISPROVED THE BIBLE.
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2006, 08:54:56 PM »
I just watched the press conference clip that was posted.  He mentions Jesus and God everytime he's interviewed.

Doesn't he understand that some people (muslims, jews, etc) may be offended when he says "Our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ"?

or is he stupid?


He doesn't care what any Jew/Muslim thinks.. Jesus is Lord!!!--end of story. 

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2006, 07:03:38 AM »
Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.



These are Jesus words according to the new testament , so Jesus adovcates muder of those who wont allow themselves to be ruled by him and he doesn't even have the balls to do it himself . So again you can cherry-pick the bible for all nice versus that you like but this is part & parcel of the same nonsense , you and Ronnie support this nonsense by being members , but in most peoples defense to quote the American Philosopher " Most people believe in the belief of God " most of you are passive-cherry-picking-christians but still support the same system that is responsible the crusades , the inqusition , the oppresion of millions and who continue to try and force their opinion on the rest of us , the same system that still prevent equal rights ( gay marriage ) stem cell research , etc in the day and age , so while you may not be lighting the match you're on the sidelines with the guy who is.

I don't recall ever revealing my own religious preferences here. I simply have stated that it is ridiculous for anyone to be offended by someone publicly thanking their particular Messiah for their success. Somehow I think that if he thanked Mohamed, people like you and Bast would not be the least offended.

The liberal, pseudo-intellectual hippies who have seemingly taken over this world in recent years don't seem to find fault with any non-Christian religions, although the typical member of this movement is usually atheist. But it has come to the point where Christians, Caucasians, heterosexuals, etc are almost expected to apologize and be ashamed of who and what they are nowadays.

BTW, since you love to criticize the passages of the Bible that appear to encourage violence, what is your opinion of the Koran?
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #60 on: October 01, 2006, 07:37:48 AM »
I don't recall ever revealing my own religious preferences here. I simply have stated that it is ridiculous for anyone to be offended by someone publicly thanking their particular Messiah for their success. Somehow I think that if he thanked Mohamed, people like you and Bast would not be the least offended.

The liberal, pseudo-intellectual hippies who have seemingly taken over this world in recent years don't seem to find fault with any non-Christian religions, although the typical member of this movement is usually atheist. But it has come to the point where Christians, Caucasians, heterosexuals, etc are almost expected to apologize and be ashamed of who and what they are nowadays.

BTW, since you love to criticize the passages of the Bible that appear to encourage violence, what is your opinion of the Koran?

First of all I'm not offended that he thanks Jesus , I find it funny when people do that , its like thanking the easter bunny its laughable. And the reason that people as of late are speaking against Christianity is because they're trying to force their way into every part of the society in the United States and people have had enough , enough with the nonsense of intelligent design , enough with abortion , enough with prayer in school , enough with efforts to curb stem cell reasearch  , etc

The Jews like to be left alone they're not trying to force their religion on the masses and same with the Muslims , they aren't pushing for daily Koran readings in class . Most people in the United States consider themselves Christians and they are going to take the heat for their actions .

And just in case you forgot the great forefathers of the great country wanted to get as far away from religion when they formed this country for a reason and while you think you're under some sort of attack , keep in mind the speration of church and state started with this country and for a while , like a virus the religious people have sickened this country and now rational thought used as an antibiotic is fixing that problem

I don't mind who you worship , pray to the flying spagetti monster if you want but keep your nonsense out of my life & govenment and that includs all religions.



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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #61 on: October 01, 2006, 07:41:00 AM »
YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT...

SCIENTIST IN ALL OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE CAN'T EVEN TELL WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE LIKE TOMORROW WITH ANY DEGREE OF ACCURACY AND YOU BELIEVE THIS NONSENSE THEY SPEW.

SO FAR AS AN EMPIRACL FACTS...THE ONLY WAY THEIR SO CALL FACTS CAN BE CORRECT IS IF YOU BELIEVE THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED WITH A BIG BANG (DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY) AND BECAUSE OF THIS EVERYTHING BEGAN AT ONE POINT AND SPED AWAY FROM THIS POINT AT A GIVEN SPEED. WITH THIS BELIEF THE DISTANCES THE PLANETS AND GALAXIES ARE FROM ONE ANOTHER AND A SUPPOSED CENTRAL POINT IS DETERMINED TO BE SO MANY TRILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS BASED ON THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THIS LIGHT TO REACH EARTH. BUT TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE GALAXIES DID NOT START IN A CENTRAL POINT  (BIG BANG) BUT WAS BEGAN IN VARIOUS PLACES THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE AT THE SAME TIME!!! THIS TOTALLY KILLS THE AGE OF THE UNIVERSE HYPOTHYSIS, KILLS THE WHOLE TIME SCENARIO AND SINCE NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS REALLY IN SPACE, NO ONE REALLY CAN SAY WITH ASSURITY WHAT HAPPENS TO LIGHT AS IT TRAVELS THROUGH SPACE (BETWEEN GALAXIES). SO ANY SCIENTIFIC "FACTS" CAN AT BEST BE FLAWED WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNIVERSE.

