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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2006, 06:42:39 PM »
Jay is now the spokesman for the IFBB. He assumed that role with his win. His message? If you want to win the Olympia and fulfill your dreams then do what I did and stay with the IFBB because that is the only way you can win it.

DeMilia was an IFBB man for eons and it is a pity they let a good promoter go. We will see how things develop but the Olympia is still THE contest to win and the silence at the press conference where NOT ONE competitor supported Lee is sobering. No one is risking his chances in the Olympia. End of story so far.

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2006, 06:47:23 PM »
Every pro I know has *zero* interest in going to the PDI.


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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2006, 06:59:34 PM »
....first off, Lee....you're too funny.  Just cause you can't win the Mr O, don't slag on Jay for sticking up for his federation.  I'm sure you'll win EVERY damn PDI show from now till it fades into obscurity.  The PDI will always be a second tier organization....I mean, how many big leagues do you have in ANY sport? ....ONE.  The rest are just second best, and if you wanna compete for second best, then go ahead and compete in the PDI. 

I would give the PDI the time of day if it was ANY different than the PDI, but their judging criteria is the SAME as the IFBB...just on a lesser quality of physique.  So until Phil Heath goes to the PDI.....the day a TRULY good physique wins a PDI show over what they have already displayed as a trophy winning physique, that'll be the day I pay attention...ie, not some bloated mass monster taking the top prize.  And that WILL happen, the day Lee decides not to compete.

Secondly, 240, the PDI has no impact on the IFBB.  Jay was just saying what was on his mind.  That's all...and now that he's on top, all the power to him.  The rest of the years show's can be about symmetry and all that, but the Mr O will always be about the biggest and most ripped.  I've gotten over it....have you?

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2006, 07:12:19 PM »

Hey Lee, hope you enjoyed the Olympia.  I'm glad Jay said that because quite frankly the PDI is nothing more than a bunch of smoke and mirrors which people that have as much right to being called Pro Bodybuilders as I do. 


Samir didn't get his free tickets???  So what??  He can buy them himself, its not like he's broke or anything like that.

Raymond's press pass getting pulled....good....Should n't be advertising for the PDI or maybe my warning I posted months ago wasn't heard.  I told you folks what would happen if you started spouting off that PDI crap at the Olympia.  I got good sources on my info, bro.  You're just lucky you didn't say squat about the PDI at the booth or you may have been thrown out   


You getting dissed by Melvin.  So what??  You put his name in the mix on the boards last month, remember.  He's just returning the favor.


Jay making the statement about the IFBB being the only place to compete....good for him.  He knows the real deal.



Vince Galanti, Vince Taylor, TJ...they all smartened up when they saw between the lies.  The only reason you're competing in the PDI is because its easy money for you to beat some rank amatuers,








That's the way it is Lee, deal with it


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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2006, 07:15:58 PM »

Secondly, 240, the PDI has no impact on the IFBB.  Jay was just saying what was on his mind. 

so the man just made history - the 11th man to  be called mr olympia, dethroned an 8 time mr olympia, after years of trying (coming in 2nd 4 times)
and the only thing on his mind is that the PDI doesn't offer/have the mr. olympia title???

why does he even care about the pdi?
why is he mentioning something that is "so insignificant" during his moment of glory??


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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2006, 07:20:38 PM »
You where indirectly saying it happened. When has Jay been anything but a professional at any point in his career. You really think he would do that? You think a guy that works that hard would not want to win it with hard work and determination?

I'm saying it could have happened like that if Jay wanted it to.  I'm not saying it's in Jay's character to do so, but he has the power to do that if he wanted to and have that type of impact.  He is a very important pro in the IFBB.
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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2006, 07:23:42 PM »
you know what they say about looking gift horses in the mouth
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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2006, 07:23:54 PM »
Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.

Geezus. Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? Talk about the IFBB being anal.

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2006, 07:28:14 PM »
Geezus. Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? Talk about the IFBB being anal.

This wasn't an IFBB deal.  AMI promotes the Olympia.  AMI distributes press passes.  AMI prints Flex and Muscle and Fitness, promotion of the PDI is taking money out of Pecker's pocket, so not a big surprise.
If you going to point fingers, try and point them at the correct parties.

The IFBB is not GOD or lightning would have struck the NOC instead of lousy physiques!
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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2006, 07:38:17 PM »
This wasn't an IFBB deal.  AMI promotes the Olympia.  AMI distributes press passes.  AMI prints Flex and Muscle and Fitness, promotion of the PDI is taking money out of Pecker's pocket, so not a big surprise.
If you going to point fingers, try and point them at the correct parties.

