The first time a Mr. Olympia wins, he is usally dominant. Haney in 1984...Dorian in 1992...Ronnie in 1998. If any of those versions came up on this version of Jay, they would have beaten him. Maybe Haney 1984 would have had difficulty as GH and slin were not used, but Dorian and "younger" Ronnie would have killed him. Jay is a stopgap; a paper champion holding the title until someone more worthy wins. I feel that Ronnie came in looking so poorly (from the back...compare this show to earlier versions and you will see) that they could not justify keeping him champ. However, I agree that Vic looked better than Cutler. Even the dude on Flexonline felt if it were a true show without politics, Vic would have won.