I WILL STICK WITH MY BELIEF IN GOD AND HIS WISDOM, BECAUSE MAN AT BEST IS A RAGING LUNATIC IN COMPARISON. THE UNIVERSE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE IS ONLY 13000 YEARS OLD COMING UP ON 14000 YEARS AND NOTHING HAS PROVED OTHERWISE OR DISPROVED THE BIBLE.

So the Big Bang didn't happen huh? lol please do me a favor , subimt your thesis to a scientifc peer reveiw and , when you win the Nobel Prize I'll be the first to polish your medals  ;)

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2006, 08:12:20 AM »
First of all I'm not offended that he thanks Jesus , I find it funny when people do that , its like thanking the easter bunny its laughable. And the reason that people as of late are speaking against Christianity is because they're trying to force their way into every part of the society in the United States and people have had enough , enough with the nonsense of intelligent design , enough with abortion , enough with prayer in school , enough with efforts to curb stem cell reasearch  , etc

The Jews like to be left alone they're not trying to force their religion on the masses and same with the Muslims , they aren't pushing for daily Koran readings in class . Most people in the United States consider themselves Christians and they are going to take the heat for their actions .

And just in case you forgot the great forefathers of the great country wanted to get as far away from religion when they formed this country for a reason and while you think you're under some sort of attack , keep in mind the speration of church and state became with this country and for a while , like a virus the religious people have sickened this country and now rational thought used as an antibiotic is fixing that problem

I don't mind who you worship , pray to the flying spagetti monster if you want but keep your nonsense out of my life & govenment and that includs all religions.




IMO you clearly ARE offended. Your posts reek of rabid anti-Christian intolerance. Were you perhaps molested by a priest in your childhood?

I respect your right to be an atheist. And I won't ridicule your belief (or lack of belief), because (unlike far too many atheists I know) I'm humble enough to admit that I don't know all the answers for sure. Unlike so many double digit IQ atheists I know (no, not all atheists are dumb) in real life who are 100% certain they know that there is no God, no Higher Power, no life forms anywhere else in the universe, and that no one is smarter than them, I'm very open to the possibility that there are things possibly beyond my comprehension and understanding.

As an interesting sidebar, I always find it funny when a hardcore young atheist who has the universe all figured out is forced to move out of Mom's basement and deal with the real world for a year or two. If I had a dollar for each of these guys who eventually became an extreme "Born Again" Christian after having the real world kick their asses a little bit, I'd be quite wealthy.

Because of my acceptance of the fact that I do not know everything and am not the smartest being in the universe (and my general sense of proper etiquette in real life), I choose not to ridicule other's beliefs. I don't have the time or inclination to argue these possibilities for thousands of pages with you. I'll just agree to disagree and leave it at that. But if you are so outwardly intolerant of Christianity and religion in real life, it's not hard to see why you have the time yourself.
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2006, 08:37:06 AM »
IMO you clearly ARE offended. Your posts reek of rabid anti-Christian intolerance. Were you perhaps molested by a priest in your childhood?

I respect your right to be an atheist. And I won't ridicule your belief (or lack of belief), because (unlike far too many atheists I know) I'm humble enough to admit that I don't know all the answers for sure. Unlike so many double digit IQ atheists I know (no, not all atheists are dumb) in real life who are 100% certain they know that there is no God, no Higher Power, no life forms anywhere else in the universe, and that no one is smarter than them, I'm very open to the possibility that there are things possibly beyond my comprehension and understanding.

As an interesting sidebar, I always find it funny when a hardcore young atheist who has the universe all figured out is forced to move out of Mom's basement and deal with the real world for a year or two. If I had a dollar for each of these guys who eventually became an extreme "Born Again" Christian after having the real world kick their asses a little bit, I'd be quite wealthy.