The IFBB is not GOD or lightning would have struck the NOC instead of lousy physiques!

You don't think the IFBB has absolutely nothing to do with the crap that may run within the federation with no influence? Doubtful....

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #60 on: October 01, 2006, 07:45:43 PM »
You don't think the IFBB has absolutely nothing to do with the crap that may run within the federation with no influence? Doubtful....

Influence Yes, I agree. But it just boils down to a sound business decision from AMI.  If the PDI fails, it is more money in their pocket.  So why wouldn't they punish those who think otherwise?  It just so happens that this parallels the IFBB wishes as well.  I am a Bodybuilding fan and the best of the best will be in the IFBB, and that is what I want to pay to see, so I support them. 
The PDI has nothing to offer, damn most of the people on stage wouldn't even make the top ranks of NABBA, WABBA, NPC or whatever.  If the arrogance of the PDIdiots tuned it down and stopped calling it a pro league I might even give them a closer look but outside of a small handful, nobody on that stage was PRO caliber.
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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #61 on: October 01, 2006, 07:51:26 PM »
You have to think why so many of these guys hold onto the thought that one day they will be Mr Olympia when history has shown only a few will ever get to win.Jay will go down in history as did Franco,Samir and Dickerson as a one time winner.2007 will be ????.

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« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2006, 08:02:45 PM »
Influence Yes, I agree. But it just boils down to a sound business decision from AMI.  If the PDI fails, it is more money in their pocket.  So why wouldn't they punish those who think otherwise?  It just so happens that this parallels the IFBB wishes as well.  I am a Bodybuilding fan and the best of the best will be in the IFBB, and that is what I want to pay to see, so I support them. 
The PDI has nothing to offer, damn most of the people on stage wouldn't even make the top ranks of NABBA, WABBA, NPC or whatever.  If the arrogance of the PDIdiots tuned it down and stopped calling it a pro league I might even give them a closer look but outside of a small handful, nobody on that stage was PRO caliber.

Agreed.

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2006, 08:15:54 PM »
Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2006, 08:30:17 PM »
Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...
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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #65 on: October 01, 2006, 09:01:00 PM »
Of course the IFBB is worried thats why they talk shit about the PDI. I can see some pros coming over to the PDI once they dont get the placing they want/deserve. I didn't hear the speech but someone had to tell Jay to say that shit, otherwise why would he?

BTW Lee, I  just purchased your "It's not Revenge" DVD.

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #66 on: October 01, 2006, 11:29:00 PM »
Did Manion write Jays speech about the IFBB being the only place to compete.The guy wins hi first O and he thinks of saying stuff like that huh.Even Raymond from muscletime had his press pass pulled for covering the PDI show.Samir didn't get his free tickets Robin Chang was told not to give them to him as he is suing weider....not to mention all the other crap the ifbb was saying all weekend.Boy and they are not worried....Then let it go have your shows the PDI will have theres no big deal...carry on...

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2006, 01:28:46 AM »
There is no conspiracy to speak of regarding Raymond having his press pass revoked for covering the PDI.  That is plain and simple factual monopolistic bullshit.

I can't believe these IFBB morons stating they (the IFBB) are not worried about the PDI or are doing things to either stop the progress or advancement of the PDI.  Are you really that stupid and blind or are you just doing it to score points.  The PDI is on their mind everyday.  Manion is shitting.  You don't think he reads (or someone reads to him) what people say.  If the PDI wasn't a potential problem to the IFBB then they would ignore anything they did.  But they don't, they pull press passes, have an IFBB idiot show up to the NOC, tell people what questions to ask at a press conference.  Face it guys the IFBB is full with a bunch of pussies and in the end they will lose.  So far they have done nothing but show their true colors and have lost allot of fans.  ANd in the future they will lose allot of current pros and potential pros. 

And Melvin stay out of a discussion that you have no idea what you are talking about.  You have proven you are full ofshit and basically waste bandwidth.

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2006, 01:37:35 AM »
Hey, Keith, I enjoy Goodrum's contributions. I am not saying he has status here but he isn't afraid to speak his mind which is what you are doing.

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Re: Jays Speech
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2006, 02:41:14 PM »
Exactly.  Proof of the IFBB being worried about the PDI is also why they need to ban speech about the PDI in press.  Is this the free market or a socialist commune?  ::)

Fucking idiots.  Do you think we wouldn't have that figured out?

IFBB stooges: please stop insulting my intelligence.  It's much greater than yours.

PS - my review for Lee's DVD is up here:
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I read it, that's what made me decide to get it.