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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2006, 11:36:13 PM »
Jay wouldn't have beaten Ronnie if it weren't for his poor back.



 He wouldn't have beaten me either,if it weren't for my poor back,legs,arms,chest,shoulders and face.










  other than that I dwarf him.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2006, 12:41:45 AM »
He wouldn't have beaten me either,if it weren't for my poor back,legs,arms,chest,shoulders and face.
  other than that I dwarf him.

Pure redundancy, monster exaggeration on a fine point delivered by myself.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2006, 12:51:02 AM »
Jay has the better back, but that pose is more than just back.

thats true...but ya cant help but notice the obvious flaw. Unfortunately/obviously the judges couldnt look past it.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2006, 01:15:42 AM »
I knew that Ronnie was going to be in trouble as soon as I saw the back.  The difference between even last year and this year is staggering.  If Neo or Hulkster can pull up a back double bi from 2003, you will see that this win was more a result of Ronnie sliding "back" to mediocrity than Jay coming up significantly.  Ronnie was huge from the side and front, however his waist was also bigger.  To be honest, I had Vic or Dex winning in a legit contest, but I knew it would come down to Ronnie and Jay.  To me, Jay looked very average from the front and side.  This was as political a victory as there ever was.  However, to be honest, the Mr. Olympia has the better back and between the two Jay won tonight.  It is sad to see a great champion go down not by a better challenger, so to speak, but because of injury.  Hulkster, you rag on Dorian repeatedly about his imbalances; today, Ronnie is downright half as large on his left side as his right.  I believe this discrepency was too much to overcome.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2006, 01:22:04 AM »
I think I saw some suggestion that it was judged more akin to saying that Jay won almost everything suprisingly.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2006, 01:23:44 AM »
I think I saw some suggestion that it was judged more akin to saying that Jay won almost everything suprisingly.

The way I see it...If Ronnie lost because of his back and gut then Martinez should have won

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2006, 01:24:18 AM »
Jay got almost straight one's yesterday, huh?

Weird.  Standard.  But weird.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2006, 01:28:27 AM »
I think in all honesty that this is one of the first times the ifbb have done the right thing, Ronnies a great bodybuilder but the massive flaw in his back just couldnt be ignored, i was actually embarressed for him having to get on stage with such an injury, the thing is IF it was between ronnie and jay can you imagine if Ronnie had won with that huge problem, that wouldnt have been right and i think everyone knows it, even hardcore Ronnie fans.

Ronnie wasnt at his best and he paid the price, simple as that. The better man won on the night.
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2006, 02:47:58 AM »
There is difference between having a gut and a wide waist. Ronnie had a gut, Cutler has a wide waist.
The IFBB has a mandate for guts not wide waist.  How small do you think Cutler's waist is going to be at 5'8 280 lbs?  He stomach is flat and that's what is needed.

Basically Cutler just stomped a mudhole in the PDI and Demilia.
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2006, 03:25:10 AM »
this is ridiculous..ronnie lost fair and square and everyone should admit this fact..ronnie was really off from his back poses.from the front coleman was just few percent better than iron jay but still it was really close...jay had coleman from the back..jays arms were as big as colemans..jays legs were better..coleman looked awesome from the side.jays mid-section was slightly better than coleman..ronnie owned him in the most muscular..jay owned him in side tricep pose..condition wise ronnie was more grainier but jay was bigger and and a bit harder..it could have gone either way..i don't see any politics..jay was definetly the better man.. ok so if ronnie would have won then the discussion would have been other way round..people would have said jay was better and he sould have won..then you all would go on bashing coleman that he won the olympia without a back and a tricep..then you all would have said ronnie is disgrace and jay was robbed like the way he was robbed in 2001..then you all would have said that how can a guy like jay whos back is better than coleman did not win mr olympia..then you all would have keep on tearing down coleman..come on people get real..it showed in almost every pose that jay was the better and more conditioned guy..just accept this fact and move on
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2006, 04:35:10 AM »
Titus & Kelly appear...they gets arrested
Kamali appears....his career goes in the tank.