Because of my acceptance of the fact that I do not know everything and am not the smartest being in the universe (and my general sense of proper etiquette in real life), I choose not to ridicule other's beliefs. I don't have the time or inclination to argue these possibilities for thousands of pages with you. I'll just agree to disagree and leave it at that. But if you are so outwardly intolerant of Christianity and religion in real life, it's not hard to see why you have the time yourself.


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MO you clearly ARE offended. Your posts reek of rabid anti-Christian intolerance. Were you perhaps molested by a priest in your childhood?
Yawn , I'm very anit-theist , not Christianity all relgions are equal nonsense

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I respect your right to be an atheist. And I won't ridicule your belief (or lack of belief), because (unlike far too many atheists I know) I'm humble enough to admit that I don't know all the answers for sure. Unlike so many double digit IQ atheists I know (no, not all atheists are dumb) in real life who are 100% certain they know that there is no God, no Higher Power, no life forms anywhere else in the universe, and that no one is smarter than them, I'm very open to the possibility that there are things possibly beyond my comprehension and understanding.

Atheism by virtue is without belief so to say Atheistism is a belief is like saying bald is a hair color. And I'll be first to admit I don't know everything but what I do know is science has proven their story of the creation of the universe false. And to put you in your place MESNA complied a study and found out that the smarter a person the less likely they are to be religious , so while you may know some stupid Atheists the majority are among the most educated and intelligent people in the United States . and the irony is almost all religions claim exactly what you're accusing me off , knowing all the answers lol remember I conted we're all Atheists , I just take it one God further  ;)

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As an interesting sidebar, I always find it funny when a hardcore young atheist who has the universe all figured out is forced to move out of Mom's basement and deal with the real world for a year or two. If I had a dollar for each of these guys who eventually became an extreme "Born Again" Christian after having the real world kick their asses a little bit, I'd be quite wealthy.

Once again you're dead wrong , I'm not young by any stretch of the imagination and I never figured out the universe , science has using evidence and not faith , and I haven't lived with my mom since I was 15 !!

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Because of my acceptance of the fact that I do not know everything and am not the smartest being in the universe (and my general sense of proper etiquette in real life), I choose not to ridicule other's beliefs. I don't have the time or inclination to argue these possibilities for thousands of pages with you. I'll just agree to disagree and leave it at that. But if you are so outwardly intolerant of Christianity and religion in real life, it's not hard to see why you have the time yourself.

Again I never claimed to be omnipotent , what I do know is the bible's version of how things happened is proveably wrong , and while you're choose not to " ridicule " others beliefs I choose to exercise my freedom of speech and laugh at your nonsense , of Virgins for mothers and ghosts for fathers , and burning bushes talking to people now those are funny stories

Once again you contradict yourself , you claim not to know everything yet in the same breathe accuse me of being ' outwardly intolerant " which unless you know me personally you're making a grave assumption and that is flat out wrong  ;) I don't beat people who don't agree with me , I don't threaten them with a enternal damnation because they don't agree with me , I don't burn them at the stake , and I could go on and on but you get the point , then again you don't lol





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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2006, 09:07:31 AM »
1) Who cares about "muslims, jews, etc" being offended by someone who follows another religion thanking his Messiah? It's not as if he was insulting Muslims or Jews by thanking Christ. People are WAY too easily offended these days.

2) Nowadays, if a Muslim thanks Mohamed, or homosexual thanks a gay activist, none of us "silent majority" types has any right or reason to be the least bit offended, according to the current liberal bias that is so prevalent. If they want to be accepted by all as legitimate, they need to stop being so damned hypersensitive and drop the sense of entitlement to special treatment and the expectation of being put upon pedestals.

3) It seems to me that Muslims, Jews, etc who would be offended (by a Christian giving thanks to his Messiah) are not very secure in themselves and their beliefs. If they were, they would be more tolerant and not be the least bit bothered.

By and large, it ain't the Muslims and Jews complaining about references to God/Jesus Christ. It's the humanist/atheist types who take it upon themselves to erroneously blubber, bleat, and whine, on their behalf.

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« Reply #65 on: October 01, 2006, 09:15:30 AM »
By and large, it ain't the Muslims and Jews complaining about references to God/Jesus Christ. It's the humanist/atheist types who take it upon themselves to erroneously blubber, bleat, and whine, on their behalf.

If Muslims wanted the term " One nation under Alah " in the pledge , atheists would be fighting to get that removed , so its NOT on any religions behalf that atheists want religion out its out of the first amendment .

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« Reply #66 on: October 01, 2006, 09:33:21 AM »
If Muslims wanted the term " One nation under Alah " in the pledge , atheists would be fighting to get that removed , so its NOT on any religions behalf that atheists want religion out its out of the first amendment .

You mean like those nice atheists who were having a cow, filing a lawsuit against the folks in Jacksonville, FL, because they were holding a rally (involving multiple faith) to curb the recent rashes of homicide in that city.

Or, the homeless guy in Austin, TX, who is somehow "offended" that the Ten Commandments is in the lawn of the government building. Perhaps, it's part of that 4th commandment, "...Six days shalt thou labor and work" that got on his nerves.

As for your "One nation under Allah" foolishness, this nation wasn't formed by followers of Islam. 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were Christians, like it or not.

Perhaps, instead of a stupid lawsult (which they will likely lose), the no-God squad (American Atheists) should have formed their own group: Heathens United to Stop Homicide (HUSH)!!

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« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2006, 09:55:02 AM »
First of all I'm not offended that he thanks Jesus , I find it funny when people do that , its like thanking the easter bunny its laughable. And the reason that people as of late are speaking against Christianity is because they're trying to force their way into every part of the society in the United States and people have had enough , enough with the nonsense of intelligent design , enough with abortion , enough with prayer in school , enough with efforts to curb stem cell reasearch  , etc

The Jews like to be left alone they're not trying to force their religion on the masses and same with the Muslims , they aren't pushing for daily Koran readings in class . Most people in the United States consider themselves Christians and they are going to take the heat for their actions .

And just in case you forgot the great forefathers of the great country wanted to get as far away from religion when they formed this country for a reason and while you think you're under some sort of attack , keep in mind the speration of church and state started with this country and for a while , like a virus the religious people have sickened this country and now rational thought used as an antibiotic is fixing that problem

I don't mind who you worship , pray to the flying spagetti monster if you want but keep your nonsense out of my life & govenment and that includs all religions.



You mean people of sick of gay activists trying to convince others (and themselves) that gay "marriage" is a civil right and homosexuality is normal (hence the state marriage amendments passing by an average of 70-30). They are also sick of their kids being picked on and persecuted for praying in schools (i.e. a valedictorian getting the mike cut off during her speech, because of the horrific crime of thanking God for her success, kids actually mentioning Jesus at Christmas time...THE HORROR!!!!). Intelligent Design? Despite being force-fed "Goo to you by way of the zoo!" (aka evolution), nearly half of citizens polled still ain't buying it.

Stem-Cell research? Last time I checked, only ONE type of such research was being blocked: embryonic stem cell research. All we hear about is the potential of such work. But, as the saying goes, potential don't buy the groceries. There are various other types of stem cell research that work wonders, WITHOUT the ethical scenarios involves. But, certain folks would have you believe that the only reason that people are still stuck in wheelchairs, plaqued with Alzheimers, etc. is because them mean ol' conservative Christians won't support politicians who want the government to foot the bill to let them hack up embryos at will.

"Separation of church and state" is the biggest LIE in American history. Atheists and liberals took a phrase by Thomas Jefferson, which he gave in a letter to a Baptist Church, took it WAAAAAAAAYYYYY out of context, and they've been running amok ever since then.

However, based on the recent rashes of defeats that groups like the ACLU, People For the American Way, etc. have been dealt, the courts have had enough of frivilous lawsuits by the religiously paranoid.


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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2006, 10:27:47 AM »
Ronnie & his theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWBq7IQLv0&mode=related&search

In the name of Jesus!    ;D  Come on guys, he's just doing what the Lord wants him to do... sheesh  ::)

Great video of one of the best doing his thing.
The guy was and still is  pretty awesome. He stood on the top of the bodybuilding mountain for nearly a decade..he may not be done , yet?He still has that mass and can handle unGODLY wts with ease. No matter, that quick video is a vivid reminder of just how great a bodybuilder he is, even if he never competes again. At 42 he is NOT washed up, just not at his all time best.
As for his faith, that is his business.
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2006, 10:48:11 AM »
You mean like those nice atheists who were having a cow, filing a lawsuit against the folks in Jacksonville, FL, because they were holding a rally (involving multiple faith) to curb the recent rashes of homicide in that city.