There's some bad mojo on that show.
Wow, thats kind of screwed up actually.  Lee Priest appears wins NOC but banned from competing at the O.  Paul Dillet appeared and looked terrible in Montreal.  Cutler hasnt shown up once this year and wins. ?????
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2006, 04:39:28 AM »
I see no fix, Ronnie simply did not win fair and square. With all due respect to the 8 time champ, his body is not pleasant. His torso just kills ot for me.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2006, 05:03:53 AM »
cq: neither cutler or coleman should be top 2...

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2006, 05:38:23 AM »
cq: neither cutler or coleman should be top 2...
blah blah blah blah blah.....your retarded
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2006, 05:49:17 AM »
cq: neither cutler or coleman should be top 2...

I hesitate to post this but I agree. Personally, I would rather see physiques like Toney, Dex, Melvin and Victor up top.

I await the flames :D

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2006, 06:14:32 AM »
I hesitate to post this but I agree. Personally, I would rather see physiques like Toney, Dex, Melvin and Victor up top.

I await the flames :D

Jay has paid his dues, done his homework, and deserved his win last night.  I also think he will be a far superior representative of the sport/activity of bodybuilding.  We all knew that when Ronnie's reign came to an end that it would be Jay to start the next reign.  The only question is "how long will Jay's reign be"?  He is still young by bodybuilding standards and he is too good to be a flash in the pan.

congratulations Jay!

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2006, 06:18:53 AM »
Jay has paid his dues, done his homework, and deserved his win last night.  I also think he will be a far superior representative of the sport/activity of bodybuilding.  We all knew that when Ronnie's reign came to an end that it would be Jay to start the next reign.  The only question is "how long will Jay's reign be"?  He is still young by bodybuilding standards and he is too good to be a flash in the pan.

congratulations Jay!

THANK YOU!!! Great post - Let the dude enjoy this....whether it's his one and only Sandow or the 1st of 3...4...or 5........

The better guy won - I tell you what though - he looked a hell of a lot better last night than he did on Friday. Coleman smoothed out considerably.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2006, 07:09:10 AM »
if there was a fix in place don't you think they would have went ahead with the PPV so they could make money on the replays?
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2006, 07:20:23 AM »
Jay is just keeping the O title warm for Phil Heath.  You heard it here first.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2006, 07:32:21 AM »
if there was a fix in place don't you think they would have went ahead with the PPV so they could make money on the replays?

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2006, 08:13:47 AM »
cq: neither cutler or coleman should be top 2...

Correct.  The O finals have been way closer in the last 5 years and the nod went to the champ.  If you're gonna be biased, at least be consistently biased. 

Jay is just keeping the O title warm for Phil Heath.  You heard it here first.

Wow, a prediction that Phil Heath will be Mr O.  This has to be the first time we've ever heard that here on getbig :)

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2006, 09:57:14 AM »
Ronnie took the bullet so that the IFBB could look like the league "where dreams come true".

And they allowed him to be made to play the fool by probably encouraging him to play up the reigning champion angle.  

The fact that Jay lost in 2001 but won in 2006 speaks volumes.  He certainly didn't have that kind of advantage tonight, and won.

Agreed, I clearly had Jay winning in 2001, if there was a year he should've taken it, it was then.  But last night.....m'eh ::)
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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2006, 10:22:26 AM »
jay's victory speech:

why was it not a spontaneous effusion of the "thank you jesus/kerry/mom and dad" kind, but rather a carefully crafted political statement?

was there a need for a more eloquent spokesperson that was met yesterday? I guess in times of trouble you need more than "Jay be smoking that crack again."

Dex can't speak worth a damn, can Victor?

is melvin anthony respected in bb circles?

the IFBB, a place where dreams can come true.

but you need a profile that includes a lot more than meets the eye.


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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2006, 12:41:21 PM »
melvin congrats to the mr olympia title. Congrats to dex for second place. Rockel impressed with his third place.

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Re: The fix was in!
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2006, 01:25:51 PM »
THE FIX WAS IN!  congratulations to jay cutler for FIXXing colemens out of shap waterblogged ass and sending him back to texas!