Or, the homeless guy in Austin, TX, who is somehow "offended" that the Ten Commandments is in the lawn of the government building. Perhaps, it's part of that 4th commandment, "...Six days shalt thou labor and work" that got on his nerves.

As for your "One nation under Allah" foolishness, this nation wasn't formed by followers of Islam. 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were Christians, like it or not.

Perhaps, instead of a stupid lawsult (which they will likely lose), the no-God squad (American Atheists) should have formed their own group: Heathens United to Stop Homicide (HUSH)!!

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It feels like taking candy from a baby  ;) you ever hear of the Treaty of Tripoli?

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion so much for you theory of this being a christian nation ! you claim 52 of the 55 singers were christians is nonsense most were deists NOT Christians deists , most in fact were very critical of the Christian religion , Thomas Jefferson even rewrote the new testament sans all miracles of course , so know history before you comment.

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #70 on: October 01, 2006, 11:07:05 AM »
You mean people of sick of gay activists trying to convince others (and themselves) that gay "marriage" is a civil right and homosexuality is normal (hence the state marriage amendments passing by an average of 70-30). They are also sick of their kids being picked on and persecuted for praying in schools (i.e. a valedictorian getting the mike cut off during her speech, because of the horrific crime of thanking God for her success, kids actually mentioning Jesus at Christmas time...THE HORROR!!!!). Intelligent Design? Despite being force-fed "Goo to you by way of the zoo!" (aka evolution), nearly half of citizens polled still ain't buying it.

Stem-Cell research? Last time I checked, only ONE type of such research was being blocked: embryonic stem cell research. All we hear about is the potential of such work. But, as the saying goes, potential don't buy the groceries. There are various other types of stem cell research that work wonders, WITHOUT the ethical scenarios involves. But, certain folks would have you believe that the only reason that people are still stuck in wheelchairs, plaqued with Alzheimers, etc. is because them mean ol' conservative Christians won't support politicians who want the government to foot the bill to let them hack up embryos at will.

"Separation of church and state" is the biggest LIE in American history. Atheists and liberals took a phrase by Thomas Jefferson, which he gave in a letter to a Baptist Church, took it WAAAAAAAAYYYYY out of context, and they've been running amok ever since then.

However, based on the recent rashes of defeats that groups like the ACLU, People For the American Way, etc. have been dealt, the courts have had enough of frivilous lawsuits by the religiously paranoid.



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You mean people of sick of gay activists trying to convince others (and themselves) that gay "marriage" is a civil right and homosexuality is normal (hence the state marriage amendments passing by an average of 70-30). They are also sick of their kids being picked on and persecuted for praying in schools (i.e. a valedictorian getting the mike cut off during her speech, because of the horrific crime of thanking God for her success, kids actually mentioning Jesus at Christmas time...THE HORROR!!!!). Intelligent Design? Despite being force-fed "Goo to you by way of the zoo!" (aka evolution), nearly half of citizens polled still ain't buying it.

Those who deny gay marriage as a right are Anti-American , gay people are tax paying members of the United States and should recieve every right that anyone is , its discrimination plain & simple ! homosexuality is normal its be around since man has , and its been around a long time before your nonsense bible condemned it .

Prayer in school isn't prevented just mandatory prayer is and your kids are allowed to pray silently , no one can stop them from doing that and if God is as so great as you claim he is I'm sure he'd be able to hear them just the same

Intelligent Design is Christian Creationism just repacked and its junk-science , faith-based scripture-based nonsense , Evolution is a fact , plain and simple there are mountians of evidence to suport it and if you want your children to pray in school , and learn junk-science , and kiss God's ass all day long , feel free to enroll them in a religious school , because I don't want my tax dollars spent on nonsense.

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Stem-Cell research? Last time I checked, only ONE type of such research was being blocked: embryonic stem cell research. All we hear about is the potential of such work. But, as the saying goes, potential don't buy the groceries. There are various other types of stem cell research that work wonders, WITHOUT the ethical scenarios involves. But, certain folks would have you believe that the only reason that people are still stuck in wheelchairs, plaqued with Alzheimers, etc. is because them mean ol' conservative Christians won't support politicians who want the government to foot the bill to let them hack up embryos at will.

The funding for embryonic stem cell reserach is being prevented and Christians wont prevent it , its going to happen and when all the bennefits are available Christians will be lining up in droves to reap them , this is just another example of Religion trying to prevent science and you've failed once again

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"Separation of church and state" is the biggest LIE in American history. Atheists and liberals took a phrase by Thomas Jefferson, which he gave in a letter to a Baptist Church, took it WAAAAAAAAYYYYY out of context, and they've been running amok ever since then.

However, based on the recent rashes of defeats that groups like the ACLU, People For the American Way, etc. have been dealt, the courts have had enough of frivilous lawsuits by the religiously paranoid.

Sure it is   ::) lol the Fore fathers had the sense back then to make sure your nonsense didn't impead of the state again , they all left England for that very reason , just like your noation this was a Christian-based country  ::) and the funny part is Atheists are the ones who feel their under attack its the religious right who does , always complaining about how Christianity is under attack talk about irony the biggest offenders of attacks and wars for the past 2000 years and your under attack lol what a joke

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #71 on: October 01, 2006, 11:21:24 AM »
It feels like taking candy from a baby  ;) you ever hear of the Treaty of Tripoli?

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion so much for you theory of this being a christian nation ! you claim 52 of the 55 singers were christians is nonsense most were deists NOT Christians deists , most in fact were very critical of the Christian religion , Thomas Jefferson even rewrote the new testament sans all miracles of course , so know history before you comment.

Is that right? Let's see:

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Congregationalist         13    
Presbyterian               12    
Quaker                          2    
Unitarian or Universalist  2    
Catholic                   1




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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #72 on: October 01, 2006, 11:31:47 AM »
Those who deny gay marriage as a right are Anti-American , gay people are tax paying members of the United States and should recieve every right that anyone is , its discrimination plain & simple ! homosexuality is normal its be around since man has , and its been around a long time before your nonsense bible condemned it .

Prayer in school isn't prevented just mandatory prayer is and your kids are allowed to pray silently , no one can stop them from doing that and if God is as so great as you claim he is I'm sure he'd be able to hear them just the same

Intelligent Design is Christian Creationism just repacked and its junk-science , faith-based scripture-based nonsense , Evolution is a fact , plain and simple there are mountians of evidence to suport it and if you want your children to pray in school , and learn junk-science , and kiss God's ass all day long , feel free to enroll them in a religious school , because I don't want my tax dollars spent on nonsense.

The funding for embryonic stem cell reserach is being prevented and Christians wont prevent it , its going to happen and when all the bennefits are available Christians will be lining up in droves to reap them , this is just another example of Religion trying to prevent science and you've failed once again

Sure it is   ::) lol the Fore fathers had the sense back then to make sure your nonsense didn't impead of the state again , they all left England for that very reason , just like your noation this was a Christian-based country  ::) and the funny part is Atheists are the ones who feel their under attack its the religious right who does , always complaining about how Christianity is under attack talk about irony the biggest offenders of attacks and wars for the past 2000 years and your under attack lol what a joke




Their rights are the same as anybody else. With the exception of one state, marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. Homosexuality has been around a long time, and it's been recognized as immoral for a long time as well. What's your point?

It doesn't matter if you're as gay as the day is long, if you wish to get married, your spouse must be of the OPPOSITE sex, period.

When you can show someone evolving from a puddle of goo, then you can claim that evolution is fact. Till then, you have a myriad of speculation, fueled by materialistic/naturalistic scientists, many of whom had FLAT OUT ADMITTED that evolution was deliberately derived to have a godless explanation for life on this planet.

As far as stem cell research is concerned, embryonic stem cell research has produced cures to absolutely NOTHING. Other forms of stem cell research are curing disease TODAY, right now, with virtually none of the ethical controversies.

The reason that the founding fathers left England is so that they can practice their religious beliefs WILLINGLY, not by mandate of the government. Said another way, if the founding fathers want a Christian nation, they can have it by reason of their ballot.

In other words, they acknowledges God in government BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SO, not because they had to do so.

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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #73 on: October 01, 2006, 11:32:32 AM »
So the Big Bang didn't happen huh? lol please do me a favor , subimt your thesis to a scientifc peer reveiw and , when you win the Nobel Prize I'll be the first to polish your medals  ;)

PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND SUBMIT YOUR PROOF A BIG BANG HAPPENED....

AS IT STANDS NO PROOF EXISTS.
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Re: Is Ronnie Coleman George W. Bush?
« Reply #74 on: October 01, 2006, 11:42:43 AM »
Is that right? Let's see:

Episcopalian/Anglican     32    
Congregationalist         13    
Presbyterian               12    
Quaker                          2    
Unitarian or Universalist  2    
Catholic                   1




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Show me your proof for these claims !